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9/11, Iraq, Pnac - All Roads Lead To Israel

 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:33 am    Post subject: 9/11, Iraq, Pnac - All Roads Lead To Israel Reply with quote

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Article:- http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=170 06&hl=

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What really happened on 911? Over 82% of Americans according to polls conducted by CNN believe that the official story of 911 is false and that the government is part of a cover up. There seem to be four main 911 theories, one form the main stream press and the 911 commission and others from researchers who bothered to look at things like physical evidence, the paper trail, and the money trail. I have a fifth theory which unifies the war in Iraq with the cabal that planned 911. The 4 theories briefly go as follows.Some "911 was an inside job" camps like to lay out 4 scenarios. Briefly they go as follows.


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911 was the Mossad. But that is not an Israeli intelligence agency per say it is a terrorist agency for the military industrial complex which feeds off of the hatred of the bigots and useful idiots concentrated in Israel. The US and Israel are not really different countries in a way. The US and Israeli agencies and their Neocon governments work for their own interests and those interests are guided by a racist, political ideology mixed up with a fascist version of a religion and Straussian philosophy. There is a total disconnect between the people of America (the sane ones) and the government. US foreign policy works for Likud Israeli interests first second and third. This is because the Zionists and MIC have overlapping financial interests. But most of all the press is Zionist. There is no war greater right now than the information war. Nothing would fix things faster than taking back the media or totally discrediting the corrupt lying fear mongering war cheerleaders we have now.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But for people like you Black Cat all roads lead to Israel on any issue. It would only be news if you found something israel was NOT to blame for.

JFK, 9/11, Economic crisis, Iraq, 7/7, any future war on Iran - all to be blamed on Israel or the Jews.

This is not just wrong and reactionary. The safety valve this loopey anti-semitism provides real criminals (particularly in the Arab world) is immense.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you shouldn't need me to explain the difference between the government of Israel and the pro-Isreali lobby in the US (PNAC, AIPAC) and people who are jewish.

Surely you are not suggesting that all critics of Israel are anti-semitic or that the Israeli state does not warrant criticism?

Surely you can not be unaware of the evidence that links Israel to 9/11, Iraq and PNAC? I don't think JFK or economic collapses were mentioned.

Now I certainly don't believe Israel or zionism is the be-all-and-end-all of the global 'conspiracy' and recognise the role of Arab governments such Saudi, Pakistan, etc. play, but nothing black cat has written here is anti-semitic unless you define anti-semite = critic of Israel

As Ryan (the author Black Cat cites) says

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Understand that Israel is not Jewish people OK please get that through your warped heads.
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This is not some illuminati, it is not the Catholic Church, there was no missile hitting the pentagon, it is not Jews in general or America in general, it is not just "THE government," it is definitely not lasers from space or human morphing lizards.


I noticed on your blog that Heidi claims Ian Crane/Totnes group discussed plans to screen an 'anti-semitic' film. I would find that very surprising. Does NFB have any evidence to support this slur? If so I would like to see it.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulStott wrote:
The safety valve this loopey anti-semitism provides real criminals (particularly in the Arab world) is immense.

Arabs are Semites too so your selection of "criminals - particularly in the Arab world" makes you clearly anti-Semitic. The suggestion that the criminals in the Arab world are "real" implies those in the Israeli world are imagined and further reveals your prejudice against Arabs. My criticism is of the state of Israel and their influence over the USA but I expect you automatically to play the "anti-Semitism" card at every opportunity. It saves you having to address the massive amount of evidence which points to Israel and its supporters implicated in the events leading up to 9/11. Which part of
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911 was an inside job which was part of a larger plan for perpetual war hatched in Israel. Understand that Israel is not Jewish people OK please get that through your warped heads.
do you not understand or did you not bother to read the article to which you are responding?

Your sloppy and unsubstantiated generalisation that "for people like you Black Cat all roads lead to Israel on any issue" is a feeble attempt at smearing me without addressing any issue at all. At least my attack on Israel and its supporters is based on evidence unlike your attack on Arabs which has none, unless Palestinians defending themselves from Israeli murderers upsets your sense of fairness.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackcat wrote:
PaulStott wrote:
The safety valve this loopey anti-semitism provides real criminals (particularly in the Arab world) is immense.

Arabs are Semites too .


And the Ashkenazi aren't. Simple fact.

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