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 Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Clear Evidence of Video Fakery on 9.11 - Chopper 5 |
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This had already been dealt with and shown up for the junk science it is by a professional video technician, not a pretend wannabee like Arse Baker.
http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/h/NPTrebuttal.pdf
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And what is your factual response to this material ? That the Chopper 5 footage, broadcast 'live' on television, is a composite, a fake ?
Clock still ticking.
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| Indubitably wrote: | | And what is your factual response to this material ? That the Chopper 5 footage, broadcast 'live' on television, is a composite, a fake ? |
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Chek, instead of proving yourself each day to be a struggling agent of disinformation, why not answer the questions ?
What evidence can you present to counter claims of those who HAVE analysed this material that these broadcasts made 'live' on television of the Twin Towers are faked ?
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Evidence has been presented that only every second frame of video material from Chopper 5 shows smoke rising from the North Tower - this, seconds before a 'plane' appears to hit the South Tower !!!!
What response is offered to such evidence from those who deny that here, in this material, (broadcast 'live' on 9.11.2001 to television viewers) is clear, indisputable evidence of media fakery ?
Eric Salter's article, which I have read in detail and which i recommend everyone to read does NOT even refer to this issue of every second frame showing smoke rising from the North Tower.
Is it not time that we stopped lying to people ? Let's deal with the actual issue. This footage is faked. It shows only every second video frame with smoke rising from the North Tower. Any reply to this FACT ?
The silence is deafening.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Indubitably wrote: | Evidence has been presented that only every second frame of video material from Chopper 5 shows smoke rising from the North Tower - this, seconds before a 'plane' appears to hit the South Tower !!!!
What response is offered to such evidence from those who deny that here, in this material, (broadcast 'live' on 9.11.2001 to television viewers) is clear, indisputable evidence of media fakery ?
The silence is deafening. |
It is only deafening to those without the wherewithall to read the .pdf referenced several posts ago. If you need help with that just ask.
But a hint might be to not rely on pretend 'technicians' for your pretend 'evidence'.
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Yes, we need help from you. Thanks for the offer.
Where does Eric Salter's article address the subject of SMOKE RISING FROM THE NORTH TOWER ONLY EVERY SECOND FRAME AT THE TIME WHEN THE 'PLANE' IS APPROACHING THE SOUTH TOWER ?????????
I've read the article. But it isn't discussed there.
Perhaps you can show us where this subject is discussed in that article by Salter ?
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| Indubitably wrote: | Yes, we need help from you. Thanks for the offer.
Where does Eric Salter's article address the subject of SMOKE RISING FROM THE NORTH TOWER ONLY EVERY SECOND FRAME AT THE TIME WHEN THE 'PLANE' IS APPROACHING THE SOUTH TOWER ?????????
I've read the article. But it isn't discussed there.
Perhaps you can show us where this subject is discussed in that article by Salter ? |
Your pretend 'technicians' have no doubt all the required information to explain that "the most important factor in stabilizing or tracking
motion is the clarity of detail of the tracked object".
http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/h/NPTrebuttal.pdf
The smoke pixels, inherently lacking detail and moving more slowly, do not change sufficiently fast enough to warrant updating on each frame.
You can test this yourself - you're all Virtualdub virtuosos aren't you? - by resampling a piece of video at half or quarter resolution (depending on what you start with) to witness the moving parts of the image being 'haloed' as they update, while the still parts of the image do not.
As I said earlier - on one of those threads you are still avoiding -
"the no planes issue is what defines whether a site is interested in moving people politically or just being a conspiraloon's hobby site where amatuers prod and tweak away at technical processes they don't understand and draw subsequently wild and ludicrous conclusions from.
Now I've answered your question - please answer these:
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11608
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11695
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11664
and I will continue to request ad infinitum that you deal with these until you do.
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| But that's not true. Frame by frame analysis of the video material from Chopper 5 is freely available as I've already shown. It shows every second frame shows smoke rising. It shows an impossible situation in practice if the video is genuine. An 8 frame sequence is provided for you to see. If you don't want to look at it, fine. But don't spread the lie that such things are not established facts. Don't tell us Salter answered them when, in fact, he did not do so. In fact, as we see, Salter did not even tackle these facts. Did he ?
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: A clue here? |
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Those are excellent articles!
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