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Louise Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: Gordon Brown sells out Britain to the EU. |
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So Gordon Brown Has signed an agreement the other day that Westminster will discuss and ratify the sixth EU treaty, whitch will effectively be the end of the United Kingdom.
There will be no more counties or local councils, instead the former UK will be divided up into european regions with a couple of people from each region reporting directly to brussels.
And ultimately no more national goverment.
I thought that the people of the UK were going to have a referendum on this issue.
Ireland is going to have one.
France and Holland have already had one and rejected the treaty.
We were promised one by Gordon Brown but he says that this new treaty, because it has the so called red lines that protect the national intrest, he has decided that the UK does not need a referendum.
Does anyone belive what he says?, because i don't, i feel that it's just the same treaty just slightly re-worded.
This Treaty has (as i've said before) has been rejected by France and Holland by the people, so there must be something about it that isn't very good for the people.
I don't think we can even get a look at it and read it unless anyone knows if you can call it up on the internet.
But I do know that it transfers a lot (if not all) of power from the UK to Brussels.
Once again a prime minister that is supposed to serve and listern to the people of the UK is ignoring them and seems to only be servig his own intrests and that of other politicians and to hell with the opinion of the people of this country.
I also thought long ago that the purpose of the UK getting involved with the EU was purely for trade only and NOT for britain to become part of a EU superstate, in fact i belive we were promised by politicans that it was not ultimately about becoming part of an EU superstate.
THE LYING BA*****S!!!!!!!.
My dad thinks that Gordon Brown is a liar, a traitor and should be ranked up with people like Lord Haw-Haw.
I personally think that the people of this country should still have a referendum on this treaty as this effects all of us in a very big way.
But no we are not allowed to have a say are we.
Also look up the following: COMMON PURPOSE.
This organisation uses public money covertly to train selected people to be EU leaders.
They must be loyal to all the values and princibles of the EU or they get harassed and bullied. _________________ One sure way for evil to prevail, is for the good to do nothing. |
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Leiff Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Louise wrote: | i feel that it's just the same treaty just slightly re-worded. |
Open Europe comparative text
http://www.openeurope.org.uk/research/comparative.pdf
You're not the only one. _________________ "Democracy is sustained not by public trust but by public scepticism"
George Monbiot |
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Louise Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the link Leiff.
Is this document the complete info on this recent treaty?.
I know quite a few people who will be quite intrested to view this document.
I think that the UK may lose it's flag (the union jack and the cross of St. George) the national anthem etc., everything that makes this country individual.
We will also be policed by something called europol i belive. _________________ One sure way for evil to prevail, is for the good to do nothing. |
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Leiff Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Louise wrote: | Is this document the complete info on this recent treaty?. |
That document is pre Lisbon summit, so won't include whatever amendments were settled on there. From what I gather Mr Broon didn't change anything from our point of view as it had all been agreed beforehand.
Louise wrote: | I think that the UK may lose it's flag (the union jack and the cross of St. George) the national anthem etc., everything that makes this country individual. |
As far as I know, the flag and anthem were shelved as these were considered the 'constitutional' features of the EU constitution and therefore had to go.
Louise wrote: | We will also be policed by something called europol i belive. |
Justice and Home Affairs are two of the 'red lines' that have been so 'skillfully defended' by Mr Broon apparently. But they are not likely to stand the test of time and should be considered to be more of a phase in of EU priority in these areas. So yes Europol is on the way, just not yet... _________________ "Democracy is sustained not by public trust but by public scepticism"
George Monbiot |
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Louise Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just a thought, when England stops becoming England and the EU takes over, what will happen to the england sports teams, will they all be dispanded?.
You know i was thinking of that song rule britannia, and how it says britains will never be slaves.
Oh really?, well i think that remains to be seen i think. _________________ One sure way for evil to prevail, is for the good to do nothing. |
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