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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Why was Fred banned from here, but all the trolls weren't? Reply with quote

What did Fred do that trolls like John White, check, gruts, Dogsmilk, TmcMistress, etc haven't done to get himself banned?

Fred was an excellent 9/11 researcher. To bad people like him get banned while trolls, who do little/zero research, get to stay and go hog wild.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Why was Fred banned from here, but all the trolls weren' Reply with quote

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What did Fred do that trolls like John White, check, gruts, Dogsmilk, TmcMistress, etc haven't done to get himself banned?

Fred was an excellent 9/11 researcher. To bad people like him get banned while trolls, who do little/zero research, get to stay and go hog wild.


Fred is a mentally unstable liar - a personality type you seem to have an affinity with and tend to attract to any site you're involved closely with.
Why is that?

Incidentally - how do you define 'troll'?

It seems to be anyone who doesn't unquestiononingly swallow whatever inane thought passes through your unfiltering head.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are trolls allowed to lie/attack/slander all day, everyday, here at this forum? Don't the admin care?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why are trolls allowed to lie/attack/slander all day, everyday, here at this forum? Don't the admin care?


A simple misunderstanding I think.
This is a 911 Truth site.
You're looking for a 911 Bullsh!t site.
I hope you're very happy together.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are trolls allowed to lie/attack/slander all day, everyday, here at this forum? Don't the admin care?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indubitably wrote:
Why are trolls allowed to lie/attack/slander all day, everyday, here at this forum? Don't the admin care?

Great question, why don't the admin care?!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no, stop it, its too funny! Laughing

Sockpupetry like that should really be in some kind of study of net sychophancy

We're ready to get back to debating the issues as soon as you can deal with No Planes Theory lying in tatters Killtown:

This farce your playing is your desperation

What else have you got?

I mean its not as if your going to go

"God I'm so sorry for misleading people and wasting everyone's time, what was I thinking?" is it?

Great if you did, and obviously, be good for you getting back towards some sort of mental stability, but its not very likely

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel so included! Meeting will be at 5:30 under the usual bridge, folks... ^_^
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are trolls allowed to lie/attack/slander all day, everyday, here at this forum? Don't the admin care?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my left bollock wrote:
woof woof, master


Why are echo chambers allowed in here?

Don't the mods care?

Have they never heard any decent reverb?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fred's posts clearly broke the rules. He was repeatedly warned

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/search.php?search_author=Fred

The people you accuse of trolling have accused you of lying. They presented evidence why they believe this. Yes they are mildly abusive, but no more so than you are in return. To be frank given the aggressive and abusive manner of many 'researchers' including Fred to their critics, it is highly hypocritical to whinge on about relatively mild terms such as liar and nutter. Personally I wouldn't use these terms but they are no worse than the terms shill and troll you use

Provided these exchanges don't deteriorate to the level Fred took them, I'm turning a blind eye to them, just as I am currently turning a blind eye to your accusations of shill and troll.

I've offered previously to set up an area on the board where your critics would not be allowed to post, to allow you room to present your case/evidence to the world without their distraction.

Beyond that if you don't like it don't post here.

Now enough said. Don't start any more threads on this same tedious theme. I've said what needs to be said.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian neal wrote:
Fred's posts clearly broke the rules. He was repeatedly warned

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/search.php?search_author=Fred

The people you accuse of trolling have accused you of lying. They presented evidence why they believe this. Yes they are mildly abusive, but no more so than you are in return. To be frank given the aggressive and abusive manner of many 'researchers' including Fred to their critics, it is highly hypocritical to whinge on about relatively mild terms such as liar and nutter. Personally I wouldn't use these terms but they are no worse than the terms shill and troll you use

Provided these exchanges don't deteriorate to the level Fred took them, I'm turning a blind eye to them, just as I am currently turning a blind eye to your accusations of shill and troll.

I've offered previously to set up an area on the board where your critics would not be allowed to post, to allow you room to present your case/evidence to the world without their distraction.

Beyond that if you don't like it don't post here.

Now enough said. Don't start any more threads on this same tedious theme. I've said what needs to be said.

Looks like Fred's only wrongdoing was fighting back against the trolls.

They accuse me of lying out of their desperate attempts to discredit me. I told them I called a tail a "wing" by mistake, yet, in their desperate attempts, they say they don't believe me and claim I was lying on purpose (yeah, like I'd really lie and discredit myself by purposely calling a tail a "wing" Rolling Eyes ).

I call them "trolls" because they fit the definition of one. The only definition I fit about the tail/wing thing would be a "mistaker".

I'll take you up on creating us a new section free of trolls, however I'd like to simply called it the "Troll-Free Section" because it's not about NPT, or any specific theory, it's about not having trolls pollute the debate with their immature behavior/attacks/smears/lies/etc.

Also, if you create this troll-free section, I'd like for you to show people you are nothing of a shill by re-instating everyone here who was banned because they were fighting back against the trolls, including Fred and if you do this, make it a general rule in that section that there is to be no personal attacks, or attacks against one's theory. That rule will apply to anyone allowed in that section, including us.

Deal?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I think giving Killtown his own private park where nobody is allowed to say things he doesn't like takes the biscuit somewhat, particularly if it means people who were previously banned for breaking the rather liberal rules of this forum get a pass back in just cos they're his mate. Not allowing attacks on a theory rather undermines the whole concept of debate and can only lead to a back-slapping club which Killtown already has in the form of 911Movement. In fact, why not make it so the whole forum is based on enforced mandatory polite agreement? If it happens, I would suggest it is called "Killtown's I'm always right zone (no disagreement allowed)" or "Church of Killtown the Saviour (remove shoes on entry and do not gaze directly upon Him)" or even "Twathouse".
Can I have a section where I can say whatever I like without anyone being allowed to say I'm wrong? I can be incredibly rude about Holocaust Denial without having to back up my arguments (HD...ring any bells Mr K?)
I think the idea Ian has to prove he isn't a shill by bowing before the mighty lord Killtown displays an arrogance both disturbing and pathetic in equal measure. One can only wonder how long it will be before Killtown decides he's the Messiah and arranges a showdown with David Shayler.

If Mr Killtown does acknowledge his 'mistake', perhaps he would be good enough to discuss this on 911 Movement, as it is likely his drones will be excitedly posting the image around the internet making fools of themselves.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:

Also, if you create this troll-free section, I'd like for you to show people you are nothing of a shill by re-instating everyone here who was banned because they were fighting back against the trolls, including Fred and if you do this, make it a general rule in that section that there is to be no personal attacks, or attacks against one's theory. That rule will apply to anyone allowed in that section, including us.

Deal?


Deal?

Deal??
You must be ferkin joking aren't you? (a ferkin is an olde english measure, just in case your wondering).

Why would any forum in the world allow the "researchers" brand of speciality pap to have a free pass - especially when you already have such a cosy environment of your own already?

What you are brazenly demanding is not how we do things, either here in this country or in this forum, and expecting Ian to appease your ridiculous demands only exposes your totalitarian demeanour and the too high a cost of whatever quest it is you are on.

No Killtown, we'll bloody fight you on the beaches first.

The question is, why do you want in here so badly?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1795
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The question is, why do you want in here so badly?


thats a very good question, considering he thinks everyone here are trolls, and that the site is run by shills. (well the site run by shills part only counts if mods don't give into killtowns BLACKMAIL, you know, "this site is run by shills, unless you do this, this and this, you must do this or else you are shills")
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogsmilk wrote:
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1795


That little exchange is actually quite disturbing on so many levels, I wonder if Ian actually has a clue as to what agenda is being served by this little plot.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
Why are trolls allowed to lie/attack/slander all day, everyday, here at this forum? Don't the admin care?


I can only speak for myself, but I will mostly only intervene (with the odd acception) if PM'd by a user, which is becoming quiet rare these days, so I assume there's less trouble makers on the forum.

In my experience only people who repeatedly fail to treat others with common decency and respect have been banned.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick Meaney wrote:
1) so I assume there's less trouble makers on the forum.

2) In my experience only people who repeatedly fail to treat others with common decency and respect have been banned.

1) the exact opposite is true.

2) See #1.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogsmilk wrote:
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=1795

do you think killtown is aware that prole art threat is the same poster as his faithful left bollock?

prole art threat AKA killtown's left bollock wrote:
Hey Killtown!

Ian Neal has offered NPT evidence to be demonstrated in it's own little yard within the 9/11 British Truth forum which will not permit any responses fron dirty critics/shills like Chek, Gruts and John c*** White. You MUST take him up on this offer.

This way we can simultaneously demonstrate NPT AND rub those * aforementioned shills noses in it.

Whaddya say, Champ?

Ian - can you really not see where this is leading?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you think killtown is aware that prole art threat is the same poster as his faithful left bollock?


Of course he does. His 'Modern Prometheus' was stiched together from bits of nonsensical arguments dumped in old forums and activated by leaving a laptop out in a lightning storm. After learning NPT by lurking around studying others, all he really craves is the love of his master.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just thought I'd ask because I know you've got to be really careful about what you say around here.... Smile

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I had to laugh, but I pity him really....
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
Also, if you create this troll-free section, I'd like for you to show people you are nothing of a shill by re-instating everyone here who was banned because they were fighting back against the trolls, including Fred and if you do this, make it a general rule in that section that there is to be no personal attacks, or attacks against one's theory. That rule will apply to anyone allowed in that section, including us.


Not sure about the name but a section moderated by someone sympathetic to NPTs sounds reasonable enough but as I say elsewhere I'm looking to hand over responsibility to others (at first on a probationary basis) so it may need to be negotiated with new management. I certainly think temporary suspensions rather than out right bans are appropriate.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Killtown wrote:
Also, if you create this troll-free section, I'd like for you to show people you are nothing of a shill by re-instating everyone here who was banned because they were fighting back against the trolls, including Fred and if you do this, make it a general rule in that section that there is to be no personal attacks, or attacks against one's theory. That rule will apply to anyone allowed in that section, including us.


Not sure about the name but a section moderated by someone sympathetic to NPTs sounds reasonable enough but as I say elsewhere I'm looking to hand over responsibility to others (at first on a probationary basis) so it may need to be negotiated with new management. I certainly think temporary suspensions rather than out right bans are appropriate.


So if I understand you correctly Ian, proven lies (and this isn't an uninformed opinion, but the sober judgement after close examination) such as the September Clueless videos - the same as promoted by Andrew Johnson, Killtown et al - with their simplistic appeal to a certain less discerning demographic, will be allowed to be propagated with impunity?

And this is a supposed to be good thing?

A desire for fairness is one thing, but aiding and abetting slickly produced, truth-free, intellectually crude propaganda to whatever end is no solution at all.
It's merely a temporary appeasement until the next demand.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian neal wrote:
Not sure about the name but a section moderated by someone sympathetic to NPTs sounds reasonable enough but as I say elsewhere I'm looking to hand over responsibility to others (at first on a probationary basis) so it may need to be negotiated with new management. I certainly think temporary suspensions rather than out right bans are appropriate.

Ian, you are still not getting it. My complaints have NOTHING to do with not being about to discuss NPT or any other theory. It's about try to debate on this forum will having to put up with all the trolls here like gruts, check, white, etc who personally attack, smear, mock, ridicule and engage in other infantile behavior.

Why is this SO HARD for you to understand???

Anyways, let's finish discussing this in that trolls thread where I responded to your last comments:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=93325#93325

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ian neal wrote:
Not sure about the name but a section moderated by someone sympathetic to NPTs sounds reasonable enough but as I say elsewhere I'm looking to hand over responsibility to others (at first on a probationary basis) so it may need to be negotiated with new management. I certainly think temporary suspensions rather than out right bans are appropriate.

Ian, you are still not getting it. My complaints have NOTHING to do with not being about to discuss NPT or any other theory. It's about try to debate on this forum will having to put up with all the trolls here like gruts, check, white, etc who personally attack, smear, mock, ridicule and engage in other infantile behavior.

Why is this SO HARD for you to understand???

Anyways, let's finish discussing this in that trolls thread where I responded to your last comments:

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=93325#93325


As anyone who will have followed your antics for some time will have noted, you don't debate, Killtown.

You whine and wheedle, but you do not debate.

Message boards are just the medium you use for spreading your propaganda.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Excellent

Then you can get on with admiting September Clues, and by extension, your "work", is now in tatters, and pack in all the distratction activity: becuase it sure isnt distracting me

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