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Alex Jones, shill, loud-mouthed con-man. Dude spends 45 minutes of every hour hawking his latest video. It makes me sad that people still pay attention to him.
Although the whole 'Bohemian Grove' thing still gives me a laugh...
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| Did Alex peak when he predicted the 911 false flag attacks in such great detail on his show? He's very right wing (hates all government) on several fronts and is pro-gun ownership I understand, but at least he's not a hologram no-planer! |
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Yes, he is a capitalist. So what? Surely only braincuffed socialists would have a problem with that.
To disagree with Alexs views is understandable but the people who think he's a shill must be idiots or something.
Anyway it's good to see that we are turning the tide so much so that we have time to attack other people in the movement.
So Sheriton, you think only Police and Criminals should have guns?
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| If we don't get support from capitalists we'll never win the argument |
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Tim for Zeitgeist
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject: Tony tell us more about what you mean. |
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Tony please tell us more, i don't know enough about it. 
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| TonyGosling wrote: | | Alex's main problem is his refusal to engage with the problem of Zionism, the Jewish Right. If he breaks through that mental barrier his show'll be a whole lot better. |
Tony, he particularly avoids that area, knowing it will bring the ADL et al crashing down on him
It's a distinctly erected barrier to avoid anti-semitism jibes,and from what I see he's right to neglect that whole area
As you say "the Jewish right". Who is he to attack a particular religious grouping? The whole agenda involves manipulating particular religious/belief system groupings. It's all part of the trap
AJ is right, from his perspective, to avoid it
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Tim for Zeitgeist
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:37 am Post subject: Charge of antisematism is no excuse! |
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I have successfully challenged the Zionists and won on every front I did so. You may have to get into the gutter to really get to them but they can be had! I have little trouble with these fools. I use the truth to do this and often set traps for them.
Read my article from a while ago, you can also catch it at my blog at
http://www.11thday.org just click the picture and look for Zeitgeist.
You folks need an education so here is one.
8/1/07
By Tim for Zeitgeist
Clearing up the misconceptions of a Jewish Brother!
I have had enough of this Zionist bull nonsense haven’t you? You have been fed lies about us progressives, no we never support Hitler!. I support a state of Israel but not an empire of Israel. Empires are dead and have no place in a free world.
I have watched my people try to rub out the Palestinians instead of treating them like equals.
That isn’t liberal thinking that is cold blooded vicious Zionist thinking. No wonder people hate us.
Zionists don’t want an even playing field; they want to dominate everyone to cover the crimes they have committed on us all.
I am sick of having to explain things because of their inhuman attitude towards the rest of us.
You have been fed lies all your life by liars who want their secrets hidden and use you to forward their evil ends. They are the original sinners and want the rest of us to pay for their crimes. Brother you got to get off of this Zionist kick. When I say Zionist I don't mean just them I mean all these damnable organizations that have been using fear and coercion to control and enslave the world, you the so-called ruling Elite.
You have been brainwashed into this thinking and used as fodder to protect them not yourself.
Just answer me this! Just how is it that this state is constantly warring on its neighbors in the illusion that your neighbors could ever succeed in really harming you?
You have beaten the Palestinians till you are just kicking the corpse.
If Israel had been a lot better to their Arab neighbors and worked with them in the beginning I think none of the atrocities committed by our so called freedom fighters would have happened. They would not have been needed. If Israel didn’t attack its neighbors I doubt they would attack Israel. They don’t even have the power it takes to defeat it, Because of atrocities committed by Israel since its big wins on the battle field the pressure is kept up on its neighbors in order to cover for its crimes against humanity.
For God’s sake you kill Christians, Muslims other Jews who disagree with you and who knows who else. How damn stupid is that.
You corrupt governments because of the paranoia instilled in us by the true masters of all this.
In Spielberg’s movie Munich there was a conversation between the Mossad assassin and a Palestinian. The Mossad agent asked why don’t you give up the land, it is only sand? The reply was, “Because it is our land.” They were their first so why didn’t you negotiate with them.
After the liberation why didn’t you set down with them and come to terms that everyone could live with. We are supposed to be good at negotiating so why didn’t we?
The answer is because the Zionists had their own priorities and it had nothing to do with what was best for all.
If this had happened we would have been able to stem the tide of the Nazi influence over the Arabs. We threw away a golden opportunity and instead listened to these Zionist thugs who ran the insurgency. Many of us were in lock step with them even though they sold us out to the Nazis’.
Think of this also, since the Nazis’ were supported by the Zionists then doesn’t it follow that they were the ones putting pressure on the Jews to go their way. They were the ones who had the Nazis' influence the Arabs to attack Israel. They sold us out yet again.
The Zionists have run the show from the beginning and I will bet you didn’t even know that.
You were sold out by your masters even before you were born. No wonder all Jews are so paranoid, we have been working against our best interests to follow greedy fools instead of our consciences.
If anyone says I am wrong all I have to say is PROVE IT!
I would strongly suggest you check into just who you believe; you will find some pretty serious * that is bad about them.
You appear to be an intelligent person so you can find out the truth for yourself and not from only one source.
Tim for Zeitgeist http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
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| uselesseater wrote: | Yes, he is a capitalist. So what? Surely only braincuffed socialists would have a problem with that.
To disagree with Alexs views is understandable but the people who think he's a shill must be idiots or something. |
Being a capitalist is one thing (a dirty thing, IMO, but that's another discussion altogether). Being a mis-informative, hypocritical, homophobic gun-nutter who shelters himself from criticism to such a degree that he makes Rush Limbaugh look open and honest is entirely another.
He spends a ridiculous amount of time on each show hawking his newest products, or giving himself verbal fellatio. Every damn thing is a conspiracy to him, regardless of evidence, and, of course, whatever he's talking about will inevitably turn out to be the fault of anyone who is different from him. He is a profiteer, a shill, a complete and utter waste of time and space.
Oh, and lest we forget, he's also a big fan of Eric Rudolph. You know, the guy that was fond of bombing abortion clinics and Olympic stadiums. To paraphrase Bill Hicks, there's little more ironic in this world than pro-lifers murdering people.
But then, I forget. Anyone who disagrees with you is apparently "an idiot or something".
| Quote: | | Anyway it's good to see that we are turning the tide so much so that we have time to attack other people in the movement. |
Jones is about as "in the movement" as PETA is in animal rights, and just as destructive.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: Zionism |
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| Quote: | | Alex's main problem is his refusal to engage with the problem of Zionism, the Jewish Right. If he breaks through that mental barrier his show'll be a whole lot better. |
I think there's a lot of loose talk on Zionism, and we need to be very careful with our phraseology. Tony qualifies the expression with 'the Jewish Right', which I think is fair enough, but even so, I think we have a problem.
Whenever an 'ism' is put forward as a justification for seizing or maintaining power, I for one am extremely skeptical. Does the Queen believe in God? I haven't a clue, but I am quite sure that few people in the UK would afford themselves the luxury of declaring that they didn't believe in God if that meant the loss of power and untold fortunes.
I think we are talking here not about Zionists, but about people acting under the flag of Zionism. We must be clear on that.
To talk simply of Zionism will implicate many ordinary Jews who consider themselves Zionists, in that they don't see why Jews should not emigrate to Israel, and why in history Jews should not be free to buy property in Palestine if the local Arabs wanted to sell to them. But we're not talking about them, nor is it relevant whether or not we agree with their philosophy.
We're talking about a minority of people of Jewish descent who appear to have gained inordinate amounts of control in the US banking and political systems, and who operate under the flag of Zionism. They appear to be operating against their own people, the Jews, just as any tyrannical oligarchy does in any ethnic group.
In challenging this, we should be bringing the vast majority of the Jews with us, rather than laying ourselves open to spurious charges of antisemitism.
And it's not just those who operate under the flag of Zionism who seem to be implicated. Ever heard of George W Bush?
If I were Alex Jones - with his style and personality - I would steer clear of Zionism, too, until such a time that I could focus clearly on that one topic, and work through the complexity of it, and solve the problem of how on earth you present the issue to a mass audience without the message being misunderstood. |
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uselesseater
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| TmcMistress wrote: | | uselesseater wrote: | Yes, he is a capitalist. So what? Surely only braincuffed socialists would have a problem with that.
To disagree with Alexs views is understandable but the people who think he's a shill must be idiots or something. |
Being a capitalist is one thing (a dirty thing, IMO, but that's another discussion altogether). Being a mis-informative, hypocritical, homophobic gun-nutter who shelters himself from criticism to such a degree that he makes Rush Limbaugh look open and honest is entirely another.
He spends a ridiculous amount of time on each show hawking his newest products, or giving himself verbal fellatio. Every damn thing is a conspiracy to him, regardless of evidence, and, of course, whatever he's talking about will inevitably turn out to be the fault of anyone who is different from him. He is a profiteer, a shill, a complete and utter waste of time and space.
Oh, and lest we forget, he's also a big fan of Eric Rudolph. You know, the guy that was fond of bombing abortion clinics and Olympic stadiums. To paraphrase Bill Hicks, there's little more ironic in this world than pro-lifers murdering people.
But then, I forget. Anyone who disagrees with you is apparently "an idiot or something".
| Quote: | | Anyway it's good to see that we are turning the tide so much so that we have time to attack other people in the movement. |
Jones is about as "in the movement" as PETA is in animal rights, and just as destructive. |
See my earlier comment re:idiots.
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What fools you people are... why the hell are you even focusing on the messenger? The guy is making money... so * what!?
In fact if it were not for Alex, this message would not have reached half the people it has. If you are just going to bitch and gripe and try to cause contention your motives must be questioned.
I leave this forum for a few years, I come back and its still full of agents!
Guess I should have known, it is in the belly of the beast after all.
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| this forum is too much, if you ppl stopped attacking the likes of alex jones we might be more effective in the fight. sure alex is not a saint and he doesn't clam to be. It was alex jones that woke me up to 9/11 truth and who has alerted more people than AJ?? we need to stop in fighting and name calling because thats what the NWO want us to do. we are losing this fight badly, and i know longer think we can win it. |
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| I agree with Hazzard that labelling Alex Jones a shill merely because he side steps zionism and makes a modest living from his work is not helpful. But are you not falling for the same trap by saying this site is in the belly of the beast? Just because some users wish to engage in such discussions does not mean the site is not honest. Or would you rather such discussions were censored? |
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| ian neal wrote: | | I agree with Hazzard that labelling Alex Jones a shill merely because he side steps zionism and makes a modest living from his work is not helpful. But are you not falling for the same trap by saying this site is in the belly of the beast? Just because some users wish to engage in such discussions does not mean the site is not honest. Or would you rather such discussions were censored? |
If you heard him yesterday (18.10.07) furiously slagging the ADL and Zionists, screaming how he hates them, you might not say he "side-steps" Zionism. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| I very rarely listen. Presuming this is the case, even less reason to suggest he is a shill. |
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In his own words he says he doesn't focus on Zionism as, according to him Zionists wrote handbooks saying they would promote anti-semetism, thus strengthening the Zionist position.
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| Quote: | | Divide and rule, it's hardly new. |
Happens all the time - getting more prevalent the closer the awakening majority come to the Truth.
| Quote: | | As I've said before this user name should be banned |
It's an expression, is all. No-one would deliberately choose such a nym without making a stance. Perhaps this poster wishes to provoke antagonism automatically. Some are really that bored...
We had a 'guy' on our BBS a decade back who went by the nym 'KukMaiSok'. This led to some inevitable schoolboy ribaldry and much beard-stroking amongst the moderators. Turned out to be a bona-fide Korean woman polymath with (it seemed like!) a thousand different uni degrees in AI, Psychology et all...
Now, what was the topic again? Oh yes, shooting the messenger... Yawn...
I wonder how many gullibles have recently been put off reading Tarpley, too?
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| ian neal wrote: | | I agree with Hazzard that labelling Alex Jones a shill merely because he side steps zionism and makes a modest living from his work is not helpful. |
Yeesh. Does the fact that he labels anyone who criticizes him an anti-patriot not bother you at all? Or that anything and everything is a conspiracy to him, no matter how tenuous its connection to reality? It does me. Not to mention his being a massive homophobe and one of these loons who think the white christian male is just so oppressed in the US. 
Hazzard being a perfect example of this kind of thought. Anyone who doesn't like or agree with Alex Jones is an agent, apparently. Way to fight against the power structure group-think, guys, institute one of your own...
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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I used to think Alex Jones was genuine, however I can now see him for what he really is and have no doubts abouts what his agenda really is.
Here he is slagging off no planers.
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| Whenever I see the guy I hear the Dead Kennedys "Buy More Snake Oil" in my head.......... |
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| TmcMistress wrote: | | ian neal wrote: | | I agree with Hazzard that labelling Alex Jones a shill merely because he side steps zionism and makes a modest living from his work is not helpful. |
Yeesh. Does the fact that he labels anyone who criticizes him an anti-patriot not bother you at all? Or that anything and everything is a conspiracy to him, no matter how tenuous its connection to reality? It does me. Not to mention his being a massive homophobe and one of these loons who think the white christian male is just so oppressed in the US.
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Well if you want something well packaged and politiclaly correct i suggest watching the news.
If anything his negative points you have listed would point to him being genuine rather than some insider.
He must also be the most counterproductive shill ever concieved if it were true.
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| PaulStott wrote: | | Whenever I see the guy I hear the Dead Kennedys "Buy More Snake Oil" in my head.......... |
Dead Kennedys?
Are you sure you're not thinking of "Buy my snake oil" by Jello Biafra with Mojo Nixon?
Now there's a tune!
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Alex Jones has a big mouth and an even bigger ego - but I find him entertaining nevertheless. like most of us, sometimes he talks sense and sometimes he talks nonsense - and nobody's forcing you to watch/listen to him or buy any of his ever increasing range of products.
mind you, i'd quite like one of those berkey water filters.... |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| gruts wrote: | Alex Jones has a big mouth and an even bigger ego - but I find him entertaining nevertheless. like most of us, sometimes he talks sense and sometimes he talks nonsense - and nobody's forcing you to watch/listen to him or buy any of his ever increasing range of products.
mind you, i'd quite like one of those berkey water filters.... |
Me too. Some storeable food too, which you can't even get in the UK.
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