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And still another satellite picture of what happened to the mass of the tower as it was being destroyed. It rose, high in to the upper atmosphere.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: And One More Picture |
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| Roadrunner wrote: | | And still another satellite picture of what happened to the mass of the tower as it was being destroyed. It rose, high in to the upper atmosphere. |
SO??
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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So it didn't fall to Ground Zero.
Case Closed.
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| Roadrunner wrote: | | So it didn't fall to Ground Zero. Case Closed. |
What case closed, exactly? All that is seen is smoke rising and after all, there were fires at the WTC! Even if the pictures are showing smoke from collapse, they are in no way showing the cause!
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No, they are not showing the cause. You are right. They are showing the effects.
And it's by first starting with the effects that we are able, eventually, to arrive at the causes.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Roadrunner wrote: | No, they are not showing the cause. You are right. They are showing the effects.
And it's by first starting with the effects that we are able, eventually, to arrive at the causes. |
Depending of course, on what you want believe in the first place. The pictues show smoke rising, so what does that prove?? It is just like what they could see from the space station, before the towers collapsed!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I say again. The pictues show smoke rising, so what does that prove?
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Roadrunner
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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But you've just agreed (as we all know) that the rubble went in to the air and was dispersed for miles around. Those are your own words.
Want to withdraw them ?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Roadrunner wrote: | But you've just agreed (as we all know) that the rubble went in to the air and was dispersed for miles around. Those are your own words.
Want to withdraw them ? |
Not at all.
Sorry if you you don't 'get it.' Sorry if you can only use one side of your brain.
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Sorry if you can't even stand by your own words, given less than one hour ago right on this forum. Very strange, isn't it ?
Do you withdraw them ? The rubble went up in to the air and was dispersed for miles around.
Sure. 100% correct.
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| Roadrunner wrote: | But you've just agreed (as we all know) that the rubble went in to the air and was dispersed for miles around. Those are your own words.
Want to withdraw them ? |
Not at all.
Can't you read? As I said, you only use one side of your brain. Stop waisting our time.
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But these are your own words.
Are you wasting OUR time, perhaps ?
They ARE YOUR words, aren't they ? Given right here. Care to withdraw them - at the third time of asking ? Or will you stand by them ?
Up to you of course. But don't blame others. Everyone knows - as you say yourself.
Do you ?
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Most of the rubble did go in to the air and was dispersed around as everyone knows. The question is, what caused this to happen?
Some say powerful explosives were used but I gather that you are implying that that the only possible explanation can be DEW. Am I right?
And because of what you believe (which you have no solid evidence for), you argue against everyone else's theory which there is more evidence for and which is more realistic. When will it dawn on people? Sorry, but I'm afraid that you and several others, are way out of your depth.
Then what does your picture show? Smoke.
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I really must disagree.
Let's start at the beginning. You agree that -
Most of the rubble did go in to the air and was dispersed around as everyone knows. The question is, what caused this to happen?
How can explosives/controlled demolition account for most of the mass of this building going in to the air and being dispersed ?
Since most of the mass of this tower was turned in to small parts (e.g. turned in to dust) and was widely dispersed (i.e. not falling in pieces to Ground Zero) how can this be described as an act of 'controlled demolition' ? If it fell to ground in large pieces we cannot simultaneously argue that this rubble did go in the air and was dispersed.
You can't have it both ways, can you ?
p.s. How can the smoke from a few localised office fires be the cause of smoke rising in a vast plume kilometres in to the outer atmosphere ? That's ridiculous.
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| Roadrunner wrote: | I really must disagree.
Let's start at the beginning. You agree that -
Most of the rubble did go in to the air and was dispersed around as everyone knows. The question is, what caused this to happen?
How can explosives/controlled demolition account for most of the mass of this building going in to the air and being dispersed ?
Since most of the mass of this tower was turned in to small parts (e.g. turned in to dust) and was widely dispersed (i.e. not falling in pieces to Ground Zero) how can this be described as an act of 'controlled demolition' ? If it fell to ground in large pieces we cannot simultaneously argue that this rubble did go in the air and was dispersed.
You can't have it both ways, can you ?
p.s. How can the smoke from a few localised office fires be the cause of smoke rising in a vast plume kilometres in to the outer atmosphere ? That's ridiculous. |
Sorry but it is not as ridiculous as your theory. If you can't see the difference between smoke ascending and a city coverered in dust (which your proof pictures do not show, I do not know what to say to you but WHILE WE FUC*ING ARGUE THERE IS A WAR AGAINST HUMANITY GOING ON!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Roadrunner wrote: | I really must disagree.
Let's start at the beginning. You agree that -
Most of the rubble did go in to the air and was dispersed around as everyone knows. The question is, what caused this to happen?
How can explosives/controlled demolition account for most of the mass of this building going in to the air and being dispersed ?
Since most of the mass of this tower was turned in to small parts (e.g. turned in to dust) and was widely dispersed (i.e. not falling in pieces to Ground Zero) how can this be described as an act of 'controlled demolition' ? If it fell to ground in large pieces we cannot simultaneously argue that this rubble did go in the air and was dispersed.
You can't have it both ways, can you ?
p.s. How can the smoke from a few localised office fires be the cause of smoke rising in a vast plume kilometres in to the outer atmosphere ? That's ridiculous. |
So are you saying there was not a single explosive device planted in either tower?
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| KP50 wrote: | | Roadrunner wrote: | I really must disagree.
Let's start at the beginning. You agree that -
Most of the rubble did go in to the air and was dispersed around as everyone knows. The question is, what caused this to happen?
How can explosives/controlled demolition account for most of the mass of this building going in to the air and being dispersed ?
Since most of the mass of this tower was turned in to small parts (e.g. turned in to dust) and was widely dispersed (i.e. not falling in pieces to Ground Zero) how can this be described as an act of 'controlled demolition' ? If it fell to ground in large pieces we cannot simultaneously argue that this rubble did go in the air and was dispersed.
You can't have it both ways, can you ?
p.s. How can the smoke from a few localised office fires be the cause of smoke rising in a vast plume kilometres in to the outer atmosphere ? That's ridiculous. |
So are you saying there was not a single explosive device planted in either tower? |
I suspect that Roadrunner's views are not very different from those of our late colleague, Indubitably. Indubitably told us there were lots of explosives in the towers, those hidden behind false walls to blow plane-shaped holes in the perimeter walls and those to demolish the lower part of the buildings. He failed to mention it, but without a plane present there must surely also have been other explosives to blow a hole in the opposite side of the building, to give the effect of debris punching through, and throw some debris at least into the street on that side.
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I suspect that Roadrunner is Indubitably
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