Shoestring Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject: The Stand Down at Andrews Air Force Base on 9/11 |
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Here is my new blog entry, all about how the DC Air National Guard at Andrews Air Force Base was notified that the Secret Service wanted fighter jets launched over Washington, DC, shortly after the second WTC tower was hit, at 9:03 a.m. on 9/11. Yet the Secret Service's request for fighters was apparently ignored, and the first jet to launch from Andrews only did so more than an hour and a half after the second attack in New York. My original blog posting, with links to the source articles, is here:
http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2009/12/90-minute-stand-down-on-911- why-was.html
The 90-Minute Stand Down on 9/11: Why Was the Secret Service's Early Request for Fighter Jets Ignored?
Shortly after the second World Trade Center tower was hit, at 9:03 a.m. on September 11, 2001, an officer at Andrews Air Force Base, just outside Washington, DC, was notified that the Secret Service wanted fighter jets launched over the nation's capital. It was now obvious the U.S. was under terrorist attack, and Washington would have been an obvious potential target. And yet the Secret Service's request came to nothing.
No fighters had taken off from Andrews by 9:37 a.m., when the Pentagon was hit. Nor had any launched by the time Flight 93 apparently crashed in Pennsylvania, shortly after 10:00 a.m., while flying toward Washington. In fact, fighters did not launch from Andrews until over 90 minutes after the second attack in New York. The first fully armed fighters did not launch from there until more than two hours after that attack. So why was the Secret Service's early request for help not acted upon? Why did fighter jets only take off from this massive Air Force base to defend the capital well after the morning's attacks had ended?
SECRET SERVICE CALLS FAA HEADQUARTERS
The Secret Service agent who made the early request that fighter jets be launched appears to have been Nelson Garabito. Garabito was responsible for coordinating the president's movements, and was also the Secret Service's liaison to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). He was in the Secret Service Joint Operations Center (JOC) at the White House that morning. Just after Flight 175 crashed into the South Tower at 9:03 a.m., Garabito called Terry Van Steenbergen, his counterpart at the FAA, who was at the FAA headquarters in Washington. According to the 9/11 Commission, shortly into the call, Van Steenburgen told Garabito "that there were more planes unaccounted for--possibly hijacked--in addition to the two that had already crashed."
Possibly in response to this information, Garabito appears to have asked Van Steenbergen to arrange for fighters to be launched over Washington. Van Steenbergen asked three of his colleagues at the FAA to call various air bases to see if they could get fighters into the air. One of these colleagues, Karen Pontius, had previously worked at Andrews Air Force Base, so she made the call to the FAA air traffic control tower there. [1] Garabito would have been unable to call the tower himself, because, according to a 9/11 Commission memorandum, the Secret Service "did not have a phone line to the Andrews tower."
FAA HEADQUARTERS REQUESTS FIGHTERS
Pontius spoke to Steve Marra, an air traffic controller in the Andrews tower. Marra has recalled that Pontius "told him to launch F-16s to cap the airspace over Washington." He relayed this information to the District of Columbia Air National Guard (DCANG), which is based at Andrews, across the airfield from the control tower. [2] Marra appears to have done so when DCANG officer Major Daniel Caine phoned the tower and asked if any air traffic control measures were being implemented in response to the attacks. [3] Caine later recalled that the tower controller--i.e. Marra--told him "that they just received the scramble order." However, oddly, Caine told the 9/11 Commission that the Andrews tower "would not have been in the loop for any Secret Service orders to scramble aircraft." [4]
If the DC Air National Guard was notified of this early "scramble order," why was that order not acted upon? Pilots and others working for the DCANG at Andrews were already well aware of the crisis taking place. Upon learning of the second crash, someone at the unit reportedly yelled, "We're under a terrorist attack!" [5] And, seeing the television coverage of the burning WTC towers, an officer exclaimed, "Well, holy *, if this is a terrorist attack, we need to get something in the air!"
Furthermore, a request from the Secret Service should have carried considerable weight. According to author Lynn Spencer, "Given that the Secret Service provides protection to the president--and that the president, and the vice president when the president is not available, is the ultimate commander in chief of the military--the Secret Service also has certain authority over the military and, in this case, the DC Guard." [6]
CAINE CALLS HIS SECRET SERVICE CONTACT
After his call to the control tower, Daniel Caine called his contact at the Secret Service, Kenneth Beauchamp, who was at the White House JOC. Caine later told the 9/11 Commission that, on reflection, he believed it was his hearing that the tower had received the "scramble order" that prompted him to call Beauchamp. [7]
And yet Beauchamp supposedly contradicted the Secret Service's request for fighters. Even though it was obvious that the U.S. was under attack, and it should have been clear that Washington was a likely target for any further attacks, he said the Secret Service did not require assistance from the DCANG. Caine had asked: "Do you have any additional information? Are you guys going to need some help?" and Beauchamp replied, "No, but I'll call you back if that changes." [8]
Caine has said that during this call, which he described as "a very quick, confusing conversation," Beauchamp told him that "things were happening and he'd call me back." [9] However, Beauchamp did not call Caine back. [10] (Another Secret Service agent, though, did subsequently call Caine, and asked about getting fighters launched. [11])
According to Lieutenant Colonel Marc Sasseville, the acting operations group commander under the 113th Wing of the DCANG, at the time Caine spoke to Beauchamp, "we weren't thinking about defending anything. Our primary concern was what would happen to the air traffic system." [12] But when Brigadier General David Wherley, the commander of the DC Air National Guard, subsequently called the Secret Service JOC shortly after the Pentagon was hit and spoke to Beauchamp, Beauchamp implored him to launch jets to protect Washington. Beauchamp said: "We want you to put a CAP [combat air patrol] up over the city. We need some fighters now." [13]
DCANG PILOT 'STANDING BACK, WAITING'
Between the second WTC attack at 9:03 a.m. and the Pentagon attack at 9:37 a.m., the DCANG fighter pilots on duty at Andrews appear to have been waiting around and doing very little, when they should have been hurrying to get airborne.
One of those pilots, Captain Brandon Rasmussen, was promptly informed of the second crash in New York after it occurred, and immediately realized its implications. He recalled: "I think everybody knew that this was a coordinated attack that was happening. We had no idea who it was by, but it was definitely intentional when you get two airplanes hitting both towers." And yet, he said: "At that point, we didn't know what we could possibly do; that's New York City way up the road. So … like everybody else in America, we're just standing by and watching the news."
This is extraordinary! An Air Force base just 10 miles from Washington had learned that the nation was under attack. And yet the immediate response of its pilots was to stand around watching television!
Rasmussen said it was only after the news broke about the Pentagon being hit that "we knew that we were going to be sticking around home and being quite busy," and "the squadron leadership went into action." [14] DCANG commander David Wherley only headed across the base from his office to the fighter squadron building, to assist his unit's response to the attacks, after a woman at his office saw on television that the Pentagon had been hit and started shrieking. [15]
But even after the Pentagon attack, the DCANG pilots were not immediately told to prepare for takeoff. Rasmussen recalled that at that point, "I'm just kind of standing back, waiting for somebody to task me with something." He added, "I was just waiting at the ops desk for someone to say, 'Okay, we've been cleared to take off and go.'" [16]
FIRST JET LAUNCHES AT 10:38
The first DCANG jet to take off from Andrews Air Force Base was an F-16 that had just returned from a training mission over North Carolina. It had little fuel remaining, carried no missiles, and had only practice ammunition. It took off at 10:38 a.m., an hour after the attack on the Pentagon. [17] Two more F-16s took off at 10:42 a.m., but these were also armed with only practice ammunition and had no missiles. [18] At 11:11 a.m., Rasmussen and Daniel Caine took off in their F-16s, the first fighters to launch from Andrews armed with missiles as well as bullets. [19] By that time, the attacks were long over.
Rasmussen has expressed his and the other DCANG pilots' frustration at having to wait around before being allowed to get airborne. He said that when his unit finally received authorization for its jets to take off, "We were relieved to actually be given permission to go up and do something, instead of feeling totally helpless. I mean, we are fighter pilots, just like guard dogs chomping at the bit, ready to go." [20]
DCANG PROVIDES 'CAPABLE AND READY RESPONSE FORCES'
Although the DC Air National Guard was not part of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) air defense force, its mission at the time of the 9/11 attacks included providing "capable and ready response forces for the District of Columbia in the event of a natural disaster or civil emergency." Lieutenant Colonel Phil Thompson, the chief of safety for the DCANG, said, "We practice scrambles, we know how to do intercepts and other things." [21] The unit was in fact known as the "Capital Guardians," implying that it was responsible for protecting Washington, DC. [22]
The fact that, in spite of an early request for help from the Secret Service, it took the DC Air National Guard so long to put together a response to the attacks should be of concern to all Americans. The unit's disastrously slow emergency response needs to be thoroughly probed as part of a rigorous new investigation of the 9/11 attacks.
NOTES
[1] "USSS Statements and Interview Reports." 9/11 Commission, July 28, 2003; 9/11 Commission, The 9/11 Commission Report: Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (Authorized Edition). New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 2004, pp. 464-465; "Memorandum for the Record: Interview With Terry Van Steenbergen." 9/11 Commission, March 30, 2004.
[2] "Memorandum for the Record: Visit to Reagan National Airport Control Tower in Alexandria, VA and Andrews Air Force Base Control Tower." 9/11 Commission, July 28, 2003.
[3] Leslie Filson, Air War Over America: Sept. 11 Alters Face of Air Defense Mission. Tyndall Air Force Base, FL: 1st Air Force, 2003, p. 76.
[4] "Memorandum for the Record: Interview With Major John Daniel Caine, USAF, Supervisor of Flying at 121st Squadron, 113th Wing, Andrews Air Force Base on September 11, 2001." 9/11 Commission, March 8, 2004.
[5] Steve Vogel, "Flights of Vigilance Over the Capital." Washington Post, April 8, 2002.
[6] Lynn Spencer, Touching History: The Untold Story of the Drama That Unfolded in the Skies Over America on 9/11. New York: Free Press, 2008, p. 123.
[7] "Memorandum for the Record: Interview With Major John Daniel Caine."
[8] Lynn Spencer, Touching History, p. 124.
[9] Leslie Filson, Air War Over America, p. 76.
[10] "Memorandum for the Record: Interview With Major John Daniel Caine."
[11] Leslie Filson, Air War Over America, p. 78.
[12] William B. Scott, "F-16 Pilots Considered Ramming Flight 93." Aviation Week & Space Technology, September 9, 2002.
[13] "Memorandum for the Record: BG David Wherley, on September 11, 2001, Commander of the 113th Wing of the USAF Air National Guard, Andrews AFB." 9/11 Commission, August 28, 2003; Lynn Spencer, Touching History, pp. 184-185.
[14] Brandon Rasmussen, interviewed by Leslie Filson, September 18, 2003.
[15] Steve Vogel, "Flights of Vigilance Over the Capital"; Steve Vogel, The Pentagon: A History. New York: Random House, 2007, pp. 445-446; Lynn Spencer, Touching History, p. 184.
[16] Brandon Rasmussen, interviewed by Leslie Filson.
[17] Steve Vogel, "Flights of Vigilance Over the Capital"; William B. Scott, "F-16 Pilots Considered Ramming Flight 93"; "UA93 and Andrews Timeline." 9/11 Commission, n.d.
[18] William B. Scott, "F-16 Pilots Considered Ramming Flight 93"; Leslie Filson, Air War Over America, p. 82; Brandon Rasmussen, interviewed by Leslie Filson.
[19] Leslie Filson, Air War Over America, p. 84; "Relevant Andrews Transmissions." 9/11 Commission, February 17-18, 2004.
[20] Brandon Rasmussen, interviewed by Leslie Filson.
[21] "Andrews Air Force Base: Partner Units." DCMilitary.com, Summer 2001; William B. Scott, "F-16 Pilots Considered Ramming Flight 93"; Leslie Filson, Air War Over America, p. 76.
[22] Lynn Spencer, Touching History, p. 122. _________________ http://www.shoestring911.blogspot.com |
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scienceplease 2 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Thanks for the good words, scienceplease. |
No problem. All your reports are well researched and full of detail. The question is, why isn't anybody else asking these questions... (well, we think we know, right?)
Quote: | The C 130 that took off from Andrews AFB is really curious. Not only did its pilot reportedly witness the Pentagon attack, the plane also just happened to be flying near Shanksville, Pennsylvania, when Flight 93 supposedly crashed there.
For example, the New York Daily News reported, "The only military aircraft to get near hijacked airliners on Sept. 11 was an unarmed cargo plane whose crew saw American Flight 77 hit the Pentagon and later discovered the Pennsylvania crash site of United Flight 93."
There is more about this in the following article:
http://www.minnesotanationalguard.org/press_room/e-zine/articles/index .php?item=75 |
Ok, so the name of the pilot is Lt. Col. Steve O'Brien and not Lt. Col. Kenneth McClellan who is a Pentagon spokesman, as I mentioned above. Oops, sorry.
But the story presented above contains yet more puzzles!
Quote: | "Taking off from Andrews Air Force Base, the crew enjoyed the beautiful weather and admired the sun shining off the Potomac River." |
So no-one told the crew about the attacks on NYC, hijacked aircraft in the skies, including the one flying directly towards Washington DC!?
Quote: | It was Lt. Col. Steve O'Brien, the aircraft commander, who spotted an airplane at his 10 o'clock position. The aircraft was American Airlines Flight 77 that hijackers crashed into the Pentagon. "When I first saw the aircraft it was moving fast and that's when air traffic control called and asked, 'Do you see an airplane, can you tell me what kind it is,' and then asked for us to follow it," said O'Brien. "Never in 20 years of flying was I asked to follow a commercial airliner." |
Again this was the first they were told of the hijacked aircraft? Why was they asking about its identity? And this again implies O'Brien did identify it as a "commercial airliner" but doesn't actually state that it was!!?
Quote: | A few minutes later, O'Brien and his crew witnessed the nation under attack without realizing it. "We saw a fireball on the ground from jet fuel exploding and then saw the silhouette of the Pentagon through the haze of smoke," said O'Brien. |
A few minutes? Where is the detail of that few minutes? They followed the airliner for a few minutes without making any observations like airline livery, flying really low, through pylons and lamp-posts etc? How far away were they? What direction etc?
Quote: | The F-16 fighter jets were immediately mobilized to patrol and secure the area. |
And... here we find a new definition of the word "immediately"
Quote: | Starting the flight home, the crew tuned in a newscast using an old-style navigation radio. Although they were expecting to hear about an airplane crashing into the Pentagon, the first thing the crew heard was that a second airplane hit the World Trade Center. |
R-i-g-h-t so only after had they turned to fly home, did they hear about the other two air attacks?!!
And O'Brien doesn't appear that credible with statements like this:
Quote: | "I thought the smoke was from a farmer burning, or a junk yard," said O'Brien. "I was trying to be optimistic - the last thing anybody wants is to witness two commercial airliners crashing in the same day." |
Followed by:
Quote: | "The news report confirmed what I saw, I knew it was an airplane crash," said O'Brien. |
But he didn't see an air crash - just smoke rising! So... as usual with 9/11... just more questions... |
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scienceplease 2 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Suspicious C 130 |
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Name of E-3 pilot and contradiction to official story...
http://www.dcdave.com/article5/090924.htm
Quote: | The Case of Lt. Kuczynski
By Hugh Turley
It would take someone like the famous fictional Chinese-American detective, Charlie Chan, to unravel the story of Air Force Lieutenant Anthony Kuczynski. On the morning of September 11, 2001, Kuczynski’s E-3 Sentry was flying toward Pittsburgh with two F-16 fighter jets to intercept United Flight 93 according to the Aquin, the University of St. Thomas (MN) newspaper (April 12, 2002) and a companion article in the university’s alumni magazine.
“I was given direct orders to shoot down an airliner,” Kuczynski, a 1998 ROTC graduate of the university said. “It was one of those things where it was an absolutely surreal experience.” Kuczynski and his crew, deployed in defense of U.S. airspace, were about to intercept United 93 when it crashed.
The Boeing E-3 is the military’s airborne warning and control system called AWACS. It provides surveillance, command, control and communications to air defense forces. F-16 fighter jets under the E-3’s control would have done the actual shooting.
The Air Force’s official history of the day, “Air War Over America,” published by Tyndall Air Force Base, supports Kuczynski’s story. NEADS (North East Air Defense Sector) Commander Robert Marr reported that around 9:36, when it changed direction, while it is still flying west, United 93 was being monitored. NORAD Commander Major General Larry Arnold agreed, saying, “We watched the 93 track as it meandered around the Ohio-Pennsylvania area.”
Furthermore, Arnold, testified to the 9/11 Commission that he placed fighters over DC, “to put them in position in case United 93 were to head that way.”
On the first anniversary of the crash, Brigadier General Montague Winfield told ABC News that the Pentagon’s National Military Command Center “received the report from the FAA that Flight 93 had turned off its transponder, had turned, and was now heading towards Washington,” adding, “The decision was made to try to go intercept Flight 93.”
The 9/11 Commission Report, however, says flatly that the military was not aware of United 93 until it crashed. The official timeline has FAA headquarters knowing that United 93 was hijacked by 9:34, but not telling NEADS of the hijacking until 10:07, after the plane had crashed at 10:03 in Pennsylvania.
The Report clearly states, “…[n]o one from FAA headquarters requested military assistance regarding United 93. Nor did any manager at FAA headquarters pass any of the information it had about United 93 to the military.”
The first NEADS knew about it, according to the report, was at 10:07 a.m., when a call came in from the military liaison at Cleveland Center. “The NEADS air defenders never located the flight or followed it on their radar scopes,” it goes on. “The flight had already crashed by the time the military learned it was hijacked.”
Kuczynski’s E-3 Sentry aircraft was never mentioned in the official 9/11 Report. The Hyattsville Life and Times has been unable to reach Kuczynski for comment, but without Kuczynski’s story America’s true history is suppressed.
“Contradiction, please! Case still open like swinging gate,” Detective Chan might say in such an instance.
Hyattsville Life and Times, September 2009. |
Also covered here!
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=anthony_kuczynski_1 |
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