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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: How does an airliner slice through a steel building? Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy3hg4MMyqQ

Some people think the no planes are no brains..

I did intitially and was quite vociferous to some good people like masonfreeparty (but he gave it back too so lol)..

But watching the way the old footage fades to black when the planes struck..

The overpixelation as the plane crashes into the tower..

And the fact that in one clip the plane appears to have no nose, like a badly drawn computer simulation...

Why does the plane just slide into the steel building, why does the building also seem to reform itself after a so called plane collision..

There IS more to this than meets the eye...

Watch those vids by social services... I don't know the truth but it's a thought provoking way to spend the day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy3hg4MMyqQ


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look out for the 'nose in nose' out clip...

That just blew me away!

The plane enters the buiding travels through, and appears to leave nose first from the other side before a hasty fade to black and a missing frame..

There IS more to this than meets the eye.....

There are many many anomalies in the media version of events, sound and vision anomalies... it takes patience to go through them all...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG!

Part 3 has footage which shows a TV anchor and a live news feed which shows NO PLANE AT ALL.....

Just the explosion...

There are many incidents of news anchors not even mentioning a plane as the explosion occurs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5EXXyN_Us&feature=related
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edelweiss Pirate wrote:
There are many incidents of news anchors not even mentioning a plane as the explosion occurs...


Yet nowhere near as many incidents as there are of the gullible being led by the nose.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edel...welcome aboard mate!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

action and reaction


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ridge Hugger.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you gotta watch them ridges!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newton's 3rd Law should always play out in the 3D world.
They changed it

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edelweiss Pirate wrote:
There are many incidents of news anchors not even mentioning a plane as the explosion occurs...


Imagine you were a newscaster on the day looking at the same feed as everybody else. Why would you mention planes? You can't see behind the building or have access to some other magical view of what is going on out of sight.

If I saw the explosion from the same angle, how could I know it was caused by an aircraft - the approaching plane was obscured by the second tower?

They may equally have looked away from the screen at that very moment to pick up a cup, pick their nose, accept a piece of paper - they weren't expecting an explosion or a second plane.

You only perpetuate this daft stance because you aren't a brilliant guitarist.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Newton's 3rd Law should always play out in the 3D world.
They changed it


Unlikely. Far more likely is that people who quote it aren't taking all factors into account.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Imagine you were a newscaster on the day looking at the same feed as everybody else. Why would you mention planes? You can't see behind the building or have access to some other magical view of what is going on out of sight.


Plus, the idea that news anchors are concerned with anything more while on air than checking their autocue prompts, shuffling their notes and that their hair is straight is plainly daft.
They aren't there to watch tele all day (no pun intended).

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could see Theresa Renaud saying she saw another plane hit when she sees the explosion on the South Tower, because she had been told that the first explosion was a plane. "Oh my goodness, there's another one."
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They aren't there to watch tele all day (no pun intended).


For those that are, I just found this picture taken of me backstage at the European Bodybuilding Championships in Leningrad. I am the one with the early facial hair and should this confuse blackcat - the one on the right.

I seem to remember people saying my dress sense at the time resembled that of a presenter from Rainbow the children's television programme.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

telecasterisation wrote:
chek wrote:
They aren't there to watch tele all day (no pun intended).


For those that are, I just found this picture taken of me backstage at the European Bodybuilding Championships in Leningrad. I am the one with the early facial hair and should this confuse blackcat - the one on the right.

I seem to remember people saying my dress sense at the time resembled that of a presenter from Rainbow the children's television programme.



its hard to tell with you tele, is this a jokey post or is that really you? you look quite well built if it is, did you body build?

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i fully agree with you about smoking, its a filthy habit, i hope i did'nt offend you Laughing i imagine you to be the green cross code man, but one telling people not to smoke rather than cross roads saftly.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats better.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that is me, or rather 'was' as it is 1990. I was in my 'I'm free' period having left the police force I grew my hair and various assortments of facial hair arrangements.

I took up bodybuilding in 1973 which in its day, was way before it really became 'known'- the movie Pumping Iron changed things slightly but it still had an underground feel until around 1985. Progressive weight training has kept my arthritis under control according to a number of specialists, although training my lower body was extremely difficult as I couldn't squat only leg press on a recumbant machine due to the pain in my hips and knees. Arthritis also restricted me in certain other movements, but without it I believe I would have been crippled.

Strange you mention the Green Cross Man. I was at a bodybuilding show down in Southsea in about 1988 and as an official, a number of us went out for a meal afterwards. Opposite me at the table was Rich Gaspari who was the guest 'poser' from America and next to me was Dave Prowse who was the GCM and also played Darth Vader in the Star Wars movies.

During the course of the conversation, Rich started talking about how he got into bodybuilding and said it was because of Darth Vader - he wanted to be big like James Earl Jones. I asked what he meant as it was not James inside the costume only his voice being used? Rich looked surprised and said 'Who played Vader then?' - I pointed to the man next to me and said 'He did!'. It took a few minutes to convince him, but once he realised it wasn't a joke, Rich Gaspari went from this brash pumped up American, to what can only be described as a child who couldn't make eye contact with the very man who started his bodybuilding career.

I still bodybuild although not for 'size', simply to stay in shape, it being so easy to let the arthritis take over. I was eighteen stone in the photo, and weigh just sixteen now.

Interesting to see myself as 'Nicotine Man'.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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although training my lower body was extremely difficult as I couldn't squat


i did a bit of weight training when i was younger, not anymore though, although purely for fitness also, as i have not got the type of body frame to get big, im more athletic. i always use to encounter problems with the squats, going down was fine but on the way back up i found any wind i had was uncontrolable and would emerge on its own accord due to the straining, trying to lift the weight with people sniggering which makes you start to sniggering is near impossible.

i was suprised with the results when i did it, the extra strength it gave seemed to double the power i could shoot a ball, as football was my sport, untill i stupidly did no warm downs from a session and went to play football and tore my musle in my leg, then i decided to just stick to fitness that did'nt make your musles as stiff and would keep me agile as at the time 6 weeks without being able to play football drove me crazy and i missed out on a lot of games.

i slacked of on usual things like running and general training which is why i encounter that problem, as i opted for the weight training method at the time because once i got into it i found it addictive, strangly. but i soon realised i could'nt keep doing that then go and play sports which need agility.

anyway back to the topic.

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OMG!

Part 3 has footage which shows a TV anchor and a live news feed which shows NO PLANE AT ALL.....

Just the explosion...

There are many incidents of news anchors not even mentioning a plane as the explosion occurs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ5EXXyN_Us&feature=related


would this be the same shot that was filmed by the exact same helicopter which shows NO PLANE AT ALL! ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaTs_hSbI8Q

if you've noticed its better quailty than the one you like to use to claim "no plane", i wonder why? i'll guess because the poor quality shot dos'nt show what the object is as well or totally omits the plane making it appear no plane exsisted.

also the clip you like to use has a border hiding the plane coming into shot, again i wonder why?
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