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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: NATO-Lessening Presence in Afganistan for Kosovo Conflict? Reply with quote

A British general is in charge of 31,000 troops in Afghanistan has been criticizing Musharraf of Pakistan for not doing enough to fight the Taliban who are supposedly using Northern Pakistan as a base to launch attacks on NATO forces.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=3580

What is also illuminating is that a pro-independence party won the elections in Kosovo and asserts will declare independence on December 10th. This according to the Serbian govt will trigger a new war and new demands for seccession of Serbs in both Kosovo and Bosnia.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/nov2007/koso-n22.shtml

More and more fronts appear to be developing no wonder the head of the British Army was complaining this week.
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The Dismantling of Yugoslavia: A Study in INhumanitarian Intervention (and a Western Liberal-Left Intellectual and Moral Collapse)
Four Part Study by Edward S. Herman and David Peterson, Monthly Review

The breakup of Yugoslavia provided the fodder for what may have been the most misrepresented series of major events over the past twenty years. The journalistic and historical narratives that were imposed upon these wars have systematically distorted their nature, and were deeply prejudicial, downplaying the external factors that drove Yugoslavia’s breakup while selectively exaggerating and misrepresenting the internal factors.

Western Inflaming and Exploiting Yugoslav Civil Wars: The Tsunami of Lies
Perhaps no civil wars—and Yugoslavia suffered multiple civil wars across several theaters, at least two of which remain unresolved—have ever been harvested as cynically by foreign powers to establish legal precedents and new categories of international duties and norms. Nor have any other civil wars been turned into such a proving ground for the related notions of “humanitarian intervention” and the “right [or responsibility] to protect.” Yugoslavia’s conflicts were not so much mediated by foreign powers as they were inflamed and exploited by them to advance policy goals. The result was a tsunami of lies and misrepresentations in whose wake the world is still reeling.

Realpolitik Creates an Utterly Risible Caricature
From 1991 on, Yugoslavia and its successor states were exploited for ends as crass and as classically realpolitik as: (1) preserving the NATO military alliance despite the disintegration of the Soviet bloc—NATO’s putative reason for existence; (2) overthrowing the UN Charter’s historic commitments to non-interference and respect for the sovereign equality, territorial integrity, and political independence of all states in favor of the right of those more enlightened to interfere in the affairs of “failing” states, and even to wage wars against “rogue” states; (3) humiliating the European Union (EU) (formerly the European Community [EC]) over its inability to act decisively as a threat-making and militarily punitive force in its own backyard; (4) and of course dismantling the last economic and social holdout on the European continent yet to be integrated into the “Washington consensus.” The pursuit of these goals required that certain agents within Yugoslavia be cast in the role of the victims, and others as villains—the latter not just belligerents engaged in a civil war, but evil and murderous perpetrators of mass crimes which, in turn, would legitimate military intervention. At its extreme, in the work of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia (ICTY), Yugoslavia has been cast as one gigantic crime scene, with the wars in their totality to be explained as a “Joint Criminal Enterprise,” the alleged purpose of which was the expulsion of non-Serbs from territories the Serbs wanted all to themselves—an utterly risible caricature, as we show below, but taken seriously in Western commentary, much as Iraq’s “weapons of mass destruction” were to be taken early in the next decade.

The Freak Gallery of Western Propagandists and Warmongers
While the destruction of Yugoslavia had both internal and external causes, it is easy to overlook the external causes, despite their great importance, because Western political interests and ideology have masked them by focusing entirely on the alleged resurgence of Serb nationalism and drive for a “Greater Serbia” as the root of the collapse. In a widely read book that accompanied their BBC documentary, Laura Silber and Allan Little wrote that “under Milosevic’s stewardship” the Serbs were “the key secessionists,” as Milosevic sought the “creation of a new enlarged Serbian state, encompassing as much territory of Yugoslavia as possible,” his “politics of ethnic intolerance provok[ing] the other nations of Yugoslavia, convincing them that it was impossible to stay in the Yugoslav federation and propelling them down the road to independence.” In another widely read book, Misha Glenny wrote that “without question, it was Milosevic who had willfully allowed the genie [of violent, intolerant nationalism] out of the bottle, knowing that the consequences might be dramatic and even bloody.” Noel Malcolm found that by the late 1980s, “Two processes seemed fused into one: the gathering of power into Milosevic’s hands, and the gathering of the Serbs into a single political unit which could either dominate Yugoslavia or break it apart.” For Roy Gutman, the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina “was the third in a series of wars launched by Serbia....Serbia had harnessed the powerful military machine of the Yugoslav state to achieve the dream of its extreme nationalists: Greater Serbia.” For David Rieff, “even if [Croatia’s President Franjo] Tudjman had been an angel, Slobodan Milosevic would still have launched his war for Greater Serbia.”1

In a commentary in 2000, Tim Judah wrote that Milosevic was responsible for wars in “Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo: four wars since 1991 and [that] the result of these terrible conflicts, which began with the slogan ‘All Serbs in One State,’ is the cruelest irony.” Sometime journalist, sometime spokesperson for the ICTY at The Hague, Florence Hartmann, wrote that “Long before the war began, Slobodan Milosevic in Serbia and, following his example, Franjo Tudjman in Croatia, had turned their backs on the Yugoslav ideal of an ethnically mixed federal State and set about carving out their own ethnically homogeneous States. With Milosevic’s failure, in 1991, to take control of all of Yugoslavia, the die was cast for war.” After Milosevic’s death in 2006, the New York Times’s Marlise Simons wrote about the “incendiary nationalism” of the man who “rose and then clung to power by resurrecting old nationalist grudges and inciting dreams of a Greater Serbia...the prime engineer of wars that pitted his fellow Serbs against the Slovenes, the Croats, the Bosnians, the Albanians of Kosovo and ultimately the combined forces of the entire NATO alliance.” And at the more frenzied end of the media spectrum, Mark Danner traced the Balkan war dynamic to the Serbs’ “unquenchable blood lust,” while Ed Vulliamy asserted that “Once Milosevic had back-stabbed his way to power and had switched from communism to fascism, he and Mirjana set out to establish their dream of an ethnically pure Greater Serbia cleansed of Croats and ‘mongrel races’ such as Bosnia’s Muslims and Kosovo’s Albanians.”2

Ignorance, Gullibility and Purposeful Misrepresentations Unite to Create a Myth of Serb Villainy
This version of history—or ideology under the guise of history—fails at multiple levels. For one, it ignores the economic and financial turbulence within which Yugoslavia’s highly indebted, unevenly developed republics and autonomous regions found themselves in the years following Tito’s death in 1980, the aptly named “great reversal” during which the “standard of living whose previous growth had muted most regional grievances and legitimized Communist rule declined by fully one-quarter.”3 It also ignores the geopolitical context marked by the decline and eventual dissolution of the Soviet bloc, just as it ignores the German, Austrian, Vatican, EU, and eventual U.S. interest in the dismantlement of the socialist as well as federal dimensions of a unitary Yugoslav state, and the actions that brought about that result. Furthermore, it underrates the importance of Albanian (Kosovo), Slovene, Croat, Macedonian, Bosnian Muslim, Montenegrin, and even Hungarian (Vojvodina) nationalisms, and the competing interests of each of these groups as they sought sovereignty within, and later independence from, Yugoslavia. Perhaps most critical of all, it overrates the Serbs’ and Milosevic’s nationalism, gives these an unwarranted causal force, and transforms their expressed interest in preserving the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRY) and/or allowing Serbs to remain within a single unified successor state into wars of aggression whose goal was “Greater Serbia.”

Standard Narrative: Western Interventions Were Humanitarian in Purpose
The standard narrative also fails egregiously in claiming the Western interventions humanitarian in purpose and result. In that narrative those interventions came late but did their work well. We will show on the contrary that they came early, encouraged divisions and ethnic wars, and in the end had extremely damaging effects on the freedom, independence, and welfare of the inhabitants, although they served well the ends of Croatian, Bosnian Muslim, and Kosovo Albanian nationalists, as well as those of the United States and NATO. Furthermore, NATO’s 1999 bombing war against Yugoslavia, in violation of the UN Charter, built upon precedents set by NATO’s late summer 1995 bombing attacks on the Bosnian Serbs. More important, it provided additional precedents which advanced the same law-of-the-jungle lineage under the cover of “human rights.” It thus served as a precursor and a model for the subsequent U.S. regime’s attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, and the lies that enabled them.

Western Intellectuals and Journalists Exasperate the Suffering and Injustice
Another notable feature of the dismantling of Yugoslavia was the very widespread support for the Western interventions expressed by liberals and leftists. These intellectuals and journalists swallowed and helped propagate the standard narrative with remarkable gullibility, and their work made a major contribution to engineering consent to the ethnic cleansing wars, the NATO bombing attacks, the neocolonial occupations of Bosnia and Kosovo, and the wars that followed against Afghanistan and Iraq [...]

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

American News Outlet to Admit Milosevic did NOT start war

http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=1208

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November 21st 2007 05:45:26 PM

Boston Globe: First Mainstream American News Outlet to Admit Milosevic did
not "Start" Balkan Wars

Posted by Julia under Republican Riot

In a surprisingly sober Boston Globe editorial today titled "First Kosovo,
and then what?" - in which Globe editors understand that a unilateral
declaration of independence "could set off instability across the Balkans
and beyond" - the following paragraph is included:

"While 20 of the EU's 27 members favor independence for Kosovo, nearly all
dread a unilateral declaration. That prospect conjures up memories of
Europe's
careless acceptance of declarations of independence from Yugoslavia by
Slovenia, Croatia, and Bosnia in the early 1990s. Those acts ushered in
horrific wars and crimes against humanity."

Let the record show November 21, 2007 as the date that, for perhaps the
first time in history since the 1990s Balkan wars, the mainstream American
media has acknowledged that illegal acts of secession, hastily recognized by
European nations, are what set off the Balkan wars. This is the first time I
am seeing something other than, and in contradiction to, "Slobodan Milosevic
set off the Balkan wars."

While the piece starts off with the usual mythology about Milosevic's
"ethnic cleansing" of Kosovo villages, some worthy paragraphs finish it off:

"A unilateral lunge for independence by Kosovo could spur Serbs in Bosnia
and Herzogovina - half that country's population - to follow suit. And
Kremlin warnings against the imposition of any Kosovo formula not acceptable
to Serbia raises the specter of Russian backing for independence movements
in Georgia, Moldova, and even Ukraine. This would be a prescription for
armed conflict around the periphery of Europe.

"Some European diplomats also worry about the United Nations carving new
countries out of older countries' provinces. They recognize that separatist
reflexes persist in regions such as Catalonia and the Basque country. Even
the Flemish and Walloon populations of tiny Belgium may want a nationalist
divorce.

"...[T]he European, American, and Russian mediators should keep Serbia and
the Kosovars at the negotiating table as long as it takes to hammer out a
resolution to which both sides agree. This may mean incorporating the
Serbian-populated area of Kosovo into Serbia proper, along with Serbian
monasteries and holy sites. It may entail minor population transfers. But
whatever the eventual solution, it should be accepted by the two peoples and
not imposed by outsiders."
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taliban controls 54% of Afghanistan

Press TV
Thursday November 22, 2007

The Taliban has a stable presence in 54% of Afghanistan which puts it in grave danger of falling into Taliban hands, says a report.

The 110-page report, released on Wednesday, has been issued by The Senlis Council, a Brussels-based international policy think-tank, on the basis of what it called an exclusive research.

The Taliban controls "vast swaths of unchallenged territory" and is exercising a "significant amount of psychological control, gaining more and more political legitimacy in the minds of the Afghan people," the report revealed.

"It is a sad indictment of the current state of Afghanistan that the question now appears to be not if the Taliban will return to Kabul, but when this will happen and in what form" and reaching the city in 2008 appears more viable than ever, it said.

The report suggested that NATO-led International Security Forces of some 40,000 troops should be doubled, and should also include forces from Muslim countries as well as NATO states which have refused to send troops to the country.

Senior British and US military commanders reportedly agree with the report in private despite their public emphasis on short-term successes against Taliban fighters.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its virtually impossible to see how Kosovo could survive as an independent nation, unless a whole economy were created for it. And that sort of thing only happens if a puppet state is to be created.

When I toured Serbia in 2005, I heard only depressing reports from those who had been in Kosovo. According to one English writer I met, the only real economic activity was either crime, or supplying 'services' to UN officials - be it as drivers, translators or prostitutes.

That was it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulStott wrote:
Its virtually impossible to see how Kosovo could survive as an independent nation, unless a whole economy were created for it. And that sort of thing only happens if a puppet state is to be created.

When I toured Serbia in 2005, I heard only depressing reports from those who had been in Kosovo. According to one English writer I met, the only real economic activity was either crime, or supplying 'services' to UN officials - be it as drivers, translators or prostitutes.

That was it.


Try going to www.euinkosovo.org/uk/invest/invest.php

Yes a puppet state and I'd love to know the name of 'one English writer'/disinformer, or perhaps just another ignorant Englishperson?
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Yes a puppet state and I'd love to know the name of 'one English writer'/disinformer, or perhaps just another ignorant Englishperson?


The person concerned is a well known travel writer, who has published books on the Balkans (amongst others).

As I have no desire to inflict the full 9/11 cult treatment on him, I will not name him here.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://unitedalbania.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection &id=4&Itemid=29

How Albania becomes great after the new wars being brewed.

10th December will be a crucial day.
It would take the Serbs with a tactical army less than a day to take Kosovo.
NATO soldiers would be no match.

Already the US-UK are bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan.
No one wishes for a new war. But it appears we are heading into that direction. The omens aren't good.

The recent talk about the armys morale is a propaganda offensive to spend more money for new wars.

But Northern Rock is bankrupting the government.

More money for the bankers or the army? Cant do both...
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