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I'm not saying there's anything in this exactly but when I come across things like this it gives me the chills!!
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Interesting find.
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Gosh. That is astonishing.
The Matrix was made in 1999. |
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| Actually it is impossible to be sure from the image posted that this is what is written on the passport. Do you have a clearer image or can you direct us to one? |
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| kbo234 wrote: | | Do you have a clearer image or can you direct us to one? |
Well I took a photo from the actual DVD to confirm this to myself (the first photo was from a Windows Movie Maker clip).
I did.
There is no doubt in my mind that the value in the date field in the lower right corner is 11 SEP / SEP 01.
The forum is a pain with attachments, so here is a clearer image (4shared.com may require email registration, but it's a great service anyhow and I recommend it):
http://www.4shared.com/file/31602057/e641c452/dscn2171__5_.html
It looks like a similar value is repeated in the two other date fields as well.
The numbers in these two are not very clear but my take is that the one to the left of the one above is 12-SEP / SEP 01, and the one above it is 13 SEP / SEP 01.
How do you fancy Mr. Anderson, the Son of Man (andras=man in Greek), being...born(?) on 11 SEP 01? 
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| Thanks acrobat....and good work. |
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Imageshack is the way lads
http://www.imageshack.us/
No doubt about it: 11 SEP/SEP 01
Now I'm off to my Matrix DVD to check for myself....
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Yep had a look and zoomed it up, definately 11 SEP/SEP 01
I've got 17:35 as the time index
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| Quote: | | Andy and Larry Wachowski were born to a Polish-American family[1] in Chicago. |
| Quote: | Shortly after the release of Matrix Reloaded, it was rumored that Larry Wachowski began to make small public appearances dressed as a woman, using the name Lana Wachowski.[5] In his column, published May 30, 2003, David Poland said "Every indication I have says that Larry Wachowski is now in the process of changing his sex. Dressing in public like a woman, taking female hormones and yes, having a sex change operation." This was further supported by a March 2006 San Francisco Chronicle article on transgender people, which reported that Larry Wachowski, "has changed his sex and is now living as Lana Wachowski". [6]
However, in a 2007 interview Joel Silver, the producer of numerous Wachowski films, stated that the rumors concerning Larry's sex change were "all untrue," further explaining, "they just don’t do interviews, so people make things up." Similar statements were made by crew members working on the upcoming Speed Racer film, with one employee pointing out, "on the call sheets, it still says Larry." [7] |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wachowski_brothers
| Quote: | | The Matrix trilogy is the most successful cinematic venture of the past several decades. Together, The Matrix, The Matrix Reloaded, and The Matrix Revolutions have grossed over three billion dollars worldwide, and the story continues with The Animatrix, The Matrix Comics, and The Matrix Online. The attention of audiences worldwide has been captured by the mind-bending storyline of these films and their phenomenal special effects, but the perennial question remains: What does it all mean? |
| Quote: | | Ken suggests that it's not until the last twenty minutes of part 3, Revolutions, that the key to the trilogy is revealed: although—and perhaps because—Neo is physically blind, he sees the machines as luminous, golden light—not quite how the "bad guys" are seen in most movies. And yet Neo is unmistakable in what he says to Trinity: "If you could see them as I see them, they are all made of Light...." |
Revelations? Lucifer?
| Quote: | | The Wachowskis did not want their own original intent to overpower the equally legitimate viewer response, and so they remained thunderously silent about their original intent. |
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| acrobat74 wrote: | | As for Larry's private life I can't see how it's related to anything and I think we should leave it alone. |
Rubbish. They created the thing. With the 911 joke. Why?
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| acrobat74 wrote: | | kbo234 wrote: | | Do you have a clearer image or can you direct us to one? |
Well I took a photo from the actual DVD to confirm this to myself (the first photo was from a Windows Movie Maker clip).
I did.
There is no doubt in my mind that the value in the date field in the lower right corner is 11 SEP / SEP 01.
The forum is a pain with attachments, so here is a clearer image (4shared.com may require email registration, but it's a great service anyhow and I recommend it):
http://www.4shared.com/file/31602057/e641c452/dscn2171__5_.html
It looks like a similar value is repeated in the two other date fields as well.
The numbers in these two are not very clear but my take is that the one to the left of the one above is 12-SEP / SEP 01, and the one above it is 13 SEP / SEP 01.
How do you fancy Mr. Anderson, the Son of Man (andras=man in Greek), being...born(?) on 11 SEP 01? |
11 SEP 01 is the passport's expiry date
His date of birth is 13 SEP 71 |
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| Jack wrote: | | acrobat74 wrote: | | kbo234 wrote: | | Do you have a clearer image or can you direct us to one? |
Well I took a photo from the actual DVD to confirm this to myself (the first photo was from a Windows Movie Maker clip).
I did.
There is no doubt in my mind that the value in the date field in the lower right corner is 11 SEP / SEP 01.
The forum is a pain with attachments, so here is a clearer image (4shared.com may require email registration, but it's a great service anyhow and I recommend it):
http://www.4shared.com/file/31602057/e641c452/dscn2171__5_.html
It looks like a similar value is repeated in the two other date fields as well.
The numbers in these two are not very clear but my take is that the one to the left of the one above is 12-SEP / SEP 01, and the one above it is 13 SEP / SEP 01.
How do you fancy Mr. Anderson, the Son of Man (andras=man in Greek), being...born(?) on 11 SEP 01? |
11 SEP 01 is the passport's expiry date
His date of birth is 13 SEP 71 |
Good call, 13 SEP 71 seems to be the value in the date field at the top.
11 SEP 01 makes more sense as an expiry date for Mr. Anderson.
What's the date field in the middle?
And can you post a better quality pic?
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| rodin wrote: | | acrobat74 wrote: | | As for Larry's private life I can't see how it's related to anything and I think we should leave it alone. |
Rubbish. They created the thing. With the 911 joke. Why? |
That still doesn't say what that has to do at all with whether or not he's having sexual reassignment surgery. If he is or isn't has f**k all to do with what may in all likelihood be just a really, really weird coincidence.
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| TmcMistress wrote: | | rodin wrote: | | acrobat74 wrote: | | As for Larry's private life I can't see how it's related to anything and I think we should leave it alone. |
Rubbish. They created the thing. With the 911 joke. Why? |
That still doesn't say what that has to do at all with whether or not he's having sexual reassignment surgery. If he is or isn't has f**k all to do with what may in all likelihood be just a really, really weird coincidence. |
Coincidence is the refuge of shills
In any case I am not so much pointing up sexual weirdness as the tribe connection.
It is simply more 'coincidence' evidence that 911 was inside knowledge among tribe members. They controlled Hollywood from its inception, as per the Protocols of Zion Rothschild plan
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| rodin wrote: |
Coincidence is the refuge of shills
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... the sky must be beautiful in your universe.
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| TmcMistress wrote: | | rodin wrote: |
Coincidence is the refuge of shills
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... the sky must be beautiful in your universe. |
Lucky Larry Silverstein and the biggest insurance scam in history? Nah - coincidence
Mirror exercises going on during 911 and 7/7 - just a coincidence
Soviets in charge of US security, law, the twin prongs of a communist putch against its own citizens - merely a coincidence
Nothing to see here. Move along
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Your words
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The expiry date is 11 Sept 2001.
It was made 2 yrs before. I think 911 could have been planned many years before. See the talisman folding dollar bills that ensure the American people were subconsciusly focussed on making it happen.
Who put this detail in A The writers B The Design AssistantC The Editors
Under whose instruction and why?
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Wow,
Expiration 9/11/01.
Well that's just a coincidence!
Episode 1 of the Lone Gunman: Attempt to fly remote controlled planes loaded with passengers into the twin towers. The planes even take off from Boston, screened in April/May 2001.
Drills on 7/7 exact same stations, exact same scenario. All just a coincidence. Go back to sleep.
Conincidence, coincidence, coincidence.
I think that the evil b****** just love to have a  laugh at everyone.
Edward Bernays, Propaganda: 'The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.'
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| rodin wrote: | | TmcMistress wrote: | | rodin wrote: |
Coincidence is the refuge of shills
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... the sky must be beautiful in your universe. |
Lucky Larry Silverstein and the biggest insurance scam in history? Nah - coincidence
Mirror exercises going on during 911 and 7/7 - just a coincidence
Soviets in charge of US security, law, the twin prongs of a communist putch against its own citizens - merely a coincidence
Nothing to see here. Move along |
Are... you mad? No, really, honest question. You're seriously drawing parallels between a passport in a movie and dirty dealings on/before 9/11. I have to believe you are. What, the brothers Wachowski were in on the plot? LOL.
| Quote: | | Quote: | | Your attitude to open debate is deplorable. |
Your words |
... and? Making a habit of calling you on goofy s**t isn't the same as scuttling debate. And until you show me evidence that the Wachowski's were doing clandestine meetings with the CIA, the Bilderbergs, the hijackers, the Saudis, and whoever else may have been involved, I'm going to continue to call you silly. Especially in regards to this.
I mean, surely if this were anything but coincidence, the film of the planes hitting the towers would've been done in bullet time?
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To bring this thread, the right brained side of the story, the appearence of this particular date on Neo's passport may be simply illustrating the connectivity of all things.
Before we indulge ourselves in Con Theorum (though it is sometimes good to) we should remember that our incredible universe reflects everything and perhaps this remarkable synchronicity is nothing more than an indication of this process at work.
Maybe you should have expected this Mr Anderson?
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| acrobat74 wrote: | Funny...just found this in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_(The_Matrix)
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More information is provided on another page in the file which displays a passport:
Type: P
Surname: Anderson
First Name: Thomas A.
Nationality: United States of America
Date of Birth: 13 Sep 71
Sex: M
Place of Birth: Capital City
Date of Effect: 12 Sep 91
Date of Expiry: 11 Sep 01
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Watch the countdown-like sequence:
13, 12, 11.
Birth, effect, expiry. |
All references to the passport seem to have disappeared from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo_%28The_Matrix%29
but there's the following on internet movie databse
| Quote: | Some personal information can be seen on Thomas Anderson's "criminal record" that Agent Smith glances at when he interrogates Neo: The last update to the file was July 22, 1998 Neo's date of birth is "March 11, 1962" Neo's place of birth is "Lower Downtown, Capitol City" Neo's mother's maiden name is "Michelle McCahey" Neo's father's name is "John Anderson" Neo attended "Central West Junior High" and "Owen Paterson High" (named after the film's production designer).
Seconds later a photocopy of his passport can be seen. There the place of his birth is CAPITAL CITY USA, his date of birth is the 13th of September 1971, the passport was issued on the 12th of September 1991 and will expire on the 11th of September 2001. |
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/trivia
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Excellent.
So what are the chances that...
- the specific date (11 Sep)
- of the specific year (2001)
- would be brought up in this specific movie (dealing with the control grid around us) out of all the movies made in 1999
- in the context of a countdown sequence (Birth 13 Sep, Effect 12 Sep, Expiry 11 Sep)
- and in a context where Thomas Anderson 'expires' and Neo is 'born' on 11 Sep 01?
There can be no other plausible explanation than foreknowledge on this one.
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