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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: Red Flag: Iran stops trading Oil in US$ |
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Quote: | TEHRAN, Dec 8--Major crude producer Iran has completely stopped carrying out its oil transactions in dollars, Iranian oil minister said on Saturday.
Gholam Hossein Nozari also labeled the greenback an "unreliable" currency.
"At the moment selling oil in dollars has been completely halted, in line with the policy of selling crude in non-dollar currencies," Nozari was quoted as saying by the ISNA news agency.
"The dollar is an unreliable currency, considering its devaluation and the oil exporters' losses," he added.
The world's fourth largest oil exporter, Iran has massively reduced its dependence on the dollar over the past year in the face of US pressures on its financial system.
The US has also encouraged major European and Asian banks to cut their dealings with Iran in a bid to make the Islamic Republic give way on its nuclear program.
Iran has reduced its assets in dollars held in foreign banks and urged OPEC to take collective action to price oil in other currencies such as the euro, instead of the US currency which is used across the world at present.
The fall of the dollar, which has weakened considerably against the euro and other currencies in the past 12 months, has affected the revenues of OPEC members because most of them price and sell their oil exports in the US currency.
http://www.alalam.ir/English/en-News...20071208142508 |
I think we all know the history of countries following this move.... _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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datman Minor Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:41 am Post subject: |
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One of two things will come from this. One other nations will sell thier oil in other currencies sealing our fate increacing the decline of the dollar or the US will be at war with Iran |
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:44 am Post subject: |
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datman wrote: | One of two things will come from this. One other nations will sell thier oil in other currencies sealing our fate increacing the decline of the dollar or the US will be at war with Iran |
Can't see a reason both might not happen! _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Iraq was attacked specifically for switching out of dollars
So it is highly likely that this will finally send the B52s over the top.
Very sad, but this time round the US will not find it a walkover. Iranians will fight and American bases in Saudi and the Gulf will be attacked in return. We really will have world war 3.
Putin will back Iran as will China.
If all three and Venezualla shift into Euros out of dollars then the dollar really is toilet paper. |
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James C Major Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: |
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If Iran is attacked then it is game over for us in the UK and US. Better stock up on food supplies now because Iran will close the Strait of Hormuz faster than we can see 'oh sh*t"' and that act will close in millions of barrels of desperately needed oil. It'll be like the fuel protests of 2000 all over again.
If Putin sticks to his policy then he'll back Iran as Karlos rightly says and it'll mean a hell of a lot more than increased warfare. From 2011, the same Russian gas supply pipeline which supplies gas to Europe and the UK will also supply the Chinese. If Iran is seriously threatened or even attacked who's to say Putin won't just shift gas supply priorities to China and cause major problems for us, especially as we'll be almost 100% reliant on that gas by then. |
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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John your concerns over this Iran/Euro switch are IMO 100% warranted. False flag nukes here we come. And who is Chairman of the institution that MAKES dollars? On behalf of its shareholders? And who is in charge of US Security/Order? Law? Cui Bono if Iran is bombed? US? They are doomed, as a prescient poster notes in this thread.
Can anyone now doubt who the real masters of this global tyranny are? I ask you, because you are a force of moderation as well as moderating on the forum, and am trying to gauge the extent of deprogramming.
Quote: | "Something very special is going on here," an elderly Jewish man says with a twinkle in his eye. "We are lighting the Hanukkiyah, one of many Jewish symbols, in one of the most symbolic places in all of America. Is there something a Jew can take more pride in than that?" he asks. |
http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=209919
On another note.
It was revealed today that one of the Moderators at GIM was in fact a Freemasonic Officer and US Government agent. Caused quite a stink I can tell you. GIM was/is an honest attempt (IMO) at setting up a forum for freedom-loving US patriots of good heart. I was invited @ the outset but continued on at Gold-Eagle until the owner (a Dr Vronsky - go figure) banned me for bringing up Rothschild (go figure).
It LOOKS like TPTB may have placed an asset inside @ its inception. Possibly an agent from G-E.
It's a storm in a teacup. The details about the Mod were readily available on the internet, and, as you can see from the above, editorial policy is freedom but no abuse. Now jackals & dupes have descended claiming 'you can't trust this site' GIM 12/8 moment etc.
With Russian Jews behind GOOG & Facebook and Promis having been around in Koch's day, G-d rest his lack of soul, I am sure one insider supplying IP addresses makes not a whit of difference. Right now I expect the up-to-date contents of my hard drive are viewable in Tel Aviv, Washington, London, etc. _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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You want an honest answer and I'll give you one Rodin
I see the Zionists as a faction amongst many factions, who just happen to have played a good hand especially in the 20th century, but in and of themselves, they are a symptom: If we want to find the disease, we have to look inside the human psyche itself, becuase thats where it springs from
Powerful players, certainly, masters of the world? NO
There is no single dominant group, but there is a single dominant state of consciousness _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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John White wrote: | You want an honest answer and I'll give you one Rodin
I see the Zionists as a faction amongst many factions, who just happen to have played a good hand especially in the 20th century, but in and of themselves, they are a symptom: If we want to find the disease, we have to look inside the human psyche itself, becuase thats where it springs from
Powerful players, certainly, masters of the world? NO
There is no single dominant group, but there is a single dominant state of consciousness |
Thansk for that. I totally disagree with the notion being put out by the Club of Rome that 'The real enemy of humanity is humanity itself'. The real enemy is a psychopathic strain that wants to destroy all that we, no. I, consider good. _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | 'The real enemy of humanity is humanity itself' |
Yes but anyone can say that, no matter how dodgy they are: doesnt make the statement itself wrong
After all, the perception is a very old one, and certainly doesnt belong to a bunch of self-justifying loomies like the Club of Rome
Who else should we go to? Christ? Buddha? Socrates? etc
As for the psychopathic 4% (estimates say) yes they are the immediate problem, but after that, there is the far larger task of creating a vision and way for humanity that will never be vunerable to such predation again _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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John White wrote: | is the far larger task of creating a vision and way for humanity that will never be vunerable to such predation again |
There's your problem. Creating FOR them. Humanity must sort out its OWN future.
It can be done, with transparency, courage, the internet, and 96%
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OK I agree - a VISION not a SYSTEM though.
The vision must be collective, not 'divine' IMO....
Hell I sound like one of them???????????? _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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rodin wrote: | John White wrote: | is the far larger task of creating a vision and way for humanity that will never be vunerable to such predation again |
There's your problem. Creating FOR them. Humanity must sort out its OWN future.
It can be done, with transparency, courage, the internet, and 96%
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OK I agree - a VISION not a SYSTEM though.
The vision must be collective, not 'divine' IMO....
Hell I sound like one of them???????????? |
Its a b*, ain't it?
Personally, I look on what is needed not as a revolution/evolution/system or "ism", but as simply a Rennaisance of Human Self-Image: a change in the "story" of what it means to be human
The entire focus of what it means to be a human being must move to being one where the individual is encouraged and facilitated to challenge themselves to develop themselves throughout their entire lives
Its certainly a generational struggle
The biggest problem IMHO is that if we swept the elite off the planet today, we would be back in the same mess facing the same * in just a few short decades, maybe even years or months, without that very human rennaisnace
Meanwhile, the predators are preparing for another frenzy at the 96%'s expense... and we are in the situation where the majority of that 96% are still unaware of the predators very existance... _________________ Free your Self and Free the World
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John White Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yes, this is no Net scuttlebutt, its as real as news gets
Quote: | The flaw really is in the human psyche itself; we can't really judge others for we are all part of the same consciousness; the dreadful aspects of human nature are in us all.
It's time to evolve as a species or face the consequences. |
spot on mate _________________ Free your Self and Free the World |
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James C Major Poster
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John White Site Admin
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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acrobat74 wrote: |
The flaw really is in the human psyche itself; we can't really judge others for we are all part of the same consciousness; the dreadful aspects of human nature are in us all.
It's time to evolve as a species or face the consequences. |
How's about starting with removing the artificial leverage the '4%' have? Instead of beating ourselves and wearing sackcloth? I mean, how obvious a solution is that?
I bet the remaining 96% could work out a pretty good deal for Planet Earth given a level playing field. Call it 100% BUT WITH NO SECRET FRAUDULENT LEVERAGE.
You can't chaperone your children all their lives. (For a start they tend to live longer than you). _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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I have always thought Ahmind.. oh whatever - was an asset. Google October Surprise, Iran Contra etc. _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Michael Mukasey has a close relationship with former mayor Rudy Giuliani, as confirmed by Tony Fratto, a presidential spokesperson.[46] Mukasey and Giuliani have been friends since working at the same law firm in the early 1970s.[47] Mukasey has pledged to recuse himself from cases involving Giuliani. Newspaper reports assumed that Mukasey will further recuse himself from cases involving Bernard Kerik, a former New York City police commissioner under Giuliani, who is under federal investigation for bribery and other offenses. However, neither presidential spokespersons nor Mukasey returned reporters' inquiries into whether Mukasey would recuse himself from the Kerik case.[48][49]
Mukasey's son, Marc Mukasey, has been assigned by Giuliani's campaign to block Kerik's legal defense team from interviewing witnesses that might assist his defense.[50] |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Mukasey
Quote: | Mukasey also was the judge in the litigation between developer Larry Silverstein and several insurance companies arising from the destruction of the World Trade Center. |
dum de dum de dum... _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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