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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: CIA Interrogation Videos Reply with quote

BBC World: 9/11 Chairman Thomas Kean responds to the destruction of C.I.A. interrogation videos

December 07, 2007

Co-Chairman of the 9/11 Commission Report Thomas Kean responds to the new information about C.I.A. videos having been destroyed, videos that the 911 commission had ask for.

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/index.php?p=223

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious whether people see this as significant.

Naomi Wolf made a good argument, as did Robert Scheer, that this places the 9/11 official story into question:

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/70676/

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20071211_scheer_dec_12_waterboardi ng_our_democracy/

Law professor Anthony D'Amato was raising questions about the Khlad Sheik Mohammed question as a product of torture, even before tapes were reportedly destroyed.

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2007/03/true-confessions-tale-of-kha lid-shaikh.php

FBI and CIA claim that Zubaydah made admissions about 9/11 before he was tortured, but there is no way to corroborate that:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/17/AR2007 121702151.html

Destruction of evidence may give rise to a presumption of guilt.

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/12/911-commissioner-expert-o n-destruction.html

It at least gives rise an inference that the evidence would be unfavorable, though whether in relation to just torture, or also 9/11, we don't know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoliation_of_evidence

http://library.findlaw.com/products-liability/evidence/spoliation/sanc tion-for-spoliation/index.html
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naomi Wolf: “Let the investigations begin.”

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What we are likely to see if the tapes documenting the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah and Abd Al-Rahim Al-Nashiri are ever recovered is that the "confessions" of the prisoners upon which the White House has built its entire case for subverting the Constitution and suspending civil liberties in this country was obtained through methods such as electrocution, beating to the point of organ failure, hanging prisoners from the wrists from a ceiling, suffocation, and threats against family members ("I am going to find your mother and I am going to * her" is one direct quote from a US interrogator). On the missing tapes, we would likely see responses from the prisoners that would be obvious to us as confessions to anything at all in order to end the violence.

In other words, if we could witness the drama of manufacturing by torture the many violently coerced "confessions" upon which the whole house of cards of this White House and its hyped "war on terror" rests, it would likely cause us to reopen every investigation, including the most serious ones (remember, even the 9/11 committee did not receive copies of the tapes); shut down the corrupt, Stalinesque Military Commissions System; turn over prisoners, the guilty and the innocent, into a working, accountable justice system operating in accordance with American values; and direct our legal scrutiny to the torturers themselves -- right up to the office of the Vice President and the President if that is where the investigations would lead.


http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/70676/

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