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I've been warning the 'smoking ban' Is Just the Tip

 
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: I've been warning the 'smoking ban' Is Just the Tip Reply with quote

They don't want a society able to socially network. When the Internet goes then what??

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Pint of beer could hit £4 next year

The average price of a pint of bitter in Britain's pubs could increase from around £2.20 to as much as £4 next year, the industry has warned.

The massive hike, which is also expected to affect cans bought from off licences, is due largely to increased prices of key ingredients barley and hops - in part because farmland is being turned over to environment-friendly biofuels.

But brewers are also suffering from rises in fuel costs and the price of the metals used to produce kegs and cans. Kegs are now so valuable that they have become a target for thieves, who stole 60 million this year to melt down for their metal.

Mark Hastings, director of communications at the British Beer and Pub Association, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "Food prices have increased dramatically and that has affected, for us, the price of barley and hops, which have rocketed tremendously.

"But on top of that, we have also got increases in commodity prices, so for example, with the kegs and cans that we put beer into, the cost of metal has escalated dramatically.

"On top of that, because kegs are such valuable items we are losing a lot of them - about 60 million a year are being thieved at present to smelt down into metal.

"Then we have also got things like fuel prices, which affect both the cost of producing the beer in the first place and then transporting it to and from pubs, because beer is quite a bulky product and it actually costs quite a lot to drive it to and from places.

"All these factors have increased the cost of being a brewer quite dramatically. Brewers have been clinging on for the last two years, trying to contain prices and we have seen consolidation in the market - brewers buying out other brewers to try to contain costs. We have also seen job losses in the sector - about 2,000 have gone this year.

"But now there is no more to carve out of the business so the only thing that we are able to do is to put prices up. Nobody wants to do it. The last thing the industry wants is more expensive beer."

Mr Hastings said the price hike came against a general decline in British beer sales, with some 14 million fewer pints a day being served in pubs than in the past.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mr Hastings said the price hike came against a general decline in British beer sales, with some 14 million fewer pints a day being served in pubs than in the past.


Numerous reports from work colleagues saying no one is going out says to me the economy is in worse shape than they tell us!!
No one out in busy Southend, pubs empty. No one out in Braintree Saturday night except Wetherspoons and a live gig??

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about a good old cup of rosie lee or an expensive costa coffee. Far more places to meet socially than the pub and at least afterwards you can remember what was said rather than getting tanked up.

I am all for £4 a pint if they reduce cost of petrol. knackering our transport sytems and making cost of travel so high will have more affect on social gatherings etc

£4 a pint= drink half as much. Might make our city centres safer places

I am not a smoker but do disagree with the draconian rules. Its discrimination against smokers. Why cant they have smoking pubs and non smoking pubs or separate rooms.
Our local hospital was complaining that the smoke from smokers outside was blowing back into the hospital when the doors open and they now want to ban smokers outside the hospital. Pot calling the kettle black with MRSA etc

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At £3.50 for a cup of Chai Tea you must be kidding Shocked at that was over a year ago maybe 2
But yea soon it will be shops and coffee houses, but remember for alot of people it takes a few to get them up on their soapboxes and or cast off their inhibitions that would otherwise stop them joining in Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pubs are being phased out - on the new housing estates, there seems to be a distinct lack of focus, lack of obvious meeting places. The smoking ban and rise in beer prices will knock a few more out, then what? everyone stays in and talks to each other on facebook and ..er... internet forums. DOH!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest our personal preferences are better than theirs
We need tobacco,dope, opium and gin palaces to better defeat this tight-assed agenda, and less of their more pernicious poisons.
Bring on the speakeasy
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