Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 290 Location: New Albion
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: Red/Gray Chips: More Thermite evidence from Dr. Jones
Dr. Steven E. Jones delivers the goods again. Dr. Jones is the person who got me to seriously reconsider 9/11.
In this video he describes recent findings regarding what appears to be unreacted thermite in the form of small "eggshell-like" chips which are red on one side and gray on the other.
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Red/Gray Chips: More Thermite evidence from Dr. Jones
Alulim wrote:
Dr. Steven E. Jones delivers the goods again. Dr. Jones is the person who got me to seriously reconsider 9/11.
In this video he describes recent findings regarding what appears to be unreacted thermite in the form of small "eggshell-like" chips which are red on one side and gray on the other.
This is scientific B.S. Firstly, the iron spherules are NOT unambiguous evidence of high-temperature melting by thermite/thermate. High explosives placed near iron can briefly create temperatures higher than the melting point of iron. All Jones found in his dust samples from a house 100 metres from WTC2 were specks of iron that had been melted by the blast of TONS of high explosives placed in the towers and then ejected into the atmosphere, subsequently dropping to the ground, some of which entered the apartment of his donor. Secondly, the fact that thermate contains the same elements as the red, ferric oxide flakes is of no significance. There was such a toxic cocktail of elements like silicon, sulphur, iron, oxygen, calcium, barium & copper released into the atmosphere by first the fires and then the series of demolition explosions at the WTC that they contaminated everything, including Jones' dust samples and flakes. The sulphur Jones found in his iron spherules, which he believes is a unique signature of thermite, is easily explainable as the sulphur released by the burning of gypsum wallboards and other materials. It's simply sulphur dioxide created by the fires that got mixed with other contaminants in the air within iron particles that had been heated to melting point in a millisecond by the explosions and then solidified, trapping them within the specks. See
http://www.911myths.com/Sulfur.pdf
for the explanation of the sulphur contamination of the air.
Health scientists examining dust samples at Ground Zero found similar elements - the SAME chemical signatures. Did they conclude that they came from unused thermate? Of course not! You don't hypothesize an exotic cause of an observation if more conventional ones can readily explain it. Jones ought to know that. But he is so wedded to his thermite theory that he clutches at any straws he can find, knowing that most in the 9/11 truth movement will uncritically accept what he says. His scientific peers, however, would tell a different story, if they had to review his research. Far from this being the final nail in the coffin, as Jones would have you believe, all it demonstrates is that his nails are made of straw.
Depends if you trust a Mormon/Mason from Utah University with links to nuclear fusion, hot and cold, Lawrence Livermore, and a suspicious history vis a vis the Utah duo Pons and Fleischman. Some interesting stuff I found...
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Red/Gray Chips: More Thermite evidence from Dr. Jones
[quote="Micpsi"]
Alulim wrote:
High explosives placed near iron can briefly create temperatures higher than the melting point of iron. All Jones found in his dust samples from a house 100 metres from WTC2 were specks of iron that had been melted by the blast of TONS of high explosives placed in the towers and then ejected into the atmosphere, subsequently dropping to the ground, some of which entered the apartment of his donor.
Or a number of tiny D-T fusion devices - or maybe even a bomb using the reaction described here which is fusion sans neutron emmission
Does it really matter anymore to any but damage control/mindf*ck artists just what brought the towers down?
They collapsed, contrary to the known laws of physics. Couple that with Norman Mineta's testimony to the Omission Commission, and already there is sufficient evidence for an international court with sufficient will to prosecute...
And it seems Amerika's lawyers have finally been pricked into action - check what Boyle and Cohn are saying and doing now.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: Red/Gray Chips: More Thermite evidence from Dr. Jones
Micpsi wrote:
Alulim wrote:
Dr. Steven E. Jones delivers the goods again. Dr. Jones is the person who got me to seriously reconsider 9/11.
In this video he describes recent findings regarding what appears to be unreacted thermite in the form of small "eggshell-like" chips which are red on one side and gray on the other.
This is scientific B.S. Firstly, the iron spherules are NOT unambiguous evidence of high-temperature melting by thermite/thermate. High explosives placed near iron can briefly create temperatures higher than the melting point of iron. All Jones found in his dust samples from a house 100 metres from WTC2 were specks of iron that had been melted by the blast of TONS of high explosives placed in the towers and then ejected into the atmosphere, subsequently dropping to the ground, some of which entered the apartment of his donor. Secondly, the fact that thermate contains the same elements as the red, ferric oxide flakes is of no significance. There was such a toxic cocktail of elements like silicon, sulphur, iron, oxygen, calcium, barium & copper released into the atmosphere by first the fires and then the series of demolition explosions at the WTC that they contaminated everything, including Jones' dust samples and flakes. The sulphur Jones found in his iron spherules, which he believes is a unique signature of thermite, is easily explainable as the sulphur released by the burning of gypsum wallboards and other materials. It's simply sulphur dioxide created by the fires that got mixed with other contaminants in the air within iron particles that had been heated to melting point in a millisecond by the explosions and then solidified, trapping them within the specks. See
http://www.911myths.com/Sulfur.pdf
for the explanation of the sulphur contamination of the air.
Health scientists examining dust samples at Ground Zero found similar elements - the SAME chemical signatures. Did they conclude that they came from unused thermate? Of course not! You don't hypothesize an exotic cause of an observation if more conventional ones can readily explain it. Jones ought to know that. But he is so wedded to his thermite theory that he clutches at any straws he can find, knowing that most in the 9/11 truth movement will uncritically accept what he says. His scientific peers, however, would tell a different story, if they had to review his research. Far from this being the final nail in the coffin, as Jones would have you believe, all it demonstrates is that his nails are made of straw.
'Did health scientists conclude Thermite? Of course not!'
Nor did officials of NWO find the dust was injurious to health...
'His scientific peers, however, would tell a different story...'
Indeed? Bring 'em on, (an expression of one of your heros?) would say. Prof. Jones specifically invited peer revue.... where are they?...
Amazing how the vitriol starts pouring out when 9/11 Truth gets a breakthrough...'Scientific B.S.'? Dream on.. we will win the Truth debate, if we are not eliminated or incarcerated under Martial Law first.
Could I suggest you watch, for the remainder of the Festive Season, this soothing Science exposition by Dr. Judy Wood, http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-558096240694803017 , or read Dr Seffen's intrigueing 'pancake theory', endorsed by none other than Jamie Oliver, who rates it much higher than turkey twizzlers (but graciously Jamie admits he's not too hot on engineering or physics).
Well posted, Alumin!! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Posts: 137 Location: southend essex
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:15 am Post subject:
Dr. Judy Wood, professor of Mechanical Engineering... Ha ha professor of stupidity more like.. I wonder where people like Dr Wood are really coming from. Funny link bit sad as well.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject:
landless peasant scum wrote:
Dr. Judy Wood, professor of Mechanical Engineering... Ha ha professor of stupidity more like.. I wonder where people like Dr Wood are really coming from. Funny link bit sad as well.
What's even sadder are the so-called Truthers who follow her 'beamology'. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Please don't let Dr. Wood get this info! (or Seffen, for that matter!). _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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