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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Loose Change Final Cut - The Evidence Reply with quote

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The Evidence That What Really Happened At 9/11 Has Been Covered Up: As Shown In Loose Change Final Cut.

The evidence collated in the film, when viewed in its totality now proves beyond reasonable doubt that the official story of 9/11 cannot be true. The film includes the allegations that:

1) At least 6 of the alleged named 9/11 hijackers match the names of 6 Arabs who were trained at US military bases. We have obtained letters under the US Freedom of Information act showing this. In addition, two of the alleged named hi-jackers shared a home with an FBI informant.

2) That US agents had been tailing the hi-jackers prior to 9/11 and made three attempts to inform the FBI - each time the meetings were cancelled. The US government denies any foreknowledge of the identities of the hi-jackers. The film proves that the Able Danger investigation did collate significant information regarding the activities of the alleged hijackers in the months prior to 9/11 – that much of this material was destroyed, but some of it still exists.

3) That the man who according to the FBI and the Wall Street Journal funded 9/11, and sent Mohammad Atta $100,000, was none other than the head of the Pakistan Secret Service. He was meeting with key US government officials on the morning of 9/11. He ‘retired’ one month after his meetings.

4) That Dick Cheney was warned that a plane was going to hit the Pentagon. That officials requested permission to shoot it down and he refused to give that permission, effectively condemning 120 US patriots to be killed. This is backed up by testimony we have obtained by Norman Mineta, US transportation secretary at the time of 9/11. This video evidence was presented to the 9/11 commission but was conveniently ‘lost’. We have obtained his testimony as reported to the 9/11 commission, and we have separately interviewed Mr Mineta who re-confirms his version of events.

5) That the part of the building which was hit at the Pentagon was, according to Donald Rumsfeld investigating a missing a possible 2 trillion dollars….we have film of Rumsfeld confirming the investigation into the possible missing 2 trillion, shot the day before 9/11 on 10th September 2001.

6) Expert testimony confirming that building 7, the third building which imploded on the afternoon of 9/11, could only have been brought down by controlled demolition - there is no other plausible explanation.

7) Expert testimony from Mechanical Engineer Gordon Ross confirming: ‘The official story of how the twin towers collapsed defeats two laws of physics’. His peer reviewed paper has not been refuted by any official US government agencies.

The film also show’s utterly damming evidence regarding how the Bush Administration forced the EPA to change the air quality warnings about the safety of breathing in toxic fumes from the dust that covered Manhattan in the days after 9/11 condemning thousands to a slow death.

This is just some of the remarkable evidence set out in the film.
The film has been fact checked for accuracy by Dr David Ray Griffin and we can source every claim made.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/loose-change-final-cut-the-evidence  /1722/

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the contents run down Mick.
I'm looking forward to seeing this one soon.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you going to London on the 24th?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I note that the streaming version is on the torrents, and I'm waiting for my download, and that infodvd claims to have it but it doesn't appear in his shop yet. Anybody seen it yet?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you going to London on the 24th?


I wish I was, but unfortunately the CSA doesn't allow for fripperies like truth seeking Smile

Like dh, I'll be waiting for the torrent to complete sometime overnight.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Like dh, I'll be waiting for the torrent to complete sometime overnight.

I'm waiting for my Man
Twenty-six dollars in my hand (not worth a lot in terms of the diminishing dollar- hardly buy a wrap nowadays I guess - mind you the Afghan op ensures it stays cheap on the streets)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grrr... there's a conspiracy within a conspiracy within a network enigma to prevent Loose Change FC from getting to my PC.

All torrents are at 22% and streaming versions I've found just clog up and stop. Links on forums get removed... have I missed something here?

Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cough...

There's a 1gig version on NeoConCentral too - both slow. Jesus, all this talk about lightning distribution of counter-cultural media - ROTFL!!

The main site is totally Xenophobic: http://www.loosechangethefinalcut.com/notusa.html

- I'm off to get a fast proxy and pretend I'm from Hawaii or something.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conspiracy Central might really be delivering
Lots of hosts and a relatively fast download. Mines at 95 per cent and here's hoping. Never mind, it will be all over the internet within 24 hrs

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they are selling the DVD on pre order, but I saw it in London at the campaign meeting a couple of weeks ago.. it's the best 9/11 truth film to date imo, but make up your own mind, someone on this forum posted a link to it on [edit IN]

Would love to get down to London too and give my support but it's an expensive trip.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very soon gone offline. Quelle suprise.
Maybe catch up later

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m still watching this on google. Now at 1:15.

It’s looking very good Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

but I think it’s past my bedtime.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject: Leaflet distribution for Loose Change Reply with quote

Someone suggested handing leaflets out on Loose Change Final Cut (but I can't find the message in this thread!).

I asked the Brixton cinema whether they had leaflets that we could distribute to try to get bums on seats, and they replied that they will have a stock of 500 available on Thursday - more if we request more.

So, is anyone interested in handing leaflets out?

If so, where is best to do it, and when?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cough... http://www.mininova.org/get/989706

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I've got this absolutely beasting along at the moment, torrenting in under an hour

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dh wrote:
Never mind, it will be all over the internet within 24 hrs


I pulled a link yesterday in the hope that Tim Sparke might be able to reign this in. The cunning plan of not putting this on the net but instead trying build more momentum and buzz by only releasing this in cinemas appears to be going pear-shaped, which will be a great shame. I will remove the links again but I expect this is entirely futile and it will indeed be all over the net within 24 hrs. Oh well. In which case the links can be reposted.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've become used to getting truth films for free.. which is fair enough and long may it continue. It doesn't stop people buying a high quality DVD.. in fact a few years back I read that internet 'piracy' actually helps boost sales.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Official release on google:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5474924297300734616

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Official release on google:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5474924297300734616


Do you know if that's from the LC team themselves or a leak?

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Mick Meaney wrote:
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Official release on google:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5474924297300734616


Do you know if that's from the LC team themselves or a leak?


I just picked it up from 9/11 Blogger
http://www.911blogger.com/node/12498

It's loaded on their profile and links to their site, so I assume it's official.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John White wrote:
utopiated wrote:
Cough... http://www.mininova.org/get/989706

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I've got this absolutely beasting along at the moment, torrenting in under an hour

this one worked for me. Smile

not the greatest quality but only 350Mb and it downloaded quickly.

I've got a higher quality version (just over a Gb) downloading as we speak....
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John White wrote:
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Cough... http://www.mininova.org/get/989706

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I've got this absolutely beasting along at the moment, torrenting in under an hour

this one worked for me. Smile

not the greatest quality but only 350Mb and it downloaded quickly.

I've got a higher quality version (just over a Gb) downloading as we speak....


Got a link for that by any chance?

The higher quality one I was expecting getting turned out to be LC2E Sad

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I found several at http://thepiratebay.org/

hopefully they are what they say they are....
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I found several at http://thepiratebay.org/

hopefully they are what they say they are....


Yeah that's where I got my attempts from too. Fingers crossed.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one works fine, high quality too
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3887861/Loose_Change_Final_Cut_%282007%29_ PROPER

This one is a smaller file (700 mb)
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3889672/

hope they are useful Smile
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agent orange wrote:
This one works fine, high quality too
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3887861/Loose_Change_Final_Cut_%282007%29_ PROPER

This one is a smaller file (700 mb)
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3889672/

hope they are useful Smile


Cheers AO - that's the one I've got d/l ing at the mo.
I should know for sure in about 47 minutes now Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you guy know for sure that the google vid link was created/sanctioned by the LC crew?
as this link has now been removed by google Confused
is this censorship or copyright protection?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you guy know for sure that the google vid link was created/sanctioned by the LC crew?
as this link has now been removed by google Confused
is this censorship or copyright protection?


Couldn't tell you, Mr. N.
But I will say even the better downloads while good tasters, aren't great (about cam quality) and won't put anybody off getting the DVD with extras
when it's released.

On the other hand, neither are gonna be a patch on watching the movie in the company of a couple of hundred other truthers.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Nwo.info site has a direct avi download on the link below....

http://91.121.24.223/Documentaries/Loose%20Change%20Final%20Cut(2007)/  

Copy & paste the whole text above into ya address bar


Quote:

http://www.loosechangethefinalcut.com/notusa.html

- I'm off to get a fast proxy and pretend I'm from Hawaii or something.


Yeah, I proxied it earlier in the week Thumbs Up

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It's very soon gone offline. Quelle suprise.
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Yup - they removed it at 50% for me too... Very Happy

I saw it on a 350MB and later a 1gig version anyway. Excellent effort - really polished. They omitted the bit about the gold bullion being nicked and piled into Dick Cheney's hatchback and several other things but I guess they were going for hard truths as much as possible.

I sent them a donation anyway - $5 should get them a coffee.

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ian neal wrote:
dh wrote:
Never mind, it will be all over the internet within 24 hrs


I pulled a link yesterday in the hope that Tim Sparke might be able to reign this in. The cunning plan of not putting this on the net but instead trying build more momentum and buzz by only releasing this in cinemas appears to be going pear-shaped, which will be a great shame. I will remove the links again but I expect this is entirely futile and it will indeed be all over the net within 24 hrs. Oh well. In which case the links can be reposted.


Doesn't help Ian when your mods quote posts with the links in and they get duplicated and missed Smile

Tim did a talk at Brixton I think - is he the one linked to Channel 5? I presume that's where it is getting shown then. Thing is ppl will still watch it and promote it even though they've seen it in another place/format so I don't see why anyone is bothering to stay on top of this.

Anyway - It will be a great day when that version hits mainstream, peak time TV.

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