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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Alex Jones Berlin wall Reply with quote

did you hear the friday program?

don on the show said he would like to shoot on site illegals crossing at mexican border

alex wishes him godspeed at end of show

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.infowars.com/listen.html

click the sixth red box on page for reefeed

hour 3 or end of hour 2

alex jones is a crackpot

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During the Babylonian captivity, the Hebrew language spoken by the Jews was replaced by the Aramaic language of their Babylonian captors, which was closely related to Hebrew and, while sharing many vocabulary words in common, contained some words that sounded the same or similar but had other meanings. In Aramaic, the Hebrew word for “blaspheme” used in Leviticus 24:16, “Anyone who blasphemes the name of YHWH must be put to death” carried the meaning of “pronounce” rather than “blaspheme”. When the Jews began speaking Aramaic, this verse was understood to mean, “Anyone who pronounces the name of YHWH must be put to death.” Since then, observant Jews have maintained the custom of not pronouncing the name, but use Adonai (“my Lord [plural of majesty]”) instead. During the first few centuries AD this may have resulted in loss of traditional memory of how to pronounce the Name (except among Samaritans). The Septuagint (Greek translation) and Vulgata (Latin translation) use the word "Lord" (κύριος and dominus, respectively).

The spelling of the Tetragrammaton and connected forms in the Hebrew Masoretic text of the Bible, with vowel points shown in red. (Click on image to enlarge.)
Many Jews will not even use "Adonai" except when praying, and substitute other terms, e.g. HaShem ("The Name") or the nonsense word Ado-Shem, out of fear of the potential misuse of the divine name. In written English, "G-d" is a common substitute.
Parts of the Talmud, particularly those dealing with Yom Kippur, seem to imply that the Tetragrammaton should be pronounced in several ways, with only one (not explained in the text, and apparently kept by oral tradition by the Kohen Gadol) being the personal name of God.
In late Kabbalistic works, t


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

they pretty much make me sick on gcnlive when joyce says yahweh

i bet thats why barry chamish wont come back on the show

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: alex jones berlin wall Reply with quote

festival of snickers wrote:
did you hear the friday program?

don on the show said he would like to shoot on site illegals crossing at mexican border

alex wishes him godspeed at end of show


"9/11 campaigner is right wing crackpot, shock."

Whatever next!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and he says many will hang when his people come to power

hes obviously insane

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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9/11 campaigner is right wing crackpot, shock."

Mods - why is he allowed to post here?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

an interesting thread title. I stopped listening to Alex Jones a year ago after he started whining about illegals. hes conditioned like everyone else. Patriotism means something different in USA>
Still think hes done well and i appreciate it, but cant handle his ranting any more.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally agree with the consensus so far about Alex Jones. To UK ears his ranting is over the top. He seems to severely resent the fact he wasn't around in 1776 to fight the Brits. He's also married, as I understand it, to someone who might not appreciate his mentioning Zionists in relation to 911. He only ever really mentions Zionists, who have a proven record in terror attacks, to assert that they weren't the main culprits in 911, it was the bushes etc. He's also obsessed with the UK royal family as devil worshiping rulers of the world or some such nonsense.

I put Alex Jones in the same vein as David Ike I'm afraid. Both men do useful work to a point, and then blow it with the mainstream with talk of Lizards from Ike and Germanic death cults from Jones. They're probably both deep place disinformation, or they'd have been silenced by now. The real threats to the criminal elite like Bill Cooper, who didn't have much time for Alex Jones either, get stopped as soon as they start to reach a wider audience. Cooper got gunned down in his car, and unlike alex, his career in Naval Intelligence gave him access to the things he was writing about.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the AJ is a devout Christian, in the US that means something completely different to the UK.

I don't listen to him anymore, the rants and the hate are all there.

Get past the we hate illegals and the Royal Family, the connections he makes and the info that gets passed on is mostly very good.

If you believe in the Elites/NWO, you have to benchmark that which makes sense to the ridiculous. It's always going to be around in an underground movement.

I wonder at how much anyone really knows about what is going on, so much is speculation, so much is suppersition, so much is dis information and so much is information.

Maybe we all only ever scrape the tip of he iceberg.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find alex jones very entertaining - and the more he rants the better as far as I'm concerned.

as for the content of what he says - I reckon that about a third of it is true, another third consists of half-truths and the rest is bs....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I find alex jones very entertaining - and the more he rants the better as far as I'm concerned.

as for the content of what he says - I reckon that about a third of it is true, another third consists of half-truths and the rest is bs....


speaking of a third and 1776

in 1776 a third was neutral a third was pro war a third was pro British in usa

they admit this on alex jones or one of those gcnlive shows

so if 2 thirds weren't for war how is that democrocy then ?

i myself i think am descended from both sides or i traced it to war of 1812 veteran and others who were at least in usa in 1750 probably before

its hard to say if the war was so good maybe it was good for democracy who knows but the constitution is ok i guess and people emigrated here because they thought it was a great system or is it?

being here i guess i have to say all is hunky dory then again im part american indian

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im part american indian and im sick sick sick of illegal aliens but i dont think they should be shot but i possiblely agree with a fence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnadenhutten_massacre

well heres what jones wont talk about

The Gnadenhutten massacre, also known as the Moravian massacre, was the killing on March 8, 1782, of ninety-six Christian American Indians, including sixty-eight women and children, by American militia from Pennsylvania during the American Revolutionary War. The incident took place at the Moravian missionary village of Gnadenhütten, which was located near what is now the town of Gnadenhutten, Ohio.

The next morning on 8 March, the Indians were killed as they knelt, their skulls crushed with a mallet. In all, 28 men, 29 women, and 39 children were murdered and then scalped. The corpses were then heaped into the mission buildings, and the town was burned to the ground. The other abandoned Moravian towns were then burned as well. Two boys, one of whom had been scalped, survived to tell of the massacre.

[edit] Aftermath

Although many white Americans were outraged by the Gnadenhutten massacre, many frontiersmen, embittered by a cruel war unlike anything in the East, voiced support for the militia's actions. Although there was some talk of bringing the killers to justice, no criminal charges were filed.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually I have heard jones talking on his show about the appalling way that native americans were treated many times - including this week.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes when Alex starts ranting about illegal aliens it makes my mind recoil too. That's because I've been conditioned from birth to hate my own culture and to have a conditioned response to anyone who dares mention the concept of borders. You can observe this response for yourselves if you try and sugest there should be some limits to imigration to your average group of Guardian readers in the pub. I have found some people are incapable of having such a debate.

As for the Royal family, theres no evidence for them carrying out the kind of stuff David Icke talks about but I don't think theres any doubt that they are at the top if not the pinacle of the ruling class. The NWO (World Empire) is an extension of the British Empire, on which the sun never did set but simply went underground with organisations like the Rhodes Scholarship scheme, the Milner Group and then the Royal Institute of International Affairs and so on. If you read The Anglo American Establishment you find that nearly all the movers and shakers are part of the aristocracy related to the British Royal family.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Alex Jones: love him, hate him Reply with quote

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don on the show said he would like to shoot on site illegals crossing at mexican border

alex wishes him godspeed at end of show


Some of this discussion is silly and some of it isn’t. But as a black person who is from the Left, it is relevant to me.

It’s silly because the criticism of Jones is on the basis that he says goodbye to a ‘minute man’, who volunteers to ‘police’ the border against illegal immigrants and the minute man had said he’d like to shoot illegal migrants. Now, I doubt if the minute man would advocate shooting illegal white migrants but Hispanic ones are, presumably, OK. But are we supposed to believe that Alex Jones supports shooting Hispanics who illegally cross the border? Well, I’d say the ‘minute man’ is a loonie. When Alex Jones actually says states that he supports shooting illegal Hispanic migrants, I’ll call him a loonie.

But that’s not to say there isn’t an issue. Alex Jones is a centre-right thinker who is sympathetic to figures who the left and black people abhors. He shares this in common with many in the Truth Movement.

For instance, Lou Dobbs is a TV commentator who is unusual in talking about the North American Union. Alex bigs him up. But Dobbs is reviled by leading black trade unionists because of his attacks on immigrants.

Also, the immigration reports of Alex Jones often goes beyond legitimate criticism of the North American Union. The aim of many of them is to mobilise public hatred or dislike of poor, exploited migrants who illegally cross the border. He recently carried a Daily Mail story about whites who had to get away from the inner cities because they have been ‘flooded’ by (black) migrants!!!

His general view, like that of many in the Truth Movement, is that NWO is a socialist plot. He’s sympathetic to the idea that the NWO uses black people as a means of attacking whites who are suffering from the NWO. Henry Makow, and Jeff Rense are actually far more dangerous and offensive in this regard.

But generally, the Truth Movement does not have a black perspective and almost never looks at the world through the experience of black people. But why is that a surprise? The Left are better at anti-racism but they don’t either.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear there are still some truthers with opinions!
I might listen again to Alex Jones again. There are lots of good things about him, hes generally against the brainswashing and enslavement of human beings and thats got to count for something. I wouldnt be so interested in all this stuff had I not heard his shows or wathced his shows.
Theres a rather large wave of cointelpro and disinfo agent bashing of late and it seems every personality that has some focus bears the brunt of it.

From my experience it seems we should listen to the message, and be wary that noone is perfect.
Keep asking questions and examine all before dismissing it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Re: alex jones berlin wall Reply with quote

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festival of snickers wrote:
did you hear the friday program?

don on the show said he would like to shoot on site illegals crossing at mexican border

alex wishes him godspeed at end of show


"9/11 campaigner is right wing crackpot, shock."

Whatever next!


I called out Alex J ages since. How do you think he was so well informed about 911 before the event?

He is part of an Internationalist conspiracy to delegitimise the government of America. And traitors like the Bushistas with their passsports to Paraguay help in spades. In fact only Kennedy, Nixon and mebbe Carter were not in deep with the criminelite

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Alex Jones: love him, hate him Reply with quote

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But generally, the Truth Movement does not have a black perspective and almost never looks at the world through the experience of black people. But why is that a surprise? The Left are better at anti-racism but they don’t either.


You are absolutely right and I 100% agree with you. The elite are succeeding in dividing us. I would invite you into the lion's den of a US patriot site - they are far too pro-white. They need to see that all races can work together to oust this pyramid of elite control.

Of course, we have to be able to survive the transistion.

PM me if you are interested.

PS the NWO is a COMMUNIST plot.

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During the Babylonian captivity, the Hebrew language spoken by the Jews was replaced by the Aramaic language of their Babylonian captors, which was closely related to Hebrew and, while sharing many vocabulary words in common, contained some words that sounded the same or similar but had other meanings. In Aramaic, the Hebrew word for “blaspheme” used in Leviticus 24:16, “Anyone who blasphemes the name of YHWH must be put to death” carried the meaning of “pronounce” rather than “blaspheme”. When the Jews began speaking Aramaic, this verse was understood to mean, “Anyone who pronounces the name of YHWH must be put to death.” Since then, observant Jews have maintained the custom of not pronouncing the name, but use Adonai (“my Lord [plural of majesty]”) instead. During the first few centuries AD this may have resulted in loss of traditional memory of how to pronounce the Name (except among Samaritans). The Septuagint (Greek translation) and Vulgata (Latin translation) use the word "Lord" (κύριος and dominus, respectively).

The spelling of the Tetragrammaton and connected forms in the Hebrew Masoretic text of the Bible, with vowel points shown in red. (Click on image to enlarge.)
Many Jews will not even use "Adonai" except when praying, and substitute other terms, e.g. HaShem ("The Name") or the nonsense word Ado-Shem, out of fear of the potential misuse of the divine name. In written English, "G-d" is a common substitute.
Parts of the Talmud, particularly those dealing with Yom Kippur, seem to imply that the Tetragrammaton should be pronounced in several ways, with only one (not explained in the text, and apparently kept by oral tradition by the Kohen Gadol) being the personal name of God.
In late Kabbalistic works, t


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

they pretty much make me sick on gcnlive when joyce says yahweh

i bet thats why barry chamish wont come back on the show


Well this is an interesting thread. Are you Jewish yourself? You speak with authority.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emmanuel wrote:
Glad to hear there are still some truthers with opinions!
I might listen again to Alex Jones again. There are lots of good things about him, hes generally against the brainswashing and enslavement of human beings and thats got to count for something. I wouldnt be so interested in all this stuff had I not heard his shows or wathced his shows.
Theres a rather large wave of cointelpro and disinfo agent bashing of late and it seems every personality that has some focus bears the brunt of it.

I agree.

here's a little alex jones humour that somebody pointed out to me over the weekend....

the george dubya bush phonecall mystery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJLvMldMabg

mystery explained (mancow & frank caliendo prank alex jones)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkJhHLjCz4U
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I have to admit, I'm quite an Alex Jones fan.

I understand why others don't like him, though. His patriotism does often spill over into ridiculous ranting and his stance on immigration can sometimes seem a little racist. However, I would suggest that he really does care about freedom and although his analyses aren't perfect - nobody can evaluate the NWO perfectly - he's one of the best radio guns to listen to because of the sheer amount of information he can get through in three hours.

I know many have called him out on his lack of criticism of Israel and in particular the machinations of political Zionism, but I don't believe for a minute that he's been co-opted by the Elite when he's exposing corruption and the New World Order so powerfully. I mean, he never pulls punches when going after Bushco, Bliar, Brown, the Clintons, the CIA etc. A man that goes to Bilderberg meetings and risks arrest and heckles attendees isn't in it for the money or to lie to us. I bleeding well hope not, anyway! If he was pure disinformation then what the hell does the world have in store for us instead?!

Still, I have always wondered why Bill Cooper got iced and Alex is free to rant on on his show every day. For me, there has to be a group of very powerful people either backing Alex Jones (which would be a good thing) or, like he often says, if they assassinated him it would just give credence to his work.

If you're offended by AJ, you don't have to listen. But I would suggest you give him another chance if you've been put off him in the past. Recently he's had Paul Craig Roberts on the show a lot and he's certainly helped me understand the reality of the economic meltdown to a better degree. And he can be really funny at times, too.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After being a big fan of AJ for the past 2 years, I have now seen right thru this guy, AJ is nothing more than a fear/scaremongering agent.
That may not go down well with everyone but I think it's true. Alex Jones lies and garnishes truth with lies and mis-info. Even censers Info and callers to his show, And censers show archives FACT. Rants and raves like a moron which makes all look bad, and sells his stuff harder than any corporation. All FOR THE GREATER GOOD OFC. Fact is Jones scares people more than empowering them.
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Still, I have always wondered why Bill Cooper got iced and Alex is free to rant on on his show every day. Cuz hes an agent hate to say it tho... Sad
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Still, I have always wondered why Bill Cooper got iced and Alex is free to rant on on his show every day. Cuz hes an agent hate to say it tho... Sad


How do you come to such a conclusion? If Alex Jones is a disinfo agent, and he's really working against the Truth Movment, how do you reconcile this with his (mainly) flawless stance on freedom in general. He has exposed how the Rothschilds instigated world wars, how Hitler was used by them, how Communism was created by Marx at their behest, how secret societies control political matters, how 9/11 was an inside job, how gun control is tyrannical, how fluoride in the water is poisonous, how prevalelt vote fraud has become. I could go on all day...

I have a very hard time getting my head around the idea that through exposing so many lies and literally promoting freedom every day through a radio show how a man can be called an 'agent'. Surely he's just trying to open people's minds and wake people up to the dangerous times we live in .

If you provide me with proof - other than still being alive - that AJ is 'working for them', then I'll take a look at it. But I have to say I think some people like to drag his name through the mud because he has become successful and his personality can be abrasive.

Please educate me if you think I'm wrong.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Alex Jones: love him, hate him Reply with quote

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don on the show said he would like to shoot on site illegals crossing at mexican border

alex wishes him godspeed at end of show


Some of this discussion is silly and some of it isn’t. But as a black person who is from the Left, it is relevant to me.

It’s silly because the criticism of Jones is on the basis that he says goodbye to a ‘minute man’, who volunteers to ‘police’ the border against illegal immigrants and the minute man had said he’d like to shoot illegal migrants. Now, I doubt if the minute man would advocate shooting illegal white migrants but Hispanic ones are, presumably, OK. But are we supposed to believe that Alex Jones supports shooting Hispanics who illegally cross the border? Well, I’d say the ‘minute man’ is a loonie. When Alex Jones actually says states that he supports shooting illegal Hispanic migrants, I’ll call him a loonie.

But that’s not to say there isn’t an issue. Alex Jones is a centre-right thinker who is sympathetic to figures who the left and black people abhors. He shares this in common with many in the Truth Movement.

For instance, Lou Dobbs is a TV commentator who is unusual in talking about the North American Union. Alex bigs him up. But Dobbs is reviled by leading black trade unionists because of his attacks on immigrants.

Also, the immigration reports of Alex Jones often goes beyond legitimate criticism of the North American Union. The aim of many of them is to mobilise public hatred or dislike of poor, exploited migrants who illegally cross the border. He recently carried a Daily Mail story about whites who had to get away from the inner cities because they have been ‘flooded’ by (black) migrants!!!

His general view, like that of many in the Truth Movement, is that NWO is a socialist plot. He’s sympathetic to the idea that the NWO uses black people as a means of attacking whites who are suffering from the NWO. Henry Makow, and Jeff Rense are actually far more dangerous and offensive in this regard.

But generally, the Truth Movement does not have a black perspective and almost never looks at the world through the experience of black people. But why is that a surprise? The Left are better at anti-racism but they don’t either.


ive never heard the minutemen or anyone say to shoot anyone, just that big daddy guy did, and jones seemed to make light of it

i think nazi sites have said to shoot -theres some far right site i forgot the name

the cherokees kicked out black ex slaves out of tribe and 25 black congresspeople are trying to cut off cherokee money

those 25 id never vote for -id never vote for obama either

but there are good blacks

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he says true things maybe

he points out too much negative

does he exaggerate? maybe
is he a Christian ? i doubt it or he has false beliefs that are from pride and arrogance in my opinion

heretical stuff

he is a libertarian

make money ,keep it all and don't pay taxes and pretend we are in 1770 or 1790 when only landowners could vote

hes like andrew jackson no weird banks , for the sake of ranting but everywhere there is corruption anyway

there is a pbs show on andrew jackson maybe online that says jackson got rid of a fed reserve type bank but men were scum then killing off indian kids

we were never free

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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During the Babylonian captivity, the Hebrew language spoken by the Jews was replaced by the Aramaic language of their Babylonian captors, which was closely related to Hebrew and, while sharing many vocabulary words in common, contained some words that sounded the same or similar but had other meanings. In Aramaic, the Hebrew word for “blaspheme” used in Leviticus 24:16, “Anyone who blasphemes the name of YHWH must be put to death” carried the meaning of “pronounce” rather than “blaspheme”. When the Jews began speaking Aramaic, this verse was understood to mean, “Anyone who pronounces the name of YHWH must be put to death.” Since then, observant Jews have maintained the custom of not pronouncing the name, but use Adonai (“my Lord [plural of majesty]”) instead. During the first few centuries AD this may have resulted in loss of traditional memory of how to pronounce the Name (except among Samaritans). The Septuagint (Greek translation) and Vulgata (Latin translation) use the word "Lord" (κύριος and dominus, respectively).

The spelling of the Tetragrammaton and connected forms in the Hebrew Masoretic text of the Bible, with vowel points shown in red. (Click on image to enlarge.)
Many Jews will not even use "Adonai" except when praying, and substitute other terms, e.g. HaShem ("The Name") or the nonsense word Ado-Shem, out of fear of the potential misuse of the divine name. In written English, "G-d" is a common substitute.
Parts of the Talmud, particularly those dealing with Yom Kippur, seem to imply that the Tetragrammaton should be pronounced in several ways, with only one (not explained in the text, and apparently kept by oral tradition by the Kohen Gadol) being the personal name of God.
In late Kabbalistic works, t


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

they pretty much make me sick on gcnlive when joyce says yahweh

i bet thats why barry chamish wont come back on the show


Well this is an interesting thread. Are you Jewish yourself? You speak with authority.


i might be a little bit jewish from way back but ive read stuff and talk to jewish friends -im northern European and American indian

google sid roth christian jew

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would anyone like "the left" as in marx?

a nice black guy is guy in tv show sanford and son who became a preacher or little richard

alex is mainly a loudmouth and would probably say he didnt mean he would agree to kill illegals but just build a fence i suppose he may say that

the big daddy on show is some car racing icon so he couldnt bring himself to rebuke him which is stupid

the stuff he says about royal family is all mostly bs i think
prove it!

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