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theninja
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 Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: How to beat the system!! Stop paying your fines now! |
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Read here on how you can use a Statutory Declaration to get your goods back:
http://www.tpuc.org/node/178 |
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telecasterisation
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Bizarre article, I find this bit the most telling;
On Thursday 16th November 2006 I was given a fixed penalty fine for talking on my mobile phone whilst driving by Thames Valley Police. After refusing to pay and asking for a trial to present my case, I heard no more from the police or the court service.
I would be interested to know what his 'case' would be. Twice in the last six months I have watched drivers wander across the central line into the face of oncoming traffic whilst on the phone.
Stop paying your fines now? Far easier not to rack any up in the first place.
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theninja
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| telecasterisation wrote: | Bizarre article, I find this bit the most telling;
On Thursday 16th November 2006 I was given a fixed penalty fine for talking on my mobile phone whilst driving by Thames Valley Police. After refusing to pay and asking for a trial to present my case, I heard no more from the police or the court service.
I would be interested to know what his 'case' would be. Twice in the last six months I have watched drivers wander across the central line into the face of oncoming traffic whilst on the phone.
Stop paying your fines now? Far easier not to rack any up in the first place. |
Yes it's far easier just to be a good slave and do as your told!!! You are missing the point all of these fines are illegal. No one's saying that dropping litter, speeding, using mobile phone etc are good. So you think the Government really care about your safety? It's all about control, and stress you out. |
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telecasterisation
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| theninja wrote: | | Yes it's far easier just to be a good slave and do as your told!!! You are missing the point all of these fines are illegal. No one's saying that dropping litter, speeding, using mobile phone etc are good. So you think the Government really care about your safety? It's all about control, and stress you out. |
A good slave? So you'd be quite happy if someone flytipped on your driveway or took out your family in a head-on at 90mph in a 30mph zone, or simply crossed the white line and on into a bus queue just because their phone rang?
You say 'control' - what control? It obviously doesn't work as I witness the complete lack of any control every single time I make a car journey. Just watch the speed of cars increase once they are past the speed camera, the way people attempt to hide their phone usage whilst driving by acting all posey with their head resting against their hand.
The substance of the offences in question have no basis of control in mind - it is to reduce what we term 'accidents'. Although I was never part of any traffic unit, I saw enough carnage on the road as a serving police officer to know that the major cause of RTA's is;
1) Speed (going faster than you can safely stop in the distance you can see).
2) Driving without due care and attention. In other words, doing someone other than keeping both hands on the wheel and watching the road ahead - combined with point one.
The miniscule number of police cars on the road cannot act as anything more than a tiny deterrent and in my opinion and speaking from experience, there would be vastly less RTA's if people followed the driving rules we have. They are there to reduce 'accidents' (accident = being where the driver has done something usually outside those rules).
I genuinely don't care if the government 'cares' about my safety, but it is undeniable that wearing a motorcycle helmet reduces head trauma in the event of a collision and wearing a seatbelt means you don't exit the car at speed through the windscreen. These things are designed to limit the number of people in intensive care that you and I pay for via taxes.
You have a very strange perspective, one that appears to be completely influenced by this 'power to the people' mentality that encompasses all aspects of legislation as being 'wrong' without any consideration for the real positive benefits of some of it.
Next time you pass a road traffic accident, ask yourself how it happened and could it have been avoided if the rules had been adhered to?
As for the avoidance of fines - can you just precis exactly how this is achieved in a couple of sentences as the article you cite appears intrinsically flawed.
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As a sensible poster said it's all about control. The minuscule number of cop cars won't matter when the entire UK is covered by ever more sophisticated CCTV, not far off now. People will be aware that they are being watched all of the time, it's already happening. Granted they'll only be worried about a fine for mobile phone use or whatever, but it's a short hop from there to spying on people and making them worried about what they say about the government for instance. The gov does not care about public safety, as there are all manner of technologies being wheeled out without proper testing, such as powerful radio masts on schools for instance, vaccines and the like. The tiny number of accidents caused by mobile use is about control as has been pointed out, and nothing else. I would suggest that even raising revenue is a side issue to that of making us all aware that they are watching us.
A friend recently jokingly told me to be careful what I said at the airport when I fly out soon, as if it was a joke that in the UK now we should be careful what we say in a pubic space as we go about entirely lawful business. How soon we all will get used to being careful what we say, what we do, where we go and so on.
Fascism always come by small degrees, usually disguised as something else, like concern for the publics health and safety. |
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