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Six Months Into the Greatest Ever Financial Crash

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Six Months Into the Greatest Ever Financial Crash Reply with quote

Elements of this are extremely interesting.
One part I found funny is that behind every 'great' man is a woman and Dick Cheneys wife is a British spy!! Did anyone else know about this?

Six Months Into the
Greatest Ever Financial Crash

Lyndon LaRouche delivered the following hour-long keynote, and then fielded questions for two more hours at an international webcast from Washington, D.C., sponsored by the LaRouche Political Action Committee on Jan. 17, 2008. The webcast was moderated by LaRouche's national spokeswoman Debra Freeman.

Debra Freeman: Good afternoon. On behalf of the LaRouche Political Action Committee, I'd like to welcome all of you to today's international webcast. As I think many of our listeners may recall, it was approximately six months ago, during a similar webcast, on July 25, that Mr. LaRouche made clear that we were in a situation, not where we were facing an impending financial collapse, but that in fact the financial collapse was under way. Within days of that webcast, Mr. LaRouche was proven absolutely correct, by a chain of events that occurred. On July 28, Countrywide Financial, which is the nation's biggest mortgage lender, announced a 33% drop in profits, and it's been nothing but bad news ever since then. Two days after that, American Home Mortgage, another major lender, which specialized in subprime mortgages, collapsed. By July 31, the subprime mortgage crisis was on the front page of every newspaper in the United States.

Mr. LaRouche was 100% right in forecasting the collapse. He was 100% right, when he said that the collapse had occurred. And here we are, six months later, with the debris from that collapse hitting on a daily basis. As a result of a national and international mobilization, the willingness to deal with that crisis, at least the willingness to admit that that collapse is under way, has begun to permeate political circles. Hillary Clinton's Presidential campaign stands as probably the only Presidential campaign, or at least the only one that I'm aware of, that has been prepared to put this front and center. And while that is useful, they have still failed to address the causes of the crisis, or the real solutions.

I think that today's webcast is one in which Mr. LaRouche, as he has been doing repeatedly at these international webcasts, will provide a pathway, whereby people can gain greater understanding of what it is we are facing, as a nation, as a world, indeed, as a civilization. And I believe, knowing Mr. LaRouche as I do, that he'll also provide a pathway to solving it.

So ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, let me present to you, Lyndon LaRouche.
The Crisis Is Manageable

Lyndon LaRouche: Thank you.

The presentation and discussion which is going to occur now, will be for most of you, one of the most important things in your lives—the issues. Because we are at a point, not of an ordinary crisis, not of a financial crisis, not of a mere depression, but of a global breakdown crisis, centered in the trans-Atlantic community, especially the English-speaking trans-Atlantic community, which will radiate, if it's not stopped, to bring every part of the world into a general breakdown of their respective social systems. This is one of the greatest moments, in terms of importance, in history, since the 14th Century in Europe, with its new dark age, and since similar events, like the collapse of the Roman Empire, or the collapse of the Byzantine Empire: This is the kind of period we're living in. And the danger from this crisis is greater than probably any of the precedents, other than the collapse of the Roman Empire itself.

This is momentarily a collapse. Each day, now, since Jan. 3, the crisis has been expanding in magnitude, at an accelerating rate. What you think is the extent of the crisis today, if the measures I propose are not taken, will become much worse, by an order of magnitude in the next week, and the week after that, and the week after that, until the whole system grinds into a collapse, probably some time during this year. And I'm talking about a global collapse, not a collapse just of the trans-Atlantic English-speaking community. But the thing is centered obviously in the trans-Atlantic English-speaking community. That's where the source of the infection is, from which it spreads. And that's what we have to deal with.

We also have to deal with another problem, apart from an economic problem: a problem of idiocy, which permeates the highest ranks of the Senate, and other locations, among all so-called leading economists, today. There are a few exceptions here and there. But on this question, of this crisis, except for a few people in the woodwork that I know about, there is no public expression of any comprehension of what this crisis is about, or any comprehension of what the remedies are.

Now, let me say, on that point specifically, that the primary crisis before us, immediately, is twofold: On the one hand, it's an international monetary-financial crisis, in which the collapse of the entire world international monetary system could be completed within a time as early as this year, and even sometime earlier in this year, because that's the way human events are. You can not predict the day in which that collapse would occur, but the collapse is already ongoing. And none of the governments in existence today, has any efficient comprehension of adopting measures which would actually deal with this crisis.

The crisis is manageable. It's not simply solvable: You can not simply turn back the clock and get good times back again, where you had them before. But you can bring the thing under control. And the problem I wish to address today, specifically, is the measures of control which the government of the United States and other governments must take now!, if they're going to save civilization. This is doom-time. And often in human history, it was possible up to a certain point, to prevent a civilization from disintegrating into chaos. We're in such a situation now.

But if we don't take the measures, this civilization will collapse into chaos this year. If we understand these measures and are willing to take them, we can manage the crisis, through cooperation among nations, which agree on certain principles. That's always been possible. But if we do not do that, we are living on the brink of one of the great dark ages in all human existence, globally.
'This Is Big-Time'

So: What I'll do in the course of today's remarks—I've portioned things into two sections, because I can anticipate from certain leading circles in our political system and elsewhere, that there will be certain questions addressed to me, through Debbie, which will either identify themselves, or will identify themselves categorically, by their profession or by their interest. But some of them are very highly sensitive, and the questions will come to me, not with their name attached to it, but with the category that they represent involved. And what I'm addressing most immediately, are certain leading political and other circles, inside the United States and internationally, which need to know what I know, and they do not yet know, and to make that clear.

So this is big-time. This is not small-time.

We also have a big problem of a bankruptcy of ideas and mentality among a dominant section of our culture. The more influential part of our upper 20% of family-income brackets are crazy, and corrupt. Especially the generation now between 50 and 65 years of age. That is the generation which is the most disoriented and most corrupt, especially certain influentials.

So therefore, the problem is that some of the people, including in the major press, major publications, mass media generally, and so forth, on this question, are either outrightly lying or incapable of telling the truth, because they couldn't know where to find it. And they are the most influential voices you hear, so far, from the U.S. Senate, from leaders of the House of Representatives—not all leaders, but the ones who are the most vocal and most reported—and from most Presidential candidates. They are all, by my book, idiots, and worse; because their opinions are worse than worthless. If their opinions were to prevail, the whole country will go to Hell; that I can guarantee you.

Therefore, what we're in the process of doing, which I'm particularly in the process of doing, is, being a veteran Presidential campaigner, and of some international significance: I am not running for President, but I am running to create the situation on which the coming President of the United States, if properly selected, will take the steps which are necessary on behalf of the United States, to enter into cooperation on these principles with other nations, and under those conditions, this planet can survive, civilization can survive. We can recover again. This is not as easy as Franklin Roosevelt faced with the Great Depression. This is a much tougher problem, a much more dangerous, deeper corruption than that. And so, the precedents from that period, while valuable to us today as a lesson, are not a prescription by imitation for solving this problem.

The greatest problem we have, is the incumbent President of the United States, and the number of idiots, both Democratic and Republican, in the Congress, including the Senate, who think like they do. That's our biggest problem. Because what we need at this moment, looking back at our history, we are in a moment, that we need a Franklin Roosevelt as President. And what we have as a Presidency today has no resemblance to that, whatsoever. As a matter of fact, the question of species is also in doubt.

So therefore, it requires a special effort. The effort will, however, come in the course of the campaign—a critical point. Because if one or two figures, who are Presidential candidates, or pre-candidates at this point, step forward, as Hillary Clinton has made a step in that direction—if they step forward to take charge of the leadership of the parties going into their Presidential nomination procedures, then they will become a focal point of leadership, to counter the idiot who occupies the White House today. That's our best shot. And people from abroad will observe that, because they will say, "Yes, you have interesting ideas. It would be nice if the United States would do that." But, will the United States do that, considering the idiot we have in the White House today? And with the Cheney hanging around his neck. And with a Speaker of the House, Pelosi, who seems to be owned by a notable fascist, and is doing everything to sabotage what needs to be done to save this nation? And similar problems in the Senate.

So therefore, the first thing we have to address is the fact of a general incompetence in dealing with a specific problem we must solve, and also a massive corruption, political and moral corruption, within relevant parts of the upper 20% of our family-income brackets, notably those in politics. That's our problem.

Therefore, I could say the following, just as an example: You could imagine two politicians trained in economics. They jump out of an airplane, to take a parachute to the ground—but they have forgotten their parachutes. The first one says, "I think we're in for it." The other one says, "Don't believe any of those conspiracy theories. We're going to make it. We'll bounce back." And you'll get that from a lot of them, today.
The British Empire 'Slime-Mold'

Now, let's go back in American history to a point, which should be a point of reference today—it doesn't contain the solution, but it contains the suggestion of what the solution might be: Franklin Roosevelt, as President. Franklin Roosevelt as President saved the United States, by returning the United States to its Constitution. Measures by Roosevelt were in accord with the principle of the Constitution. The Presidents who preceded him, since the assassination of McKinley, including Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt, Hoover, Coolidge, so forth, had actually been the enemies of the best interests of the United States, operating from the top level of the United States.

The problem that Roosevelt faced, was a problem of the British Empire. Now, the British Empire is not really a monarchy. It's a slime-mold: That is, it is a collection—and this has been the case since the beginning of the British Empire in 1763, with the Peace of Paris—an international financier cartel, largely of Anglo-Dutch denomination, but essentially bankers in the Venetian tradition, a slime-mold. They kill each other by night, and they gang up together against the human race in the morning. This is the type.

In 1763, this slime-mold, this international financial gang, took over Britain, at a time that Britain had been the victor in a war it orchestrated, called the Seven Years' War. What Britain had done, which is typical Liberal practice, is to defeat all its rivals on the continent of Europe, by inducing them to make war against each other. So Britain sat back, while Russia, and France, and Prussia, and other countries, fought each other, and came down in ruins, with the Peace of Paris, in which the British came in and collected the remains. It was the British East India Company, who collected the remains. The British monarchy is not the controlling force inside the British Empire. The controlling force is a slime-mold, called the Anglo-Dutch Liberal financial establishment. They run the empire. They are not necessarily British citizens; they're often Dutch, they are French, they're Venetian, they're New York bankers. George Shultz, for example, the guy who sank the Roosevelt monetary system, is part of this. He's a fascist. So's Rohatyn. Rohatyn's a fascist. It's not a term, it's a species designation.

And what we're faced with today, and with the Bloomberg game, is the attempt to establish a Presidency of the United States, under Bloomberg and Schwarzenegger (whose father gave him fascist credentials by birth) to establish a dictatorship in the United States, modelled immediately on that which was used by the British to create Mussolini as a dictator in Italy, the same British circles which put Hitler into power in Germany. This is the problem. We are faced with a threat of tyranny beyond belief, by this crowd. And this is what the British Empire is: It's the Anglo-Dutch Liberal system, which is a system of international finance, which in respect to each other are predatory. They eat each other, and they eat each other's children. But then, they gang up against all of the rest of us, and play us for fools.

For example, who started the war in Iraq, the last war in Iraq, that's now still ongoing? It was done by the Tony Blair government of England. Tony Blair orchestrated it. Remember the case of David Kelly? The key figure inside the United States was Dick Cheney, but not really Dick; it's his wife. His wife is the one who picked him out of the swamp, got him jobs, got him positions, and she's the terror who runs him. She's a British agent, a Fabian, part of the Fabian Society, the same thing that Tony Blair represents. So, you had American accomplices of the British Empire—which is not the British monarchy, it's the slime-mold of British or Anglo-Dutch finance—orchestrated a war in Iraq, in Southwest Asia, to destroy the United States by inducing it to destroy itself! Just in the same way that the Anglo-Dutch Liberals set up, in the early part of the 18th Century, a war called the Seven Years' War, in which the powers of Continental Europe chopped at each other. And the British came in and collected the remains, the Anglo-Dutch Liberals.

In our midst—if you think that Felix Rohatyn is an advisor to any leading figure, you should fire that leading figure, should be fired from office, particularly from the position of Speaker of the House. Because they represent a danger to the United States, as great as a traitor in a high position during warfare. She, under the influence, is a poor patsy, a poor, dumb patsy, controlled by Felix Rohatyn, who has done the most to destroy the United States House of Representatives, during her term of service, since she gained that position. These are the kinds of problems we face.
Roosevelt Used the Constitution To Save the U.S.A.

Now, go back to, again as I said, to Roosevelt: Roosevelt came into the Presidency at a point that we hadn't had—with the exception of Taft, in a sense, and Harding, who were questionable figures—we hadn't had an honest President since the British killed McKinley, in order to bring Teddy Roosevelt into the Presidency. Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Coolidge, Hoover, so forth, were problems. We were almost destroyed by this. We were still a powerful nation at that time; we were almost destroyed.

Roosevelt came along. Now, Roosevelt was a descendant of a New York banker by the name of Isaac Roosevelt, who had been a collaborator of Alexander Hamilton, in his time. And Roosevelt did not stumble around, and did not innovate in some curious manner, did not violate the Constitution, but he used the Constitution precisely, and followed it, in order to organize an effort to save the United States from itself, and from what previous Presidents had done to the United States. He saved the United States. He did more than save the United States: At the time he came in, the British ruling class, including the British monarchy itself, had not only put Mussolini into power in Italy, but had put Hitler into power in Germany. Who created Hitler? It was not Germans, it was Brits. They organized it. They insisted upon it.

When Roosevelt became President, this underwent some degree of change. Roosevelt took emergency measures which were based on the U.S. Constitution. And today, we should follow exactly those precedents that Roosevelt used then, that are constitutional precedents. His constitutional conceptions are constitutional. What exists now, as a so-called "constitutional" interpretation of these matters, is not constitutional: It is something imported from abroad. This is not our Constitution.

Remember, our Constitution is derived, primarily, immediately, from the 1648 Treaty of Westphalia, the Peace of Westphalia. This was the foundation of a commitment among nations to the modern, sovereign nation-state by those nations, in 1648. This ended a long period of religious warfare, which had been induced by Venetian interests, from 1492, the Expulsion of the Jews from Spain, by the Grand Inquisitor, through the end of the war in Europe in 1648, the Thirty Years' War.

This agreement, prompted by a great Cardinal Mazarin, from France—actually an Italian, but he was stuck in there by the Pope—and this agreement on the Peace of Westphalia, on the "benefit of the other," that each people and each nation must devote itself primarily to the benefit of other nations, and by doing so, to create a bond among nations, in cooperation among nations, by which these kinds of problems can be cured.

We can not eliminate the nation-state; we do not need a Tower of Babel. Because the ability of a people to govern itself depends upon its culture. And without that culture, a people can not be self-governing. So therefore, you can not impose law upon nations, simply by just imposing law upon them. You must work through the culture of that nation, the culture of its people, and have their willful consent to cooperation of the type needed to fulfill the intentions specified by the 1648 Peace of Westphalia.

This is embedded in our Constitution, in the citation from Leibniz, in the Declaration of Independence: the "pursuit of Happiness," which was Leibniz's attack on the Liberal theory. Liberalism is not U.S. philosophy, not constitutional philosophy: Liberalism is rejected in U.S. constitutional philosophy. This principle of the "pursuit of Happiness" which Benjamin Franklin and others took from a book by Leibniz, was expressed as the great Preamble of our Constitution, the so-called Bill of Rights. And this principle of our Preamble is our fundamental law. And that is the law which is the interpretation imposed on every other aspect of our constitutional system. The Preamble of the Constitution is our fundamental law! Which expresses, echoes the Declaration of Independence, but is our constitutional law, as a Federal Republic. Every other part of the Constitution is subject to interpretation according to the specifications of that Preamble. That's our law. That was the law understood by Franklin Roosevelt.
The Federal Power of Bankruptcy

We also have another feature of our Constitution, which is different than anything you find in Europe, or at least in western and central Europe: We do not believe in monetary systems, constitutionally. The United States system is not constitutionally a monetary system. European systems are monetary systems, based on parliamentary government. There is no moral principle controlling. There are moral principles adopted in constitutions in Europe, but the essential thing is not there. In the U.S. Constitution, the creation of money, and the regulation of money is a function of the Federal government. The issuance of money is done by the consent of the House of Representatives, and enacted by the Treasury Department, under the direction of the President. It is unlawful to create money, or a form of money, in the United States, except by the Federal government, and except according to this principle, this constitutional principle. We are not a monetary system! Not constitutionally. We are a Federal Republic, and we have a credit system, which is based upon the constitutional principle reflected in our system of the creation of credit.

We also have, under the same term, as a Federal government, the power of bankruptcy. And this power of bankruptcy is very important at this time, because without exerting it, you're not going to save the United States. And if you can't save the United States, you're not going to save the rest of the world.

That means: That most of the outstanding debt, represented by financial interests, as claims upon the United States, its territories, and its people, will be put by the Federal government, into bankruptcy receivership. What should be paid, in the short term, will be paid. What should be supported in the short term, will be supported. But those sums we can not afford to pay, we shall not pay. We shall proceed under bankruptcy law, under our Federal law, to put the entire system, of money and related things, into receivership. If we do that, other countries will do it, too.

Now, what I've proposed, as you know, is that four powers in this planet must come together to share a policy, an initiative, which will save this planet from a general collapse. These four powers are, the United States (despite the idiot in the White House now); Russia, China, and India. Because, if these four nations agree on a relevant policy, not only will other nations join them, automatically, other nations, which are smaller nations, will join them in common interest. But we will solve the problem. We can organize a recovery of the world economic system, by reorganization of its financial system. We will return to a principle, if we agree among these nations, under which the same principle that applies to the U.S. Constitution, in terms of money, applies there: We will create a fixed-exchange-rate system, echoing what Roosevelt intended before he died—and I'll explain what that significance, "before he died" is.

We will therefore have a system under which loans outstanding can not fluctuate in the interest rates upon them, but will be kept within payable limits. Because, in general with the world economy as it is today, if the interest rate on long-term loans exceeds 2%, you're going to have a collapsed economy. Because you can not afford, in today's productivity, to have higher rates of interest in general, for long-term capital and related improvements. Therefore, you must have a fixed-exchange-rate system. That does not mean a gold-based system, but it does mean that we probably would do the same thing with gold that Roosevelt did with gold: We will consider it, not as a monetary asset, but as a means for settling accounts among sovereign national powers. And thus, to use that power, to maintain a counter-inflationary stability in long-term investments among nations.

If we don't do that, if we're unwilling to do just exactly that, there is no chance that the world civilization as we know it, in its present organized form, will continue to exist, as long as the remainder of this year. Because the rate of acceleration of decadence, of collapse, that is now built into the system, will accelerate to such a degree, that we can not determine on what date the system disintegrates, but it will be soon.
Mobilizing the Base

So the question is: Can we find in the United States, in particular, can we find a group of people, especially leading figures, who will come together to do what I have prescribed on this account?

Now what we're doing right now, we are mobilizing the base: The problem has been, that since the corruption from the top down, in the Senate and the House of Representatives, the corruption typified by that expressed by Nancy Pelosi, the stooge for the fascist Felix Rohatyn, that has prevented the Houses of Congress from functioning. They don't function. There are people in there who would like to function. There are good people in there, but they don't function. Because the system of "go along to get along" doesn't permit them to function properly under these conditions. With proper leadership in the Senate, and proper leadership in the House, yes, they would function. We've got to, first of all, change the Speaker of the House, right away. Otherwise, you don't care much about the United States. If you care about the United States, you will say that she needs to go, into some peaceful retirement, where her limited mental powers will find a proper realization.

So, thus, in this way, we had to go to a lower income-bracket section of the population. We went to the states and localities, working on the state level, to campaign for an action, which I prescribed, which if it is not implemented exactly as I have prescribed, means the doom of the nation. This is the Homeowners and Bank Protection Act. If that act is not instituted, in exactly the method I have specified, without changes, the system won't survive: We're finished.

Now, what we have now, is a growing mass support in the base of the population, on the state level, for that act. That the people in the Senate and the Congress are increasingly aware of the pressure coming from the states, in our mobilization for support of this act—to be implemented precisely as I have prescribed, without changes.

Why? Let me explain this act: The bankruptcy of homeowners, or nominal homeowners, can not be allowed. And we can not solve the problem by selective bailouts of some people. It won't work. You have to have a national freeze on foreclosures. Now, that has been picked up by some political figures, such as Bill Clinton and his wife. And so far, that's good. But that's not enough, as I think they know. You also have to protect the bankers simultaneously, and in the same act. Why? Because mortgages, if they're legitimate, and orderly mortgages, not some kind of fly-by-night thing, are related to banks: to chartered banks, to chartered Federal banks, to chartered state banks. These banks are now in danger of collapse and liquidation.

Therefore, you can not simply suspend these mortgages by themselves: You've got to put the banks under protection, in exactly the same act! If you don't put the bank under protection, your attempt to defend the mortgages will do no good. And if you allow the thing to continue, where the banks are being chewed up, now—by disreputable things that should be written off entirely—are being looted. As in the recent round of trying to buy out some of these hedge-fund operations which should not have been saved. They should be collapsed! Write them off the books! They're not worth anything.

We've got to save the homeowners. We've got to keep them in their houses. We've got to keep the communities stable. We've got to protect the local banks. Because, if the local, regular banks, the honest banks, are not able to conduct business, the whole economy of any part of the country will proceed to disintegrate! If you are not prepared to defend the homeowners, and the banks, the legitimate banks, in the same Federal act of bankruptcy, using bankruptcy law as the means of doing it, you aren't worth anything! And you should stop talking. Stop babbling. That's the only way you can save this system.

That is not all that's required. If we stabilize the United States politically, by the Homeowners and Bank Protection Act, then we open the door for the next required steps, which is to change national policy, probably in this time I would change it through leading pre-Presidential candidates. What you need, is an organizing voice, or more organizing voices, to get something moving behind this. If leading candidates defend the Homeowners and Bank Protection Act, as prescribed, we can save this nation. But that's only the first step towards saving this nation.
Europe Needs a Lender of Last Resort

The next step is to proceed on the international level. And that means, the President of the United States has to go to Russia, to China, and to India, and to other countries, and to propose a treaty agreement, a draft treaty agreement, which is equitable, which establishes a fixed-exchange-rate system. And this will probably bring nearly everybody in, if you do it.

For example, in Europe, as my wife has explained to people—she's German, and she knows about Germany, which many Germans don't; but she also has her contact with German experts and French experts and so forth—and has been conducting a discussion, an intensive discussion, on the question of the Lender of Last Resort. Now, the reason that Continental Europe is absolutely doomed today, under its present conditions, is there is no lender of last resort under the Maastricht Treaty and implementation. You have to reverse and cancel the Maastricht Treaty, to save Europe! And all it takes is a couple of countries who are key countries, to break out of the Maastricht Treaty, and it will disintegrate of its own accord.

In that case, then Germany, Italy, France, and so forth, will be forced to return to the principle of the lender of last resort, which is their own national government, their own constitutional government. Once they agree to return to this principle, then we can talk to Russia, to China, and India, in terms of long-term trade agreements, we're talking about 25-to-50-year trade agreements, for infrastructure, all these kinds of things. And we can have a program of expansion of the economy, development, which will give us a perspective of long-term recovery.

Once we decide, under treaty agreements of that sort, that we are going to survive, over the coming 50 years, then we shall survive. Because we will then make the decisions and be able to make the agreements which enable us to accomplish the common aims of mankind. And that's our function on that account.

Now, there are several things that have to be dealt with to clean up the garbage which is left over from the past. Go back to FDR. Now, there are two views of what the Bretton Woods Agreement was. One view, which is little known today, is the intention of Franklin Roosevelt, and that intention was very clearly declared, repeatedly, by Franklin Roosevelt, while he was President, especially during the war: President Roosevelt's intention for the Bretton Woods system, was a breakup of the British Empire. Roosevelt was committed—as I was at the time, I was in military service at the time—he was committed to the liberation of all territories from colonial occupation or oppression; and also the elimination of what we call semi-colonialism. That was his intention.

The British, and Winston Churchill, had a fit about that. And as soon as we had breached the wall in France, in the invasion of Continental Europe, immediately, those banking interests, in London and in the United States—like the Harriman bank, which had initially put Hitler into power in Germany, and also had put Mussolini into power in Italy—these banks, which had created Fascism, on the continent of Europe, with the participation of certain U.S. bankers, Wall Street bankers of the same type which I'm fighting today, like Shultz, and Harriman, and so forth—these guys made a right turn. And the British policy was to prevent the war from being won too quickly at that point.

Therefore, the war was sabotaged. For example, you had a General Montgomery, who was probably the worst commander in World War II, who ran an operation with the First Army, which screwed everything up, and prolonged the war for at least six to seven months. Other things were done, to try to eliminate the Roosevelt perspective for the post-war world. And the issue was largely expressed between Churchill and Roosevelt. Roosevelt would talk to Churchill, and say, "Winston! We are not going to do this! We're not going to put up with this any more! We're going into a world without colonialism, without people being oppressed by other people. We're going to the American System, of the conception of independent, sovereign nation-states. And every people has to have the right to have a development, a self-development, of a sovereign nation-state."

Oh! Churchill wanted none of that! He was out to defend the British Empire. So, as soon as Roosevelt was safely dead, Churchill's friends—take the case of Indo-China: Indo-China had won its independence in warfare, under Ho Chi Minh. Ho Chi Minh had been cooperating with the United States in that struggle. With Roosevelt now dead, the British ordered the Japanese to come out of the prison camps where they had been held in Indo-China, to be re-armed, and to occupy the country which had just been liberated from them. And the entire history of the Indo-China War since that time, was that creation.

A similar operation was run in Indonesia. There was a very effective liberation movement in Indonesia against the Dutch imperialism. The British backed that, with armed forces, a war that went on for some time, and created the mess which we suffer still today.

Similar things were done in the split-up of India, in the Pakistan-India split—and it was a horrible scene to see, the way it occurred. This was done, by the British.

Africa was given liberation, but not liberation: They were given the title to liberation, but no power to run their countries. Similar kind of thing.

Similar efforts were made in Central and South America. So that when this Bretton Woods agreement was presented, by Franklin Roosevelt, the intention had been to use the power of the U.S. military, that is the economic power, to convert the military power into economic power, for machine tools and similar kinds of development, to assist not only war-ravaged Western Europe, but also the nations which had been colonized or semi-colonized, to be liberated and developed, by converting the war-production capability of the United States to a peace-production capability, for the needs of these people. We proposed to make a world free of imperialism and its vestiges. That was Roosevelt's policy.

When Roosevelt died, immediately, Truman, who was an agent of the British in terms of his connections, moved to sabotage everything that Roosevelt had represented, in terms of this post-war policy of decolonization. The post-war policy of the Truman Administration was re-colonization. A British policy of recolonization.
FDR's Bretton Woods System Was Anti-British

Now, despite these changes, the United States continued on its internal economic policy, in the same direction, until the assassination of President Kennedy. And it was not just the assassination of President Kennedy that was key, it was the fact that his successor, Johnson, was terrified. And because Johnson was terrified, Johnson supported the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which got us into the Indo-China War.

The Indo-China War, a long war, like the Peloponnesian War, destroyed the United States, or destroyed the United States' economy, and so undermined it, that in 1971, the Bretton Woods system disintegrated under Nixon.

Now, the other view of the Bretton Woods system was that of Keynes. Keynes was at the 1944 conference of the Bretton Woods convention, and did submit a proposal. Now, people who don't know their history, will say that the Bretton Woods system was designed by Keynes. Not so. The Bretton Woods system was an anti-British, anti-colonialist position. What happened with the death of Roosevelt, was that Truman and Co., were able with their fascist friends in New York, like the Harrimans and so forth—the same people who had put Hitler into power earlier—to turn it into the "Keynesian" alternative. So therefore, Roosevelt's Bretton Woods system is made clear by his own testimony: This was an anti-colonialist system. The Keynesian system was a colonialist copy.

But nonetheless, despite the fact that this was merely a colonialist copy, in the United States, we maintained, internally, an economic system which was very much like the intention of Roosevelt. We maintained that up until the death of Kennedy, when things began to go bad at the time, after Kennedy had been killed. So therefore, today, when people say the "Keynesian system," that's a way of covering up the fact of this.

So, we maintained a protectionist economy, up through Kennedy, up through Kennedy's Presidency, and lost it rapidly after that point, especially after 1968.

Then, in 1971, we lost our honor; we lost everything. The British took over, through George Shultz, the same George Shultz who, in the same period of time, put a fascist dictator, Pinochet, into power in South America, in Chile. The same George Shultz who owns Schwarzenegger today (whose father was a real Nazi), who ran a Nazi-aided operation in the Southern Cone of Americas during the first half of the 1970s. And has not improved his morals since that time—or Schwarzenegger's either.

So this is what the issue is. We had a system, which is the Roosevelt Constitutional system, for decolonization of the world. Now if we look at things today, look at Asia and Africa, and the struggles in South America and Central America, you see a similar situation. The mission, the long-term mission for humanity now, if we get out of this crisis, is to fix this problem: We have large populations in Asia, most of whom are extremely poor. By their own unaided means, they could not solve the problems as they must be solved. However, with international cooperation, long-term cooperation, long-term agreements, the development of infrastructure, the development of other things needed. For example: The need for the thorium cycle of fission power, in India. India's a very poor country. It has some people in it, who are not so poor. But 70% are desperately poor, and their condition of life is worsening. Without thorium-cycle nuclear power, India can not in practice recover from this mess.

China has a similar problem. It has certain technological progress, certain achievements, but it also has vast needs of development. This requires nuclear power; it requires cooperation in infrastructure. It requires long-term agreements. The same thing is true of all of these countries, of the world. We need these long-term agreements, which must be treaty agreements, based on a fixed-exchange-rate system, like that of Franklin Roosevelt's design for the Bretton Woods system. That's what's required. And therefore, what we do is move from an act like the Homeowners and Bank Protection Act, to stabilize the U.S. economy sufficiently, to begin to move on the other things, to give us the room to move on the other things we must move to—including immediate long-term agreements, starting no later than January of the coming year, with the nations I indicated: the United States, Russia, China, and India. We must have a long-term agreement, or series of treaty agreements, with those and with other nations, which govern the way we are going to develop this planet economically, for the future of humanity! For a thousand or two thousand years to come.

Defending the principle of sovereignty of a people, because a people has embedded in its culture, its language, or the use of its language, it has the deeper aspects of mentation. A people that's denied that, and is supposed to speak an argot, moving from one country to another, and speaking some kind of a pidgin—they lack that cultural continuity of development, and the people are turned into virtual slaves, or approximations of that. So, we know that we must maintain national sovereignty, national cultural sovereignty among nations. And therefore, national sovereignty must be expressed in terms of cooperation among sovereigns, to develop long-term agreements on common objectives, for up to a thousand years or so to come. That's what we require.

And that is what should be laid on the table of the next President of the United States, properly selected.
LaRouche's 'Triple Curve'

Now, let's go to the first of these Triple Curves, to explain where I come in on this thing [Figure 1]. This was something which I first produced, actually in the end of 1995, and published for the first time in January of 1996. It was published as a feature of my pre-Presidential election campaign that year. And what it describes is the actuality at that time, of the U.S. financial-economic situation. The three values are simply: You have the issue of money, Monetary Aggregate, issued by governments or by other means, other agencies. You have also then, the generation of Financial Assets, as distinct from just simply money assets, which are related to monetary assets. You also then must compare this with the per-capita, per-square-kilometer productive powers of labor, in physical terms, including infrastructure, as well as other aspects of productivity.

Now, what has been happening, especially at an accelerating rate, since 1971 in particular, and at an accelerated since 1987, since October of 1987, has been an increasing decrease of the physical output per capita of the population of the United States, per capita and per square kilometer. What has been happening at the same time, is this has been sustained, as especially under Greenspan, by an accelerating rate of monetary emission. The U.S. government, in various forms, has been extending the emission.

Now the emission has been used by a multiplier factor, which is insane, to increase the rate of financial aggregates outstanding. So now, you see an accelerating rate of financial aggregates' growth, relative to an accelerating rate of decline of physical production. For example: infrastructure. The New York streets, for example, under Bloomberg. The New York streets are collapsing under Bloomberg. Maybe it's an expression of their dislike for the man!

Now then, we come to a second one, a second case, which I published in 2000 [Figure 2]. There was a change that occurred that time, in which the United States entered into a long-term, deep, depression. This happened before George Bush was able to pollute the White House, that is, George Bush, Jr. But what had happened was, you had the rate of monetary aggregates, that you had to generate to sustain the financial explosion, and financial aggregates expanded. So, as a result of that, with a continued collapse of the physical output, per capita and per square kilometer, you had entered into a collapse phase of the U.S. economy, a terminal collapse phase. So, by the time Bush came in, as President, in January of 2001, the United States economy was already doomed under its existing policy. It was doomed to collapse at an accelerating rate, over the period of the decade. And it did.

That's the problem we have to fix. We have a bankrupt system, which is inherently bankrupt, in which the amount of monetary aggregate being generated to bail out, as you see the bailouts occurring today, to bail out an inflated, explosive mass of financial aggregate, has reached the point that it is now going to accelerate at such a rate, that the question is, whether the U.S. economy, under its present policies, will outlive this current year. People who think they have money, are going to find they don't have any. People who thought they had vast savings, will find out they don't have any. That's the kind of world we're living in.

And idiots out there, are saying, we're going to induce a palliative to some homeowners, we're going to "stimulate the economy." "Stimulate?" What's that mean? More monetary aggregate! That's like putting more fuel in the fire, in the forest fire! The worst thing you can do. You have to go back to the Roosevelt idea, the Roosevelt conception. Put the system under bankruptcy, put it under control, and some things will have to go into negotiation, and some things will be paid; and that decision will be made on the nature of national interest and human interest, and human rights. That's our only chance.

Now, most people have a problem with this, including people who may be asking questions not too distant from now. "I don't understand it," they will say. "I don't understand what you see." "Won't it be sufficient...?"

Now, the problem we have: We have two kinds of people who are ignorant of economics: those who are honestly ignorant, and those who are inherently dishonest. And the latter outnumber the former. In other words, "How can I cheat?" This is Economics 101 today: "How Can I Cheat?" Not "How Can I Earn?" Well, we abolished earning: We shut down our factories, we stopped building our infrastructure, we shut down our farmers. We allowed Al Gore, who was reputed to have been eaten by a polar bear—which likes fat. Polar bears like fat. They see a guy walking up there, with fat, "This guy, what a fat head! He must be fat all over. We'll eat him!"

But, these kinds of ideas of sophistry, the same kind of sophistry in an extreme form, which sank ancient Greece under Pericles, the same kind that we're repeating today. This is our problem. And as a result of the popularity of sophistry: "All my friends tell me...."
The Human Mind Is Not Digital

Well, let me take one more little side issue, because it's so crucial to understand this problem, which most people don't. Let's take computer games. Killer computer games. What's the difference between a man and a monkey? And how does this apply to understanding computer games? Because computer games are designed on the basis of two things: First of all, they were designed to kill; they were designed to train a mass of the population, and retrain soldiers, as killers, who would shoot more often and at more people. And it worked! In order to train soldiers to kill more profusely, they invented games; they went to the computer industry to produce games, which are point-and-shoot training games. Then, late in the 1990s, when the subsidies to the computer industry were collapsing, under the previous arrangement, then, the computer industry, which otherwise would have gotten suddenly poor, went into mass production of the computer killer-game industry.

They produced this killer wave: We are on the verge of having suicide-prone mass-killers, just like you talk about in the Middle East, inside the United States. These mass-killers will be from our own youth, and they will be from youth who have been indoctrinated in playing computer games. And those who produce these games, are fully aware of this. And our study of case-histories shows that the secret of these games is, the children don't play the games. The games play the children.

One of my experiences earlier in life—oh, a quarter-century ago, or more; back in the 1960s, actually—was, I had been an old chess player. And I got away from it, because I got bored with the game, couldn't stand it any more. I went to all the games. I didn't win tournaments, but I was a blindfold chess player, simultaneous blindfold chess, all these kinds of tricks which I was good at, when I was younger and quicker. But then I said, "I gotta change." So, I looked at the game of "Go." And after a little too much playing the game of Go, I realized what it does to your mind—and I said, "never again!"

Now, the game of Go does not have a bad intention as such. It has a negative effect on the mind. But it does not have a bad intention. Killer games have a bad intention. And the intention which is built into the design of the games, is that you think that the person is playing the game on the Internet? Uh-uh! The game is playing him! And the firm that runs the game, and monitors it, is playing him! Or her.

So the point is, first of all, it has all the defects of Go, with all the necessary moral failures added. Kill! Kill! Game ends! Game ends! Game ends! Die!

When does game end? When the law enforcement agency or other official comes on the scene—and you stop killing the people, and kill yourself. That's exactly what happened in Virginia, exactly that.

And all the time this is happening, the companies that run the games on the Internet, are monitoring the games. They're coaching the games. Controlling and manipulating the minds of the players!

You have also a similar effect on MySpace, another mass-brainwashing operation produced by the digital industry. Facebook, another one, and so on and so forth. We're seeing the development of mass terrorism potential, inside the United States, based on these games! And the effect in the United States will be comparable to what we have in Southwest Asia, as so-called terrorism. But coming from inside the United States, generated, and monitored, and controlled by computer companies that manage these games, while the poor suckers who are playing them are being managed.

We allow it.

The other aspect of this thing, which is what I refer to in this case, is that the human mind is not digital. There is no digital mathematics that can represent the processes of the human mind, as distinct from those of a monkey. The human mind is creative by virtue of functions we associate only with analog devices. Creativity, as expressed by a human mind, corresponds generally to an analog function. We've done some work on that.

In the case of economics—coming back to that: in economy today, what is taught as economics, is Cartesian kinematics, a projection, a statistical projection. There are virtually no competent economists engaged in long-term forecasting—none! But many incompetent ones! And every one is wrong. Because it does not correspond to human behavior.

Human behavior is creative. Look at yourself. Now stand next to a picture of a gorilla or a chimpanzee. Or a baboon if you prefer. And say, "what's the difference between me, and a baboon, and a gorilla, or a chimpanzee? What do I do? I can think."

"Well, prove that."

Well, what is the population-density of baboons, chimpanzees, and gorillas. How many millions per square kilometer can you have, of chimpanzees, baboons, and gorillas? Now, what is the rate of growth of world population, per capita and per square kilometer of the human species? What's the difference? The difference is discoveries, which take two forms: of scientific principle, physical scientific principles, and Classical artistic principles. And these things enable human beings to increase the potential of the human species, as no other living creature can do.

This power comes as a result of what we call creativity, which does not exist in any digital system. But the only way you can represent it, mathematically, is by analog systems. That does not cause it, but it's capable of reflecting that.

So the point today, is people are living in a digital society, whose deleterious effects are enhanced, increased, by the role of these games, and similar kinds of entertainment. Look at the attention span of a young kid, 16-to-25 years of age! What is the typical attention span? What is it, 30 seconds? 15 seconds? Strictly as a result of MySpace. Take a MySpace addict, a typical MySpace addict: What is the length of their concentration span, measurable? What is the length of concentration span of a game player, on a killer game? These guys are babblers! They have no concentration span, whatsoever.

So we're destroying a section of a population, by destroying their minds, destroying their mental capacities, and turning them potentially into mass killers. And this is what our policy is.
It Is Time for a Global Peace of Westphalia

And this is the way we teach economics. Gore is typical of this. Gore is an exemplification of evil. Why? Because he denies the existence of creativity. For example, the case of India. He says he's for reducing carbon emissions—it doesn't mean a damned thing. He doesn't know what he's talking about! But! What does he mean? He's against the development of the fission process, for thorium-fission cycle. The thorium-fission cycle, using a material called thorium, which is rather abundant in India, used in proper devices, can be placed locally to provide power in locations, to improve water management and do a lot of other things. So the people of India require a very large increase of this process, set into motion. And to do this, you have to have a nuclear reaction which charges the thorium—which is not military problem at all—which thus gives the local village and so forth the ability to have a nuclear plant which provides what it can't get otherwise: freshwater.

Take for example, the Deccan in southern India: In southern India, the supplies of water have depended for long time, on drawing down fossil water! Now fossil water in southern India, in the Deccan region, means water which was put down there before the beginning of the Ice Age, 2 million years ago, the first ice age we know of. So, fossil water, which has been buried there for 2 million years, is now the recommended resource, for providing water for a village in southern India. It's crazy. With a nuclear plant, on the coast—and India has a very small area, relative to the coastline—near the coast, you can produce from seawater, you can produce freshwater in quantities, and economically, for these people. And improve the conditions of life.

So the United States government, in its infinite lack of wisdom, has tried to ban the thorium cycle from use in India, along with the British. So, the point is that humanity progresses through technological progress, and so forth.

What we represent as the American System is this: Europe has a very special kind of quality. Remember that about 19-20,000 years ago, we had great ice ages, all over the northern hemisphere, not every part of it, but a lot of it. Ice was thick, habitation was poor. The most advanced cultures were maritime cultures, people sailing in flotillas of boats, using astronavigation, to go large distances, up to 1,000 miles or so, or 2,000 miles, across oceans, or down oceans, from one place of residence to another place of residence, as the seasons change. And we know of these things, because through the study of astronomy, we recognize that some of these astronomical cycles which are built into the calendars are of that character: that only a society which was based on astronavigation, a maritime culture, could possibly have generated these features of those calendars: 25,000 years, 50,000 years, 200,000 years. Long-range calendars for cycles.

So in this process, the Mediterranean area and its adjoining areas became developed, as a maritime culture. This happened over thousands of years, but what we know of most of it, started about 700 B.C. with the emergence of an alliance among Egypt—that is, the case of Egypt, the Etruscans, and the Ionians, against Tyre. And this process led to the development of European civilization, which had a promising start, but kept being destroyed by empires, or the development of European empires, such as those of the Romans, or the Byzantine Empire, or the empire of the Venetians of the medieval period; and the attempted modern empire.

The issue has always been, in European civilization, in particular, that the tendency has been by oligarchs, to degrade the lower 80% or more of the family-income brackets of a population to virtual animals, by denying them access to the process of developing creativity and new discoveries. This was the issue posed by Aeschylus in his great Prometheus Trilogy and other writings. We take the distinction of mankind from the animal, which is the creative powers of the human mind, which don't exist in any animal, which the strength of humanity lies in there, and we suppress that in large parts of populations, with various kinds of oppression—colonial and other oppression.

So we take a society which had the most advanced power in the planet, which was European society as it developed in recovery from the dark age of the middle of the 14th Century; we corrupt it by things like the Grand Inquisitor, and the emergence of Liberalism, and the creation of empires based on Liberalism. And we subject the entire planet to this cruelty. And we call that, "the way things are." We call that, "common sense."

The time has come when the requirements of maintaining humanity, the technological requirements and scientific requirements are such, that humanity can no longer exist under what has been the practice of much of European civilization over the period to date. We must take what we resolved in Europe in 1648, the Peace of Westphalia, and commit ourselves to the entirety of the human race, to all of it: It has the rights which are granted to Europeans among themselves by the Peace of Westphalia.

So, that, to bring things to this close, as I presume the questions'll be pouring in shortly, is what I have to say today.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: You hit the Nail on the Head Reply with quote

I read on Thursday which is now in America at 8RazzM on Yahoo about the housing sump being close to 1929. Well Alex Jones in Austin Texas told us today that the Resession in the United States is going to be worst. More on this later. www.prisonplanet.com
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The issue has always been, in European civilization, in particular, that the tendency has been by oligarchs, to degrade the lower 80% or more of the family-income brackets of a population to virtual animals, by denying them access to the process of developing creativity and new discoveries. This was the issue posed by Aeschylus in his great Prometheus Trilogy and other writings. We take the distinction of mankind from the animal, which is the creative powers of the human mind, which don't exist in any animal, which the strength of humanity lies in there, and we suppress that in large parts of populations, with various kinds of oppression—colonial and other oppression.

So we take a society which had the most advanced power in the planet, which was European society as it developed in recovery from the dark age of the middle of the 14th Century; we corrupt it by things like the Grand Inquisitor, and the emergence of Liberalism, and the creation of empires based on Liberalism. And we subject the entire planet to this cruelty. And we call that, "the way things are." We call that, "common sense."


IMO we have been sold fraud phsyics and fraud psychiatry by a couple of Ziostooges, Einstein and Freud, massively promoted by their controlled press. Real physics could possibly free us from oil dependency and real psychiatry is used to control our minds en masse.The Protocols of Zion - if I recall correctly - goes on about how we were also hoodwinked by agent Darwin, but I have yet to see the flaw in his science.

The Big Bang is a fraud, and it must have been created for a reason. I have my developing theories.

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I was under the impression that the genesis of the contemporary system of psychiatric classification goes back to Emil Kraepelin. I was also under the impression Freud was a psychologist, not a psychiatrist.

I'm glad we had Freud, as without Freud we would never have had the work of his pupil Wilhelm Reich.

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The Big Bang is a fraud, and it must have been created for a reason. I have my developing theories.


The main reason the 'Big Bang' theory was created was the developing science of radio post WWII and particularly the discovery of the background cosmic radiation. Hubble's observations also concluded the universe was expanding. The mechanism was deduced from the combined observations.

Together these replaced the previous 'Steady State' orthodox theory.

So having moved (although being theories, neither model is universally accepted with naysayers on both sides) from a static to a dynamic model of the cosmos, denouncing either as a 'fraud' is a rather dramatic and emotive term for devising concepts that best fit the data.

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I was under the impression that the genesis of the contemporary system of psychiatric classification goes back to Emil Kraepelin.

He may have been instrumental in starting some classifications but he was not responsible for all that followed so it is still perfectly possible for successors to be frauds.


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http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/freud.htm

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SIGMUND FREUD (1856-1939) - in full Sigismund Schlomo Freud

Austrian psychiatrist and founder of psychoanalysis, the most influential psychological theorist of 20th-century.


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How about both?

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You're right - I put that in a way that was false; thanks for picking up on it.

I suppose it would be more accurate to say that though Freud had psychiatric training, his contribution was to the field of psychology and his ideas simply do not fit with modern psychiatric practice. I don't think anyone credits Freud with contributing to the standard contemporary models of psychiatric classification and practice. The influence of Freud is seen today in psychological models like transactional analysis and psychodynamics. Please feel free to correct me if you feel the standard treatment you get at your local psychiatric ward is directly influenced by a Freudian model.

I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at with your comment about frauds.

Just to be helpful to Rodin - IIRC, Aaron Beck the developer of cognitive behavioural therapy - probably the sexiest model in psychology right now and well rated by psychiatrists too - is of Jewish lineage. I'm sure you can check easily. In which case, you'd probably be better focusing on him if you're looking to formulate theories about how the Jews are messing with our heads.

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[b]Wall Street's worst day in 3 months[/b]
Stocks tank after an economic report and comments from a Fed official amplify recession panic. Dow loses 370 points.

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By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
February 5 2008: 6:23 PM EST


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks tanked Tuesday, after a report showing a big slowdown in the services sector of the economy and cautionary comments from a Fed official amplified fears that a recession is underway or imminent.

The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) lost about 370 points, seeing its worst one-day point loss since mid-October. The decline equaled a drop of 2.9%.

The broader Standard & Poor's 500 (SPX) index lost 44 points, its worst single-day point loss in almost 6 months. The decline equaled a drop of 3.2%.

The Nasdaq composite (COMP) fell 73 points and saw its worst single-day point loss since mid-October. The decline equaled a drop of 2.6%.

"The pebble in the pond this morning was the ISM report and then the comments from [Fed President] Lacker came out and that kind of pushed people over the edge," said Kim Caughey, senior equity analyst at Fort Pitt Capital Partners.

"This is a very volatile time, everyone is nervous and the volatility shows the degree of nervousness," Caughey added.

Stocks tumbled in January, with the Nasdaq seeing its worst start to the year ever, on fears that the credit and housing market crises will send the economy into recession, if it isn't there already.

After such a steep decline, stocks managed to bounce back for a few days last week as investors scooped up battered shares. But the rally was short-lived, with stocks erasing last week's gains in a matter of two sessions.

The speed of the retreat added to investor jitters, said Peter Dunay, investment strategist at Leeb Capital Management. "If we lost that much over three weeks, investors would have seen it as a period of consolidation, but to drop 370 points in a day is really rattling."

After the close, Dow component Walt Disney (DIS, Fortune 500) reported lower quarterly earnings and higher revenue, both of which topped analysts' average forecasts. Shares jumped more than 5 percent after the close. Companies due to report quarterly results Wednesday morning include Biogen Idec (BIIB), Sara Lee (SLE, Fortune 500), Devon Energy (DVN, Fortune 500) and Time Warner (TWX, Fortune 500), CNNMoney.com's parent.

Investors on Wednesday will also be looking at the results of Super Tuesday. (For CNN's primary coverage, click here.)

More hints of a recession. The ISM services index, a survey of services sector executives, showed business activity falling in January for the first time in five years. The report was released nearly an hour ahead of schedule, unnerving investors at the start of trade. The report countered last week's reading on the manufacturing sector, which showed expansion. (Full Story).

"This is the most unequivocal sign we've had that the economy is weakening," said Stephen Stanley, chief economist at RBS Greenwich Capital. "We've had data pointing in that direction, but they've been all over the map and it always seemed like there was a silver lining in the weak reports."

"There is nothing in this report that was redeeming," he added. "It's simply terrible."

Looking to the Federal Reserve. Richmond Fed President Jeffrey Lacker, in a speech Tuesday, said that the report raises the risks of a recession, Briefing.com reported. However, he said that inflationary pressures are also rising, which could limit further interest rate cuts. Lacker is an alternate member of the Fed's policy committee this year.

His comments seemed to suggest the threat of "stagflation," the combination of slowing growth paired with higher inflation, a miserable economic development investors are hoping to avoid.

Last week's monthly jobless claims report and fourth-quarter GDP growth report suggested an acceleration of the economic slowdown. Investors will next look to Wednesday's fourth-quarter productivity report to see if it shows a rise in unit labor costs, i.e. wage inflation, and next week's January retail sales report, amid fears about a consumer spending recession.

The Federal Reserve cut interest rates twice in late January, leaving the fed funds rate, a key short-term interest rate that affects consumer loans, at 3%. The fed also cut the discount rate, which affects bank loans. The Fed has also injected billions into the financial system through a series of auctions.

The Fed actions have already started to have an impact, but it typically takes a good six to 12 months for rate cuts to work their way through the economy.

Stocks on the move. The stock selloff was decisive, with all 30 Dow components sliding, led by financial stocks Citigroup (C, Fortune 500), American Express (AXP, Fortune 500), AIG (AIG, Fortune 500) and JP Morgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500).

Economically sensitive shares, such as Alcoa (AA, Fortune 500) and Caterpillar (CAT, Fortune 500), slumped too.

Tech declines were also broad, with 95 of the Nasdaq's 100 largest non-financial stocks falling, including Microsoft (MSFT, Fortune 500), Intel (INTC, Fortune 500), Oracle (ORCL, Fortune 500) and Dell (DELL, Fortune 500).

In other corporate news, News Corp. (NWS, Fortune 500) reported higher quarterly earnings that met estimates late Monday. Shares were little changed Tuesday.

Market breadth was negative. On the New York Stock Exchange, losers trounced winners over 4 to 1 on volume of 1.68 billion shares. On the Nasdaq, losers beat winners by more than 3 to 1 on volume of 2.51 billion shares.

Other markets. Treasury prices rallied, as investors sought safety in government debt, lowering the yield on the benchmark 10-year note to 3.56% from 3.64% late Monday. Bond prices and yields move in opposite directions.

In currency trading, the dollar gained versus the yen and the euro.

U.S. light crude oil for March delivery fell $1.61 to $88.41 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

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It's a fair educated guess that the crash will come before the next General Election in Spring 2009.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
It's a fair educated guess that the crash will come before the next General Election in Spring 2009.

Brown will carry the can,Billary Clinton will preside over,Cameron will pick up the EU pieces?

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It's a fair educated guess that the crash will come before the next General Election in Spring 2009.


"To set a timetable for the phases of the conjucture was something
that even a Marx could not do.
It is even less possible to make time
predictions for the future. I haven't followed the American bank
failures. The American financial structure is two tiered. There are
powerful modern banking instiutions with ties to the most modern
economy and industry and on the other hand there are countless
completely local banks. These form the first tier and above them loom
the powerful modern banks. I think it is inherent in the logic of the
situation that it will be the small local banks that suffer most of
the crisis
that an even an improvement in the conjecture will not save
them and that the big powerful central banks are conscioulsy carrying
out such a policy.
If they are of a mind to bring Ford to his kness,
they certainly will make short shrift of the small banks. It is
possible that a process of natural selection will take place. Many
will fold at the beginning of the prosperity and this will be combined
with the conscious policy of Wall Street to make life difficult for
the provincial banks in order to eventually finish them off. Hence
these bank crises in and of themselves do not at all speak against an
improvement in the conjucture. What has been said here is of course
hypothetical. Theoretically it is unassailable, but the question is
whether it applies in this case."

March 3rd 1933 The Situation in Germany p.210-211 Writings of Leon
Trotsky Supplement 1929-1940

Could be sooner? Who actually knows what these bankers are up to?
Northern Rock was a regional bank. Its now a busted flush. Centralisation of the banking system even more like what is happening to companies will emerge as a result of the crisis. The question is how many banks will the taxpayer be forced to pick up?
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Lou Dobbs: U.S. Heading For Stagflation Crisis
CNN host slams Fed's depreciation of dollar

Paul Joseph Watson, Prison Planet, Thursday, March 6, 2008

CNN host Lou Dobbs says the U.S. economy is heading for a stagflation crisis as a result of the U.S. government's policy of dollar depreciation and that the only solution is for the American people to restore a proper Constitutional system of government.

Dobbs told The Alex Jones Show today that the decline of the dollar was, "a clear signal as to how much trouble this economy is in," added to a 9 trillion dollar national debt and a 6 trillion dollar trade debt.

America's dependence on cheap imported Chinese consumer electronics, clothes and toys was negating any elasticity that could be gained from the demand relationship with China on imports, meaning that the only conceivable benefit of a weak dollar - cheaper exports - was not even applicable, Dobbs explained.

"We have the specter of stagflation staring at us coldly and inevitably right now," said Dobbs, adding, "There's no doubt that those who would degrade the sovereignty of this country would want to certainly the power, the strength, and the respect of the U.S. dollar and it is the last thing we should permit."

Stagflation is a macroeconomics term used to describe a period of inflation combined with stagnation, ie slow economic growth allied to a potential recession.

"We have to come to terms with the amount of debt that we have allowed the elites of this country to run up," Dobbs concluded.

"I believe very strongly that we will either take back our system of government that will function through the consent of the governed, or we will see an absolute change of direction, I don't think it will be a violent revolution, but I think there will be a crisis that will impend and demand action on the part of the people," said Dobbs, pointing out that the will of the working and middle class majority was being derided and spat upon by those in Washington.

Pointing out that "both parties were paid for by corporate America and special interests," Dobbs said that the era of politicians representing the people when they went to Washington was over and that the 2008 election, no matter who became president, would change nothing whatsoever.

Click here to listen to the MP3 interview with Lou Dobbs.

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Thursday March 6, 4:12 pm ET

Dollar's Slide Extends to Third Day of Record Lows This Week Before ECB Decision

NEW YORK (AP) -- The dollar struck new record lows against the euro Thursday after the European Central Bank kept its benchmark rate on hold and the U.S. released another batch of dour economic reports.

The euro fetched a record $1.5370 in late New York trading before falling back to $1.5365. The European currency closed at $1.5262 Wednesday.

Meanwhile, the British pound broke through $2 again after the Bank of England also decided to keep its key refinancing rate unchanged at 5.25 percent.

The British pound rose to $2.0092 in New York, compared with $1.9916 it traded the night before.

"Inflationary pressures similarly remain something of a high-profile concern of the Bank of England, but speculation continues to point toward a quarter-point cut during the second quarter," said James Hughes of CMC Markets.

The dollar drifted lower to 103.09 Japanese yen from 103.87 yen, and fell to 1.0255 Swiss francs from 1.0360. The dollar rose to 1.0144 Canadian dollars from 1.0139 Canadian dollars.

As central banks in Britain and Europe stand pat on rates, the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank has slashed interest rates to 3 percent and investors expect more cuts as the economy continues to fizzle.

The latest record for the euro drew a new round of criticism in Europe, particularly from trade unions worried about exports to the U.S.

"An excessively expensive euro will cost European jobs, coming as it does on top of other setbacks to growth -- the subprime financial crisis and credit squeeze, the U.S. recession, and the end of the construction boom in several EU countries," the European Trade Union Confederation warned.

European Union businesses said they were starting to feel the pinch, too, notably from U.S.-based buyers who pay for goods from Europe.

"We said when the euro was above $1.40 that we feel the pain. When the euro is above $1.50, it is alarming," said Ernest-Antoine Sillier, president of the EU employers' group BusinessEurope.

The euro has been bolstered by a string of downbeat U.S. economic reports, too, that has driven the dollar lower and lower as fears of a U.S. recession mount.

On Wednesday, reports showed that U.S. factories saw demand for their products drop sharply in January, while the country's service sector contracted last month. That provided new evidence of weakness in an economy hit by housing and credit crises -- weakness that has raised expectations that the Fed is not done with its interest rate campaign.

Speculation has mounted that the Fed might cut rates by as much as three-fourths of a percentage point this month. Lower interest rates can jump-start a nation's economy. But they can also weaken its currency as traders transfer funds to countries where they can earn higher returns.


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GLOBAL SYSTEMIC CRISIS / SEPTEMBER 2008 - PHASE OF COLLAPSE OF US REAL ECONOMY
Public announcement GEAB N°22 (February 16, 2008)
16/02/2008

According to LEAP/E2020, the end of the third quarter of 2008 will be marked by a new tipping point in the unfolding of the global systemic crisis. At that time indeed, the cumulated impact of the various sequences of the crisis (see table below) will reach its maximum strength and affect decisively the very heart of the systems concerned, on the frontline of which the United States, epicentre of the current crisis. In the United States, this new tipping point will translate into a collapse of the real economy, final socio-economic stage of the serial bursting of the housing and financial bubbles [1] and of the pursuance of the US dollar fall. The collapse of US real economy means the virtual freeze of the American economic machinery: private and public bankruptcies in large numbers, companies and public services closing down massively [2],...

A revealing harbinger: From March 2008 onward, the US government will cease to publish its economic indicators due to budget restrictions [3]. Those who read the GEAB N°2 (02/2006), and included Alert, certainly keep in mind our anticipation which connected the upcoming fall of the US dollar with the US Fed’s decision to cease publishing the M3 indicator. This new decision is another clear sign that US leaders are now anticipating a very bleak economic outlook for their country.


Time perspective of the seven sequences of the impact phase of the global systemic crisis as anticipated since mid-2007 - Source LEAP/E2020, GEAB N°18 (10/2007)
In this 22nd issue of the GEAB, LEAP/E2020’s experts try in particular to anticipate very specifically what will come out of the collapse of the US real economy for the United States themselves and for the other regions of the world. Meanwhile our team presents five sets of strategic and operational recommendations helping to protect oneself from the upcoming deterioration of the global systemic crisis.

On the occasion of the second anniversary of the publication of our famous “Global systemic crisis Alert” which toured the world in February 2006 [4], LEAP/E2020 wishes to remind that we are now resolutely stepping into an era with no historical precedent. Our researchers insisted on that many times in the last two years: any comparison with the previous crises of our modern economy would be fallacious. It is neither a “remake” of the 1929 crisis nor a repetition of the 1970s oil crises or 1987 stock market crisis. It is truly a global systemic crisis, that is to say a crisis affecting the entire planet and questioning the very foundations of the international system upon which the world was organised in the last decades.

According to LEAP/E2020, it is also instructive to observe that, two years after the release of this « Alert » which at the time generated both the interest of millions of readers worldwide and the condescending irony of most « experts » and « managers » of the economic and financial spheres, everyone is now convinced that a crisis is truly happening, that it is really global, and for most people already that it could indeed be systemic. However, it is always a repeated astonishment for our team to see the degree of incapacity of these same experts and managers in understanding the specific nature of the phenomenon currently unfolding. According to them, this crisis would only be a normal crisis but bigger. As a matter of fact that is the way the financial media reflect the dominant interpretations of the ongoing crisis. According to our team, this approach is not only intellectually lazy [5], it is also morally guilty, because it has for a main consequence to prevent their readers (whether they are simple citizens, private investors or public or private organisation managers) from preparing for the upcoming shocks [6].

For this reason, in opposition to all what can be read in the mainstream media always eager to conceal the truth and serve the interests of those who rule them, LEAP/E2020 wishes to remind that it is first and foremost in the United States that the systemic crisis is taking an unprecedented shape (the « Very Great US Depression » as our team decided to call it in January 2007 [7]) because it is around this country, and this country alone, that the world got progressively organised after the second World War. The various issues of the GEAB extensively described this situation. In short, let’s be clear about the fact that neither Europe nor Asia have a negative saving rate, a full-scale housing crisis throwing millions of citizens out of their homes, a free-falling currency, abysmal public and trade deficits, an economic recession and, on top of all this, a number of costly wars to finance.

Neither Asia nor Europe (or more precisely ‘nor the Eurozone’) will suffer the roughest, the most sustainable and the most negative impact of the ongoing crisis; but the United States will, as well as all the countries/economies strongly linked to the US (what our experts have decided to call “the American risk”) [8]. A “decoupling” is indeed taking place between the US economy and the other large regions of the world. But “decoupling” does not mean “independence” and it is clear that, as anticipated by LEAP/E2020 for many months, Asia and Europe will be affected by the crisis. But « decoupling » entails that the evolution of the US economy and of the other large regions of the world are no longer synchronised, that Asia and Europe are now moving along courses no longer determined by the US economy.

The global systemic crisis is in fact the beginning of an economic « decoupling » between the US and the rest of the world, knowing that the non « decoupled » economies will be dragged down the US negative spiral.


US Self-Employment in a Steep Downturn - Source Bureau of Labor Statistics / Merril Lynch (shaded region represents period of US recession)
The cases of the housing (2006) and financial (2007) bubble-bursting are eloquent. Indeed, the large majority of operators (non-specialised in the concerned sector) discovered that « the party was over » a long time after the trend had reversed. During the entire reversal period (which usually lasts between 6 to 12 months at most), dominant stances kept repeating them that nothing was changing and that emerging worries had no reason to be; and later, that the problems would remain confined to the sector concerned and to the US only. All those who, in the US and elsewhere, listened to these arguments are bitterly regretful now that they are stuck with unmarketable houses (or about to be foreclosed) or now that they see the value of their assets crumble day after day [9].

Concerning stock markets, our team has anticipated since October 2007 that international stocks would plummet by 20 to 60 percent according to the region in the course of the year 2008. Today, we must re-evaluate our anticipations as we estimate that losses will be even greater than that. Indeed, on the one hand, stock markets have already lost between 10 and 20 percent since the beginning of the year [10], and, on the other hand, the collapse of the real economy in the US by the end of Summer 2008 will drag down all stock markets. According to LEAP/E2020, international stock markets will probably drop by 50 percent in average compared to 2007 (including in the emerging countries) [11].

This sort of re-evaluation is typical of the work of anticipation carried by LEAP/E2020. Month after month we try to distinguish which trends are growing and which are relenting in order to improve the accuracy of our evaluations. We do not strive to “be right” [12], nor to “sell” or “promote” anything. We seek simply and without prejudice to describe in advance the consequences of the heavy trends at play in this 21st-century world, and to share with our readers what we think are the proper means to protect oneself from the most negative effects.

In this 22nd issue of the Global Europe Anticipation Bulletin, with the alert we sound about a collapse of US real economy from September 2008 onward, we are trying again to warn those concerned that this major event will generate many very severe socio-political troubles in the United States [13] whose economy is truly on a tumbling course [14], a situation extremely likely to entail very heavy consequences for the financial and monetary markets, and for the world’s economy. We have not yet reached the heart of the crisis. According to LEAP/E2020, we will be there in the second semester of 2008.


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[1] A very instructive film was recently nominated at the Sundance Film Festival: I.O.U.S.A., directed by Patrick Creadon. As it follows the journey of David Walker, US Comptroller General (and therefore responsible for controlling federal public spending), during a series of conferences on the state of public expenditures throughout the country, this film shows the very direct impact of the current crisis on American citizens and the United States. The release of this film illustrates the fact that, in just a few months time, this crisis left the mere circles of experts and boardrooms of financial institutions to enter into the daily life of the US citizens.

[2] In the past few days, the complete collapse of Municipal bonds (or « Munis ») illustrates the fact that the crisis is spreading to all sectors of the US society. This collapse will freeze all public investment projects scheduled by local authorities in the US. It is one of the first big victims of the implosion of « bonds insurers » announced by LEAP/E2020 in the GEAB N°19. It aloso demonstrates the fact that large banks are now incapable of playing their role of financers of the country’s economic activity. Sources: Financial Times, 02/13/2008 & Bloomberg, 02/14/2008

[3] Source: EconomicIndicators.Gov, Economics & Statistics Administration, US Department of Commerce

[4] See GEAB N°2, 02/15/2006

[5] The first reason that may prevent those « experts » to conceive the « unconceivable », is not a matter of intelligence but a « commercial » problem. Indeed it would compel them to review most of their intellectual principles (their work hypotheses) and their business base (their « clients » would not appreciate to learn that they were on the wrong track all these years).

[6] On this subject, it is worth noticing the very straightforward speech made by the head of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, who recently warned his fellow citizens that the current crisis would downgrade significantly their living standards. Unfortunately, no US leader, including among the Democrats, is able to produce such a speech, knowing that their fellow citizens will be hit even harder than the British. Source: The Telegraph, 02/14/2008.

[7] See GEAB N°11, 01/15/2007.

[8] In this 22nd issue of the GEAB, the LEAP/E2020 team gives a set of recommendations helping investors to assess themselves the « American risk » of a country, sector or investment.

[9] The same goes for all those who chose to listen to similar arguments telling them, along the years 2006 and 2007, that it was impossible for the EURUSD exchange rate to go above 1.30, then 1.40, and now 1.50… while waiting 1.70 at the end of the year 2008.

[10] Only « dream merchants » can still imagine that stock markets could improve by the end of the year, while the crisis is speeding up.

[11] It is worth reminding that in January 2008, in just a month, global stock markets saw USD 5,200 billion-worth go up in smoke. Source: China Daily News, 02/10/2008

[12] Even if our anticipations undeniably proved to be right in the past two years concerning the global systemic crisis.

[13] See ‘Sequence 6 : 2nd quarter 2007 – 4th quarter 2009 : « Very Great Depression » in the US, social unrest and growing influence of the army on public management, GEAB N°18, 10/15/2007

[14] Predictions about the failure of dozens of US banks in the coming two years illustrate the scope of upcoming difficulties. Source: Reuters, 02/01/2008
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March 8, 2008

US Fed releases $200bn as credit crisis hits new depths

Siobhan Kennedy

The global credit crisis plunged to new depths yesterday as persistent fears over the collapse of a large financial institution caused funding markets to dry up and forced the US Federal Reserve to make available up to $200 billion (£99.3 billion) of emergency financing.

The Fed said that a “rapid deterioration” in the credit markets in recent days had prompted it to begin a series of fresh cash injections in an effort to shore up the balance sheets of America’s stricken banks. Unemployment also shot up in the US last month, adding to the gloom. US stocks tumbled, dragging the Dow Jones industrial average down 138.40 points to 11.902.00. Treasury prices jumped and the dollar fell to record lows.

Bankers said that the moves underscored the deepening severity of the crisis, which was triggered last June by the collapse of the American sub-prime mortgage market and has got progressively worse since. One senior banker in London said: “This is the beginning of the real credit crisis and it’s not going to end without a major casualty.”

Sources said that the present crisis was triggered by cash-strapped banks starting to get tough with their hedge fund clients by making margin calls on loans and drastically raising interest rate payments overnight. The move has pushed the funds into the panic-selling of assets, mostly AAA-rated US mortgage securities, and several are thought to be on the brink of collapse. One of them, Carlyle Capital Corporation (CCC), said yesterday that overnight it had received “substantial additional margin calls” linked to its souring investments in US mortgages.

Thornburg, the US mortgage lender, exacerbated investor jitters when it said that it did not have enough cash to meet $610 million of margin calls. Last week Peloton, a London hedge fund, collapsed after it became unable to meet the banks’ demands.

Bankers said that the problem was related to a perceived increased risk surrounding the AAA-rated prime mortgages and to the consequences of dangerous overleveraging of the funds themselves. In the case of Carlyle, its CCC fund had leveraged its assets by $30 for every $1 of its own cash.

“The whole industry was created by cheap debt,” the banking source said. “It was really all just an illusion.”

Underlining the Fed’s desperate attempts to calm markets, for the first time it said that it would accept mortgage-backed assets as collateral from the banks for fresh loans. As the fear spread, the perceived risk of owning US corporate bonds - measured by the widening of credit spreads – also rose to its highest level.

Friedman, Billings, Ramsey, the US analyst firm, said that the US financial industry would need $1 trillion of permanent capital to maintain current pricing of mortgage assets. However, it added that the industry would not be able to obtain that amount.

Shares of Carlyle’s CCC fund were suspended in Amsterdam yesterday as it disclosed that it had received more default notices from its lenders and that some of those lenders had been forced to sell CCC’s mortgage assets in an effort to recover their loans. The dire forecast came only 24 hours after CCC said that it had been issued with $37 million of margin calls from lenders, having satisfied $60 million of calls only the week before.

Sean Egan, of the Egan-Jones Ratings Company, said: “When financial history is written, the Carlyle liquidation will go down as one of the single most major events. Carlyle has built an image as one of the smartest investors around, and to see one of its funds fall apart shows there is a fundamental problem with the market.”


Central bank pumping liquidity into the system = inflation, i.e. taxation of the public to accommodate the shenanigans of irresponsible financiers.

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