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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Child Sex Abuse or Healthy Sex Education? How sick Reply with quote

How sick can you get

http://tpuc.org/node/151


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Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government's Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age.


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"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same."

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a series on BBC3 at the moment called: "Sex... with Mum and Dad"
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Series in which British families discuss sexual issues using the techniques of sexologist Maria Schopman, who aims to increase trust in the family unit and shake off embarrassment.


Sounds great doesn't it? Perhaps I'm being over sensitive in drawing attention to what is after all, only the TITLE.

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IN COUNTRIES KNOWN AS PROGRESSIVE AND ENLIGHTENED WE HAVE CREATED A SENSELESS, FILTHY, ABOMINABLE LITERATURE. For some time after our entrance to power we shall continue to encourage its existence in order to provide a telling relief by contrast to the speeches, party program, which will be distributed from exalted quarters of ours ....
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is a series on BBC3 at the moment called: "Sex... with Mum and Dad"
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Series in which British families discuss sexual issues using the techniques of sexologist Maria Schopman, who aims to increase trust in the family unit and shake off embarrassment.


Sounds great doesn't it? Perhaps I'm being over sensitive in drawing attention to what is after all, only the TITLE.

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IN COUNTRIES KNOWN AS PROGRESSIVE AND ENLIGHTENED WE HAVE CREATED A SENSELESS, FILTHY, ABOMINABLE LITERATURE. For some time after our entrance to power we shall continue to encourage its existence in order to provide a telling relief by contrast to the speeches, party program, which will be distributed from exalted quarters of ours ....


It would be appreciated, by me at least, if you could give websites or references as to where the above two quotes came from. I'd like to see the original material; this is serious and I suspect it is going to get worse.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caz - The first is from www.radiotimes.com. The second is from a certain "notorious anti-semitic forgery", which I added because I was mightily pi55ed off last night about what I see as hypocrisy and restriction of free expression on this forum. Sorry for not referencing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Simplesimon...you might appreciate the following.

http://www.rense.com/general66/rosen.htm
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W. And when this whole sordid story becomes known, the result will be an aroused citizenry -- an angry citizenry who will want to destroy you.

R. How? I ask you how? YOU can't reach the people. We have it all under such control that no one -- no one or no-body can people unless it is done through our media control........ We have it sewed up!! We have infected your churches completely and we now control the school system in the United States. It is a reality that we have complete control of organized Christianity. Almost anywhere -- completely.


The above is from the Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview as reported on Rense.

Wikipedia reports this about his death and the interview he gave:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Wallace_Rosenthal

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Harold Wallace Rosenthal (1947 – August 12, 1976), was a member of the Jewish community of Washington D.C. and the administrative assistant of senator Jacob K. Javits from New York who was also a member of the Jewish community. Rosenthal was killed in an alleged sky-jacking attempt on an Israeli airliner in Istanbul, Turkey, August 12, 1976. The same year, a Fellowship was established in memory of Harold Rosenthal in association with the American Jewish Committee.

On March 13, 1978, a 17 pages booklet was published about an alleged interview given by Rosenthal to Walter White Jr., editor and director of the conservative monthly newspaper "Western Front", arguing about a "Jewish world conspiracy". This interview was apparently made one month before his death, rumours of a connection with his revealing sensitive Jewish programs and an assassination disguised in a terrorist attack spread.



Having recently spent a couple of weeks in Israel with a dozen Jewish people from the US and two Rabbis, I hardly imagine that they would in any way support the above. In fact, one of these people I have quoted with respect to the situation with charter schools in the US; her daughter was sent to a Christian school as her husband was a Christian, and she was chosen to perform duties in services whenever a child was required, as her mother was Jewish. For this, they took her out of this school. So she was in fact a victim of the above control of schools. More so, the interview seems designed to foster Jewish hatred.

However, very obviously, from looking seriously what is going on now in schools, clearly someone(s) is controlling this situation. And if we are not careful the gate may close on our children while we aren't paying attention.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: EU to regulate sexual education/Rights of the Child?! Reply with quote

The European Parliament has adopted a Resolution on the EU's future Strategy on the Rights of the Child - which holds reference to sexual education

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&reference=P6-TA- 2008-0012&language=EN

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L. whereas the rights of children as autonomous legal beings should be recognised, yet, despite national and international legislation, girls and women are often victims of legal, social and economic inequalities, which affect the exercise of their positive and fundamental rights, such as equal access to education, training and healthcare, safe food and clean water and reproductive rights for adolescents,


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159. Recalls children's right to health and, in particular, adolescents' right to sexual and reproductive health and stresses that the protection of maternal health must be an integral part of the future EU strategy on the rights of the child, which should promote living and working conditions suitable for pregnant and breastfeeding women and insist on compliance with the existing legislation protecting the rights of female workers, as well as equal and universal access for all women to quality pre- and post-natal care in the public sector in order to reduce maternal and infant mortality and transmission of diseases from mother to child; stresses the vital importance that maternity leave has for a child's development, particularly on account of the child's bond with its mother not only during the early months following birth but also during the first years of its life;


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160. Welcomes the fact that the Commission recognises that children, from birth to adulthood, have very different needs at different developmental stages of their lives; recalls children's right to the highest attainable standard of health and, specifically, adolescents' right to sexual and reproductive health and family planning education and services and that it must therefore be an integral part of the future EU strategy on the rights of the child


Having read the above postings, I wonder why now the EU should be the one promoting, regulating and perhaps funding this. I especially am concerned with the IN PARTICULAR.

Next step could be to define a Europe wide age of consent to sexual relations. [/quote]
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a must watch video of what is happening in schools in the US. Peg Luksik gives similar advice to what Brian Gerrish does, and talks about sexual abuse of children in schools, condoned by the state, and the consequent rise in home schooling there.

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Howard Phillips hosts Peg Luksik to discuss the evolution of the modern school system. Luksik explains how education has been taken away from where it belongs - families and communities - and turned into a system of standardized programs dependent on the government for their funding.




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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems rather as if the pedophiles are in control of the children. This is a more detailed report on the abuse of children in schools sanctioned by the State. It seems to me that what the BBC Slink website is actually doing is grooming children (with respect to 'fingering', 'avoid excess prodding', and glittery extensions is 'antisocial' during an internal examination' at http://www.bbc.co.uk/scoopcps/teens/news/2005/09/12/25766.shtml) to be treated as follows:

from: http://www.injusticeline.com/strouds.html
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ELEVEN YEAR OLD 6TH GRADERS VIOLATED BY GOALS 2000 -- LITERALLY!
Government authorizes vaginal entry of schoolchildren
Protests of parents, screams of children, ignored by officials

This story has been edited from the original as written by Mark E. Howerter, otherside@misslink.net. For further information, see the Washington Times, May 6, 1996.

Parents no longer have to worry ``only'' about sex crazed men in trench coats when it comes to the sexual abuse of their daughters. Now, as one parent put it, ``Rapists and molestors sometimes wear white, too, and don't always operate in the shadows.'' Such was the case this last March 19th (1996) at the J. T. Lambert Elementary School in East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania.

Fifty nine sixth grade girls were instructed to strip to their underwear and wait for a genital examination that was part of a state mandated physical. Sixteen of the girls started to cry and some asked to call their parents. The school nurse called them ``babies'' and refused to let them call home.

One 11 year old, Susie Tucker, wouldn't take no for an answer. ``I want to call my mother. My mother wouldn't want you to do this to me,'' she said. Her pleas fell on deaf ears. One nurse was reported to have blocked the door so that none of the girls could escape.

The physician reportedly put the girls in a room and had them lie down on a table, spread-eagled, with nothing covering them. Susie Tucker's mother, Katie, said, ``The girls had no idea what they were doing. The doctor didn't talk to them. She just did the genital exam and didn't say one word. All my daughter could do was stare up at the ceiling. And it hurt. It still hurts.''

In a fax I received from the East Stroudsburg Area School District they claim that all parents were notified. Some of the parents admit that they were notified of the physical but there was absolutely no mention of any type of genital exam. According to The Rutherford Institute in a press release dated May 10th, ``One girl's parents even sent the permission slip back to the school denying it permission to examine their child -- but the school examined her anyway.''

The problem here is that the ``default setting'' allows for this type of procedure to be done if a parent does not disallow it in writing. (In this case the East Stroudsburg school went ahead and performed the exam on one student whose mother had specifically stated in writing she did not want her daughter subjected to it.) The way it should be done is that unless a note is specifically received back, signed by a parent allowing the procedure it should not be done. It is just backwards. The policy of the NEA under Goals 2000 is: if in doubt, proceed.

The Rutherford Institute filed suit against the East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, school district on May 10th on behalf of one family. They say that additional families are expected to join the suit later this month. ``The school's actions were outrageous,'' said David Melton, a Rutherford Institute staff attorney who is co-counsel in the case. ``The school acted with total disregard for either the students' or the parents' rights.''

(See http://www.rutherford.org/litig.html for information on the lawsuit of Doe v. East Stroudsburg Area School District.)

The Rutherford Institute filed suit against a Pennsylvania school district which forced more than 50 sixth-grade girls to undergo physical examinations, many of which included gynecological exams, without informed parental consent and against the girls' wishes. The Rutherford Institute is arguing that the school's actions violated parents' rights and the students' Fourth Amendment right to privacy and constituted an intentional infliction of emotional distress.

``This case is a classic example of `child abuse' programs run amok,'' said Melton. ``These children were abused by the school in order to determine whether they could have been abused by their parents. This is more akin to child abuse than education.''

According to the March 22nd edition of the Pocono Record newspaper, Dr. Vahanvaty stated, ``Even a parent doesn't have the right to say what's appropriate for a physician to do when they're doing an exam.'' Hold on just a minute here. Whose kids are these anyway? Are they the parents' children or are they the government's children? Does this remind anyone else of Hillary's It Takes a Village?

Katie Tucker asks, ``Maybe it's the school's plan to align itself with Goals 2000?'' and in fact, the records show that the East Stroudsburg school already did receive $25,000 from Goals 2000. Here we go folks. We are in an all out war here. On one side you have parents who say it is and always has been our right and responsibility to raise our kids. On the other side you have Hillary's Village a.k.a. the government via Goals 2000, saying that all kids belong to them to do with as they see fit. The battle lines are drawn.

The reason the media isn't all over this story is clear. Goals 2000 not only supports this type of examination, it actually requires it! Goals 2000 is the darling of the NEA and the liberal media. Hang on tight to your kids ladies and gentlemen. They're coming to take them away ho-ho, he-he. Big Brother isn't just coming any more -- he's already here and he is a ``She'' and ``She'' wants our kids!

In Paul Craig Robert's column, printed in the May 6th, 1996, edition of the Washington Times, he says, ``Hillary Clinton's book, It Takes a Village, paints a picture in the reader's mind that parents are dangerous to children unless they are guided and overseen by experts.''

The reason for these examinations is simple. It is because parents are not to be trusted. Parents are suspect to Hillary and the NEA. One parent said, ``Females can only get genital warts from an infected male. If there's a problem with pre-adolescent girls in East Stroudsburg suddenly presenting an epidemic of genital warts, one would think the pre- and post- adolescent male population would be examined, also.'' Who do they think is going to give 6th grade girls genital warts? Sixth grade boys? No way! Parents -- fathers, that's who!

Genital exams are not scheduled for the boys. Genital warts can afflict both sexes, so why aren't they checking the boys over? Might there not be some kind of civil rights violation if these girls were singled out for this kind of exam? There is one reason girls are singled out. A bunch of man-hating feminists have an agenda of not trusting the male of the species.

I'll tell you this folks, if it had been my little girl they had done one of those exams on without my permission they would have more than a lawsuit on their hands. My blood is boiling. This story has burned me to the very core ever since I heard about it.

The Pennsylvania State Police were called in to investigate whether any laws were broken. They completed their ``investigation'' without ever interviewing one of the 59 girls who were violated. Some investigation. Parents of the girls are outraged as well as thousands of parents around the country.

This story has been in the Washington Times and the Pocono Record but, as usual, the mainstream media has ignored the whole thing. The word has spread mainly via the internet. Even without any media coverage to speak of, the East Stroudsburg Area School District has had to take drastic measures to deal with the volume of calls it has received from all over the country.

Some parents are upset to the point of violence. In the fax I received from the East Stroudsburg Area School District they say that anonymous ``threatening'' phone calls have been placed to district administrators, staff and employees to both their workplaces and homes.

``The district has been flooded with telephone calls and messages, mostly from anonymous individuals...Accordingly, the district has been placed in a position of having telephone calls to the district, and to the homes of certain of its staff and administrators, traced.''

One mother (name withheld) who did receive a notice said, ``I wrote on the form that my daughter was NOT to have a school physical. She refused the exam; but they did it anyway.'' Now that sixth grader is experiencing nightmares and wakes up repeating, ``But I said, `no'. I said, `no.' ''

Mrs. Tucker adds, ``As parents, we teach our children to say, `no' to being exposed and touched at school; her voice went unheeded...I know her regular doctor would not have...done [that]. She knows enough about her private parts. When she says `no' she means `no.' Why not just rape her and deny it?''

One parent said, ``The girls were not brutalized except in the sense that they were not allowed authority over their own bodies. They were not allowed to say `No'...It was a normal physical examination. But...I'd probably hurt the person who did it to my daughter. In many ways it was a violation, a rape. What, after all, is the difference between sex and rape? Control. That's all. And the girls had none.''

``I'm sure there were many girls who were not overly upset by the exams. But what about the ones who really didn't want to let another person, even a doctor, touch their bottoms? We try to teach our children to respect their bodies and to expect others to respect their wishes. We teach them to say `no' and mean it. Being completely and utterly powerless over your very self is the violation.''

Officials claimed parents' ``emotional'' reaction, not the physical, upset the little girls. But Dr. E. W. Throckmorton, president elect of the American Mental Health Counselors Association, disagreed. He stated, ``The fundamental rights of parents to direct health care was apparently violated by this intrusive exam.''

The East Stroudsburg School District issued a review of the matter after parental complaints. The review stated that the tests did not violate state health regulations. One parent responded this way. ``No, and it probably didn't violate parking regulations or business licensing requirements either. But if there is a state health regulation that purports to permit this kind of abuse I would say that Pennsylvania has a very, very serious constitutional problem.'' It is not just Pennsylvania, but every state that adopts Goals 2000.

``Pennsylvania's branch of the NEA rallied around the pediatrician, school nurses, and state's right to permit an in-school genital exam. To demonstrate their approval, teachers began wearing blue ribbons. Three hundred children -- to plead their case -- started wearing homemade pink ribbons.''

If it were my daughter there would be more to it than sending her back to that school wearing a little pink ribbon in protest. At the very least, she would never step foot back in that school again.

As I quoted one parent in the opening paragraph, ``Rapists and molestors sometimes wear white, too, and don't always operate in the shadows.'' Now they are in government-run schools thanks to Goals 2000.

One parent was obviously as outraged as I am by this whole thing and [that parent] said it like this: ``Anyone who has kids of your own, teach your kids that if they're ever in that situation or anything remotely similar, they should kick, scream, throw things, do real damage to persons and property, whatever it took, to escape. No holds barred, no rules. Kick the `doctor'/molester in the onions, kick the nurse in the shins, scream, gouge out eyes, throw breakables, pull over desks and tables, anything, rather than submit. And make sure they know that you'd support them, and weren't just mouthing the words.'' I could not have stated my feelings more clearly than that.

Another outraged parent asked this question, ``Are we (expletive deleted) raising nothing but meek little sheep and cattle, who'd submit to anything and everything, just because someone claims to have `authority' over them, real or not?''

As a Boy Scout leader I can tell you that the Scout manual has had to add a big section in the front that deals with this kind of thing. They have us teach scouts to do exactly what the person suggested above -- no holds barred and let them know you'll stand behind them. I have taught this to my kids and I would back them all the way. I just called all three of my kids in and went over this again and not only told them that I'd back them if they fought, but demanded that they fight with deadly force, if necessary, if anything like this were to ever happen to them. As if you can't tell, I am still steaming over this.
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