Israelis Behind 9/11 - Chris Bollyn

[outsider]

This article was sent to me, and I replied to sender with message below the link. He replied, saying he'd got the same response from other sources, and had taken info on board.
I'm posting it up because I'm sure some of our posters can go into Bollyn's article in depth. It is not a good idea to blame Israel for something they did not do (control the 'highjackers' through computer controls and bypassing the US defenses); there is enough to blame them for which they are responsible for. I'm not blaming Bolleyn for deliberate disinfo, but he's wrong here.

http://www.bollyn.com/index/?id=10797

I'm sure this is a 'Red Herring'; Israeli links to sensitive computers does not mean 9/11 was a 'computer crime' - it was a classic 'False Flag' op, a device used to start almost all US 'wars' from the birth of the Republic. It's unfortunate this blaming of 9/11 on Israeli computer links
should come out at a time when our 9/11 sites are being classed alongside 'terrorist' sites.
I don't think Bolleyn is deliberately muddying the waters, but muddying the waters he is on this occassion.
If he wants to go with Israeli complicity in 9/11, he has ample scope with the 'Dancing Israelis', text warnings from an Israeli firm, and a conversation overheard in a Jewish cemetary in the US pre-9/11.

[TonyGosling]

I don't agree with Chris Bollyn. He doesn't seem to see that because Mossad knew 911 was going to happen that they must have been behind it. Sir no sir. Seems to me many intel agencies had foreknowledge - Mossad acted on it to protect many Jews and Israeli citizens on the day. Which, after all, is their job.

Having said that I very much admire Bollyn's work because he has the courage to ask questions very few people dare ask around possible Israeli links to all sorts of dodgey activities.

The Israeli state certainly gained massively from 9/11, through its whipping up heaps of media manipulated hatred against arabs.



Personally I am convinced that Mossad thinks it can use its hard-sold software to infiltrate every major institution on earth including the naive and tehnophobic in various militaries including the British forces.

Its quite possible that Israelis were using backdoors into NORAD radar control systems on 911 to effectively paralyse US air defences.

see also
Yes, the War is for Oil - and the Oil is for Israel
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/154919

[outsider]

But they hardly needed to paralyse Norad's defenses, when that seems to be the raison d'etre of all their 'War Games' and exercises.
I agree it's highly likely they have infiltrated highly secret and sensitive computers, but we know the US fixed the attacks themselves, so the computer infiltration would perhaps just pick up evidence, which could conceivably be used to blackmail the US at some future date (like the USS Liberty business has the potential to be, though it would be a 'Sampson Option'.) or perhaps to 'leak' selected info via a 'hacker' who just stumbled on the info (like 'Squidgy tapes').

[karlos]

NORAD was ordered to stand down by Dick Cheney?
While i agree that Mossad was behind 911 and have unprecedented access to US security infrastructure i dont agree that it is entirely a one way street, Mossad is available for hire to the highest bidder and very often work AGAINST the interests of Israel and Israeli citizens. An example of this is the Sharm El Sheikh bombing which killed many Israelis.
Another seperate example is the Mossad bombing in Argentina which killed many Jews and was at first blamed on Hizbollah but this was later proven to have been a false flag.

Mossad does not have a problem killing Israelis or Jews in order to further their aims. They are simply an old fashioned mafia type of crim syndicate much like the CIA who are heavily involved in drug smuggling.

[Alulim]

Look into Cheney's role in JINSA.

Cheney's Halliburton comes up with some very interesting connections to PERMINDEX. That'll get you to Bronfman. Bronfman will get you to the WJC and to Stephen E. Herbits. Keep going and you wind up with Ronald S. Lauder, Sliverstein and their ties to Israeli intelligence. Hell, there's even a Ronald S. Lauder School of Spooks at Mossad University.




Is Cheney a Crypto?

[Thermate911]

Odigo

I can't believe I'm reading some of the comments here! Wise up, people - the net is not a playground! Gaza is not just a sandpit!

[Alulim]

Care to make a specific, tangible statement which might actually lead to understanding?

[suraci]

Israeli hands are all over 911. It's incredible, but there it is. It's one of the reasons I now despise Israel with a passion. 911 has lead me to research the whole criminal enterprise, and it's a pariah state, guilty of everything the US are so keen to tag the "axis of evil" with.

They got away with it for so long because we didn't have the Internet. Now we do, and they're in trouble. I have no doubt that this site and any like it will be classed as inciting terrorism very soon, a few years at most. They simply cannot afford to have the wider public know that they are guilty of terror attacks. The USS liberty attack was blatant and is just now starting to be disclosed.

Israel is a blatantly criminal state, started illegally at the point of a gun, and maintained since with horrendous violence and big brother US money. It's Knesset is riven with scandal of every kind. It does not extradite, but sits down there in the med waiting with open arms for those caught up to no good in every country on the face of the planet.

Would Israel slaughter 3000 innocents on 911? Sure, why not, religious fundamentals can always justify any horror. Read the Talmud, hardly ever mentioned in the media. All hidden behind the fairy tale of the Holocaust.

The truth is coming their way, and they don't like it.

[TonyGosling]

there's this too


Link


Evidence is starting to stack up against the Israeli military. Maybe Mossad and/or Shin Bet did more than just know beforehand and warn their countrymen, maybe they did have a hand in it?

[fish5133]

[blackbear]

Maybe of interest....The Mystery Of The 9/11 Car Bombs

"A much underreported aspect of the 9/11 attacks is one that concerns transmissions, sightings, reports and statements alluding to multiple mysterious suspects in different vans packed with explosives that were stopped and detained in New York while the towers were burning and in the aftermath of the attacks."

http://infowars.net/articles/april2007/230407vans.htm

Shortly After 8:46 a.m. September 11, 2001: Neighbor Sees Suspicious Men Documenting First WTC Attack and Cheering, Calls Police
A homemaker living near Liberty State Park, Jersey City, New Jersey sees three men behaving strangely on a nearby roof and alerts the authorities.

This homemaker, who has given only her first name Maria, is called by a neighbor shortly after the first plane has hit the WTC and is told about the impact. She has a view of the WTC from her apartment building so she gets her binoculars and watches the disaster.

However, she also notices three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. Maria will later recall, “They seemed to be taking a movie.” They are taking video or photos of themselves with the WTC burning in the background.

But what strikes Maria is their expressions: “They were like happy, you know… They didn’t look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange.” She writes down the license plate number of the van and calls the police.
[ABC News, 6/21/2002]

Apparently the men leave the area a few minutes after the first attack is over. [CounterPunch, 2/7/2007] An FBI lookout bulletin for the van will be issued later in the day (see 3:31 p.m. September 11, 2001) and the three men (plus two more discovered with them) will be detained (see 3:56 p.m. September 11, 2001).

When the men detained, one of them will be found with pictures of the group standing with the burning wreckage of the WTC in the background. [Forward, 3/15/2002] At least some of the pictures were taken while standing on top of the van. [New York Times, 10/8/2001] The lawyer for the five men will later note that one photograph developed by the FBI shows one of the men, Sivan Kurzberg, holding a lighted lighter in the foreground, with the burning WTC in the background. [New York Times, 11/21/2001] It will apparently be determined at least two of the men are Israeli spies, but what they were doing and why will remain in dispute. One of these Israelis will later say, “our purpose was to document the event.” [ABC News, 6/21/2002]

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/topic.jsp?topic=country_israel

AlicetheKurious

Of course, the explosives, but also Israel's history of false flags designed to make it look good and its enemies look bad. Israeli terrorists have consistently disguised themselves as Arabs, or used Arab patsies, as I demonstrated in an another thread several weeks ago, starting with the bombing of the King David Hotel, through the Lavon bombings in Egypt, andthe Libyan "Death Squads" Mossad false-flag, that motivated Reagan to bomb Libya.

This is an article from the Miami Herald, that is no longer available at their site:

Nuclear plants tighten security
FBI seeking 6 men seen in Midwest
BY MARTIN MERZER, CURTIS MORGAN AND LENNY SAVINO
mmerzer@herald.com OCTOBER 3,2001

WASHINGTON -- As the nation stands on high alert, the FBI is searching for six men stopped by police in the Midwest last weekend but released -- even though they possessed photos and descriptions of a nuclear power plant in Florida and the Trans-Alaska pipeline, a senior law enforcement official said Tuesday.

The Federal Aviation Administration imposed new flight restrictions around nuclear plants nationwide Tuesday, and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission advised the nation's 103 nuclear plants late Monday to fortify security. On Tuesday, agency spokesmen said the FAA's flight restrictions and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's security recommendations were based on Ashcroft's general alert rather than a specific threat. Ashcroft warned that Americans could be struck by another terrorist attack this week.

The incident in the Midwest apparently contributed to the new warning. The six men stopped by police were traveling in groups of three in two white sedans, said a senior law enforcement official, who requested anonymity.

SUSPICIOUS MATERIAL

In addition to the photographs and other suspicious material, they carried "box cutters and other equipment,'' the official said. They appeared to be from the Middle East and held Israeli passports. They were let go after the Immigration and Naturalization Service determined that the passports were valid and that the men had entered the United States legally, the official said. .......

A CLUE..."The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive."

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=157761&highlight =#157761

[outsider]