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LFJ Banned
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: Sudan/China media Psyops |
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BBC ...China has worked hard over the past few months to show it is doing all it can to resolve the humanitarian crisis in Sudan's Darfur region.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7242725.stm
Indy ...China has been called upon to abandon its support for Sudan by a coalition of Nobel Prize-winners and international athletes, who demanded that this year's Olympic hosts cease to trade with a regime which is held responsible by the world for the carnage in Darfur.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/in-olympic-year-china-urg ed-to-use-its-influence-in-darfur-782011.html
Since when did the G8 worry about African people dying?
When they start suggesting intervention that normally mean's the "O" word.
And of course who's getting the blame for "not doing enough" you guessed it... China who just by sheer coincidence buy's most of Sudan's oil....
But as with all Psyops campaigns they have to watch how they present it/brand it and since "Sudan" is already etched on our minds as Hunger, drought, death and human suffering the MSM now prefers "Darfur" as it will be a "Clean" word to brand/demonize in their grooming of public opinion for a "Humanitarian intervention" - (bombs/death)
Now the talking heads are appearing on our tv screen's "reminding" us what's right and wrong and how could we possibly argue with "Steven Spielberg"
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insidejob Validated Poster
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: Who's saving Darfur? |
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7594
Ten Reasons Why "Save Darfur" is a PR Scam to Justify the Next US Oil and Resource Wars in Africa
by Bruce Dixon
Global Research, December 12, 2007
blackagendareport.com - 2007-11-27
The star-studded hue and cry to "Save Darfur" and "stop the genocide" has gained enormous traction in U.S. media along with bipartisan support in Congress and the White House. But the Congo, with ten to twenty times as many African dead over the same period is not called a "genocide" and passes almost unnoticed. Sudan sits atop lakes of oil. It has large supplies of uranium, and other minerals, significant water resources, and a strategic location near still more African oil and resources. The unasked question is whether the nation's Republican and Democratic foreign policy elite are using claims of genocide, and appeals for "humanitarian intervention" to grease the way for the next oil and resource wars on the African continent.... |
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LFJ Banned
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:15 am Post subject: Re: Who's saving Darfur? |
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insidejob wrote: | http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7594
Ten Reasons Why "Save Darfur" is a PR Scam to Justify the Next US Oil and Resource Wars in Africa
by Bruce Dixon
Global Research, December 12, 2007
blackagendareport.com - 2007-11-27
The star-studded hue and cry to "Save Darfur" and "stop the genocide" has gained enormous traction in U.S. media along with bipartisan support in Congress and the White House. But the Congo, with ten to twenty times as many African dead over the same period is not called a "genocide" and passes almost unnoticed. Sudan sits atop lakes of oil. It has large supplies of uranium, and other minerals, significant water resources, and a strategic location near still more African oil and resources. The unasked question is whether the nation's Republican and Democratic foreign policy elite are using claims of genocide, and appeals for "humanitarian intervention" to grease the way for the next oil and resource wars on the African continent.... |
I read a report a couple of years ago about the Congo.. approx 2 Million dead in 10 years.. what was desturbing in the report was how it had become common after a shooting or battle for the victors to take the sweetmeats Heart Liver etc from the corpse's(they carry a narrow bladed "fish"- knife for this) of the enemy and store them in little nap sacks to eat later.Apparently some are quite surgical with their precision... In other word's! in Congo they have been cannibalizing each other for 10 years and no one could care less! you would think this would be a big story but no one wanted to touch it!
Were also not allowed to hear about the Rebel Groups the US is financing to fight the Sudanese Gov ...........or maybe its just the Sudanese Government slaughtering its own people for no apparent reason...!
Might as well be the KLA for all we are gonna hear about it!! _________________ LFJ is no antisemite or 9 11 truth critic He's anti Zionist Anti A Jones - its not his fault this heavily censored little forum has too many people calling themselves stupid titles & manufacturing self importance - any more than 2 people running this little audio less forum is absurd...
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:47 am Post subject: |
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China isn't playing American football. It needs to. Get rid of fixed exchange rates, work for less and stop supporting regimes which the US has blacklisted.
Until they do that they will not learn their lesson. There is video with which to start. I heard recently it is being upgraded to an A' Level in the UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xedkk1xvgeo |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Spielberg is criticisng China over Sudan but ignores the more obvious Tibet and Burma.
Which is why we have to take this as another attempt to take over Sudan's oilfields.
China are not stupid nor are they easy to bully.
After all they own more dollars than everyone else put together.
They can pull the plug anytime they want. But seeing as they have funded Bill Clinton and now Hilary i dont think the Chinese will be worried about Spielberg _________________
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Coordinated action is being sought against the Chinese by the Anglo-Americans.
The stories in the media regarding an athlete-Chambers- and steroid taking are geared to create the climate to in future to assert all Chinese are on steroids.
As if all athletes aren't forced onto drugs by the companies that sponsor them them...
We will probably get a re-run of the Olympics in 1980. They know now China is going for many golds. Why go to Beijing to be exposed. Boycotting them for 'crimes against humanity' may be difficult. McDonalds has already sealed contracts with Coca Cola... |
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LFJ Banned
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:10 am Post subject: |
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The great wall of indifference
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/the-great-wall-of-ind ifference-782537.html
By Jonathan Brown, Amol Rajan and Ben Russell
Friday, 15 February 2008
An international coalition of human rights activists has urged corporate sponsors of the Beijing Olympics to call the Chinese government to account over its support for Sudan or face a series of protests and consumer boycotts in the approach to this summer's Games.
As international condemnation mounted over China's reluctance to censure Khartoum for its conduct in Darfur, campaigners pressured multinational companies including Coca-Cola, McDonald's and Adidas, to end their "silent complicity" with the regime.
The new focus came after a letter that demanded China to use its extensive links with oil-exporting Sudan to press for peace in Darfur was sent to President Hu Jintao by a coalition of Nobel laureates, athletes, celebrities and politicians. The trenchant text, printed on the front page of The Independent, yesterday made further headlines around the world but received a cold welcome among those leaders best positioned to act on its message.
President Bush distanced himself from the letter, as well as the decision of the film director Steven Spielberg to stand down in his role as the Games' artistic director. Mr Bush said he regarded the Olympics as a "sporting event".
China broke its silence over the issue, saying it regretted the Hollywood star's resignation.
The country's state-owned media accused Western countries of exploitation, insisting the Chinese public were "disgusted" and "baffled" by attempts to influence policy ahead of the Olympics. A Foreign Ministry spokesman, Liu Jianchao, said the country would not be deterred in its mission to make the Games a success.
Sudan also leapt to the defence of its key trading partner and political ally. Ali al-Sadig, a Foreign Ministry spokesman, praised Beijing's role in the peacekeeping operation and claimed Spielberg's decision had been based on "wrong information".
The Independent contacted 18 of the corporate sponsors with British links yesterday. The overwhelming majority failed to return the calls or declined to comment while six issued statements defending their support for the Beijing Olympics. None indicated a willingnessto voice concerns directly to the Chinese government.
Coca-Cola said it preferred to give aid directly to the troubled region saying it felt it was not its role to "give governments suggestions about the foreign policy their country should follow".
The computer firm Lenovo expressed "great empathy for the people of Darfur" but declined to comment on the political situation. Adidas, the Sportswear manufacturer, and McDonald's both said the conflict could only be solved at a government level, while Panasonic insisted its support for the Olympic ideal was "independent of local contingencies".
A statement by Johnson & Johnson said: "Johnson & Johnson is dedicated to improving the health and well-being of people around the world. We do that best by developing products that help people live healthier lives."
In Britain, Tessa Jowell, the Olympics minister, said it was "reasonable" to use the publicity generated by the Games to push for Beijing to cut ties with the Sudanese regime. She praised the "eloquent" plea for action by the eight Nobel laureates but rejected calls for a boycott.
Darfur: the facts
* The conflict has affected more than three million people in Darfur and eastern Chad (US govt, EU, UN)
* 2.2 million people are displaced within Darfur (UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs)
* 15,000 people die each month (Coalition for International Justice)
* 400,000 have fled to refugee camps in neighbouring Chad (United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees)
* More than 20 per cent of children under five are suffering from severe malnutrition and many are dying each day (UN World Food Programme)
* Crude oil exports from Sudan to China more than doubled last year to top 200,000 barrels a day, with data showing that China now takes 40 per cent of the country's total output
* Only 50 per cent of people in need are receiving food assistance (UN World Food Programme)
* Critics accuse China of abetting mass killing in Darfur by using its power as a permanent member of the UN Security Council to stall or dilute bids to deal with the conflict. They also continue military relations with the Sudanese government
What the sponsors said...
Coca-Cola: "Not our role to give suggestions"
Lenovo: "Not Lenovo's place to comment on politics"
Adidas: "Governments have responsibility"
McDonalds: "United Nations should drive solution"
Panasonic: "Support for the Olympics is independent of local contingencies"
BHP Billiton: Failed to respond
Staples: Failed to respond
Snickers: Failed to respond
PricewaterhouseCoopers: "No comment"
Volkswagen: "I'll get German office to call you"
Visa: Failed to respond
Microsoft: Failed to respond
Samsung: Failed to respond
Eastman Kodak: Failed to respond
General Electric: Failed to respond
Omega/Swatch: Failed to respond
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insidejob Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: Racist tosh |
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Quote: | what was desturbing in the report was how it had become common after a shooting or battle for the victors to take the sweetmeats Heart Liver etc from the corpse's (they carry a narrow bladed "fish"- knife for this) of the enemy and store them in little nap sacks to eat later. Apparently some are quite surgical with their precision... |
I certainly don't believe this. It sounds like a load of racist rubbish that, frankly, gullible white people would believe.
Many people believed this rubbish that 1 million people in Rwanda died in 3 months because of 'tribal conflict'. If you did the calculations this would mean around 6 people being killed every second. |
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LFJ Banned
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Racist tosh |
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insidejob wrote: | Quote: | what was desturbing in the report was how it had become common after a shooting or battle for the victors to take the sweetmeats Heart Liver etc from the corpse's (they carry a narrow bladed "fish"- knife for this) of the enemy and store them in little nap sacks to eat later. Apparently some are quite surgical with their precision... |
I certainly don't believe this. It sounds like a load of racist rubbish that, frankly, gullible white people would believe.
Many people believed this rubbish that 1 million people in Rwanda died in 3 months because of 'tribal conflict'. If you did the calculations this would mean around 6 people being killed every second. |
If your reality sounds better without Cannibalism be my guest but your now a "Cannibalism denier"what would be the reason for this "propaganda"?... Some people say the Germans killed 10 Million in a couple a years.. of which 6 Million were Jews.. _________________ LFJ is no antisemite or 9 11 truth critic He's anti Zionist Anti A Jones - its not his fault this heavily censored little forum has too many people calling themselves stupid titles & manufacturing self importance - any more than 2 people running this little audio less forum is absurd... |
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | to take the sweetmeats Heart Liver etc from the corpse's (they carry a narrow bladed "fish"- knife for this) of the enemy and store them in little nap sacks to eat later. Apparently some are quite surgical with their precision... |
This is just a lot of ridiculous nonsense: 'some are quite surgical with their precision' and they had their 'nap sacks'.
And how easy is it to take hearts and liver out of someone's body? How much skill do you need? Are their factories producing these 'nap sacks'? Do they cook the meat or eat it raw?
Unless, this suddenly appeared during the conflict, it must have been a regular cultural practice. If so, don't you think we would have heard of this before or don't you think your story would have said so? Outside of conflict, who exactly are they going to get their hearts and livers from?
According to research by Joel A Rogers, cannabalism was widespread in Europe during the 100 Years War. Why do you think we don't hear much about that but are told that Africans were or are cannabals?
The purpose is obvious. Such propaganda encourages people in the West and around the world to regard Africans as sub-human. This reduces the amount of potential opposition and concern there otherwise may be to defending Africans against the exploitation, theft and murder committed or instigated by the Western elite. |
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LFJ Banned
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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insidejob wrote: |
The purpose is obvious. Such propaganda encourages people in the West and around the world to regard Africans as sub-human. This reduces the amount of potential opposition and concern there otherwise may be to defending Africans against the exploitation, theft and murder committed or instigated by the Western elite. |
I take your point and you put it rather well.
The only problem I have with it however is the article I read was calling for military intervention to stop it.. it stressed that the cannibalism had become almost a logical consequence of the very prolonged nature of the conflict and the logistic's,terrain etc
White people will eat each other too to survive but may I say just say there was no intention on my part to offend anyone. _________________ LFJ is no antisemite or 9 11 truth critic He's anti Zionist Anti A Jones - its not his fault this heavily censored little forum has too many people calling themselves stupid titles & manufacturing self importance - any more than 2 people running this little audio less forum is absurd... |
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: Racism? |
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Your acceptance that the cannibalism statement could be wrong is very welcome. But I'm not sure that having special knives to cut out people's heart is an act of desparation due to starvation. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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What a great headline
Steven who? China shrugs off Spielberg's stand
By Clifford Coonan in Beijing
Friday, 15 February 2008
We regret Steven Spielberg's decision but we don't need him to stage an excellent Olympics, was China's defiant response to the film-maker's resignation as artistic director of the Beijing Olympics this summer.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/steven-who-china-shrugs-o ff-spielbergs-stand-782538.html _________________ LFJ is no antisemite or 9 11 truth critic He's anti Zionist Anti A Jones - its not his fault this heavily censored little forum has too many people calling themselves stupid titles & manufacturing self importance - any more than 2 people running this little audio less forum is absurd... |
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