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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:18 am    Post subject: The End of Our Internet? Reply with quote

Love or hate him, one thing Mr AJ of Houston fame has always had damn straight is the issue of Internet2...or has he?

A superfast highway for superbig players...especially those with multi-billion dollar marketing plans.

Grassroots media? Innovative insightful individual websites like the very one I'm currently posting to? With Internet2 it's feared these sites will be a distant memory, as the possiblity of purchasing your own domain name, and then even getting a vague look-in on Google listing, fades into an ever corporatised miasma of MySpace-Meebo-Yahoo-Twitterisation; where the 'little guy' creative (not benefitting from a Murdoch backing to plea his net case) will simply go the way of all others and satisfy himself with a Space on a 'social networking site' to ease his creative pangs, rendering his website dream to the letters following a ' /'.

Will it be so dire? Will Internet 2 ring the death knell totally for individual website creativity?

Answers and protests in a viral-social-networking email to Mr. Murdoch please. Oh, and here too.

While we still can...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read that Times article.

It's going to happen whether we like it or not. I'm very worried about this idea of 'cloud computing', where there will be no need to store your own data on a hard drive, but entrust its storage to the internet itself.

As the last real bastion of free speech, the Internet as we know it has to be removed in order to break the current stream of information and knowledge we freely share amongst each other. Surely this fibre optic internet grid will pave the way for more regulation and less freedom for the user. I could be wrong, though.

I've heard Alex Jones rant about Internet2 before and I'm inclined to think he's a bit paranoid. I mean, we can already be tracked and traced on the current internet. However, if a whole bunch of new laws and regulations from governments are to go with this new system, which I'm sure is possible, then we'll be signing on to nothing more than a matrix of control. I mean, it's not as if big business (including ISPs) aren't already in bed with government.

I want to learn more about the implications of Internet2 before condemning it as something ominous. There's a chance it'll just be hyper fast internet and we can still share information freely like we can now.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure I'm following your reasoning there...

As for the article, here's a nice comment by a reader:

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Worst article about grid computing, ever! Completely misses what a grid is, and misleads the public into thinking they can get access to it.
Hi, I'm Dan Yocum. I work on grid technologies at Fermi National Accelerator Lab (http://www.fnal.gov), specifically FermiGrid (http://fermigrid.fnal.gov), which is a site on the Open Science Grid (http://www.opensciencegrid.org).
The "Grid" is *not* a just super fast network. Yes, it utilizes high bandwidth network equipment, but that's not the whole of it. The Grid also includes the computers at the end points of the network connections, as well as all the software necessary to run data analysis on those computers. That software includes the batch processing systems, the authentication and authorization middleware , the resource selection software (i.e., which sites on the grid has available CPU and hard drive space to submit a data analysis job to), the data transmission software, et al. I'm very disappointed in this article.

Dan Yocum, Batavia, USA

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there wasn't much reasoning at all!

I just don't know what to think about Internet2 at the moment. I started writing my first response and it began all pessimistic, but then I said AJ seems to rant about it without really knowing what the implications are going to be.

Let me put it this way - if Internet2 is going to promote more corporatism and less individual freedom, which is probable, as well as high speed downloads, sites like this are doomed. But I'm just not sure that it can happen because, just like when Napster went away, people found a way to continue file sharing nonetheless.

The pessimism in me usually wins, but I'll get back to you when I've read more about the grid system.

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