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9/11 Truth Movement vs. 9/11 Truth

 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: 9/11 Truth Movement vs. 9/11 Truth Reply with quote

9/11 Truth Movement vs. 9/11 Truth

Or, who are these people and why do they keep yelling at me?

By David Rovics

I found myself once again singing at an antiwar rally two weeks ago, and once again being confronted by a red-faced white man with an ominous hand-written sign reading, "9/11 was a lie." Most of the crowd was filing off for the post-rally march, aside from a few of my loyal fans who were sticking around for the rest of my set. Among them was the red-faced man, apparently not a fan, who walked towards the small stage with the wild-eyed certainty of a zealot.

"Wake up, David Rovics! David Rovics, wake up to the truth of 9/11!" He was screaming at the top of his lungs, standing about two feet from me. (I continued with the song.) In case I didn't get the message the first time, the red-faced man repeated his mantra. "Wake up! Wake up to the truth of 9/11!"

People like him, whoever he was, have become a fixture of antiwar and other protests since sometime soon after September 11th, 2001. They regularly call in to radio talk shows, they maintain many websites, produce innumerable documentaries, publish plenty of books, hold regular conferences, and show up with alarming predictability to heckle and denounce prominent progressive authors and activists at their speaking engagements. ..............

http://www.davidrovics.com/

Were there really Arab terrorists on board the planes? Yes. Did the CIA know an attack was imminent? Yes. I don't regret writing the song, or becoming a very minor celebrity within the 9/11 Truth Movement, because I think these questions needed to be asked, and answered. But while some questions can only remain unanswered until certain people within the US government become whistleblowers, other questions have been answered, and my answers (and those of most people who have looked into these things) and those of what now constitutes the Truth Movement differ wildly. Particularly because I have been seen by some as part of this movement (although I seem to be increasingly getting lumped into the "gatekeeper" camp), I felt compelled to write this essay.

The truth is, in fact, out there. Much of it is certainly still there to be discovered, but many fundamental, essential truths are already known. The truth -- that, for example, the CIA funded and armed Al-Qaeda and the Taleban, that a tiny minority of very wealthy people control much of the US government and the "mainstream" (corporate/"public") media, that the US military systematically goes around the world overthrowing democracies, propping up dictatorships, and killing millions of people with bombs -- is what the progressive media is reporting on hourly, daily, weekly or monthly. These are the truths that people in the US most need to "wake up" to. These are the truths that are systematically unreported or severely under-reported by the corporate press, which, even in the age of the internet, is still where the vast majority of people in the US get their news, and thus, their understanding of the world.

These corporate media entities and the genocidal, ecocidal plutocracy they serve are the "gatekeepers" that need to be exposed. The truths they are trying to hide from us are the truths that need to be understood, and acted upon. The progressive media that is trying to do just that needs to be supported, not undermined with essentially baseless accusations (legitimate criticisms and suggestions notwithstanding).

The people who are trying, with some degree of success, to undermine these basic endeavors of the progressive movement and the progressive media need to be exposed for what they are -- whether they fall into the category of well-meaning but misguided fanatics or undercover government agents quite purposefully and systematically working to spread disinformation and sow confusion and distrust. And, beyond any reasonable doubt, the "Truth Movement" contains both of these elements. To both of these groups I beseech you -- wake up! Wake up to the real, easily-verifiable conspiracies -- which are extremely big ones! -- and quit trying to distract us with all the nonsense about gatekeepers and controlled demolitions!

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewforum.php?f=8.........commen ts.

Get ready for the sanitised/kosher approved 9/11 tale..............coming here soon.!.......

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/04/395207.html?c=on#c192355

Amen to that!

The most sensible post on indymedia UK about '9/11 truth' ever!

Spot on!

Totally. Truthers might as well be funded, employed or managed by the US elite for the damage they have done and continue to do.
yup

One nutter does not change the facts............Andy..(from this site)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Follow up interview with David Rovics Reply with quote

There is a new interview with David Rovics on Indymedia that touches on 9/11 and other issues:

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/04/396101.html

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: David Rovics Reply with quote

David Rovics is (in my opinion) a gatekeeper himself and an idiot. He should "Wake up to the real, easily-verifiable conspiracies -- which are extremely big ones! -- and quit trying to distract us" by saying that "controlled demolitions" (or whatever brought the towers down) are not an important factor. What's more, unless I have misread him, he seems to think that bin Laden group, the "Al-Qaeda" had something directly to do with 9-11 and apparently he's not heard of the word Patsy other than in a female name.

http://www.answers.com/topic/patsy
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Patsy

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets call this:

When Bad Musicians Can't Play the Fiddle and still want a stage. Twisted Evil

You are giving good stage to bad musicians, too many liars, and want to talk and feel like a group. Question

Do you understand the word target? You can only control that which makes itself abundantly open and clear - a movement! Idea

If you do not understand just restep yourselves through the various stages of your "Shayler" episode. Confused

When you hook your wagon up to a star... Embarassed

Stay organizationally independent. Just say no and all that guff. Wink

Do not be part of a movement. Be a movement. Very Happy
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