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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: I'd like to volunteer as a mod here Reply with quote

I'll actually 'unbiasely' enforce the rules. I'm serious.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll even setup a Sandbox here for rule breakers so you wouldn't have to ban people.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you're even considered for the role you must agree to use your real name, so you will no longer be anonymous. This applies to all wishing to become a mod/join the editorial team etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Before you're even considered for the role you must agree to use your real name, so you will no longer be anonymous. This applies to all wishing to become a mod/join the editorial team etc.

Why would my real name be all important?

Besides my real name, what other objectives do you look for in a potential mod?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mods need to be impartial.

somehow I doubt if you could ever be.

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11927
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anybody can demonstrate where I've not been impartial, I'd like to see it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still waiting.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

still waiting for you to stop killtowning and click on this link that you've been avoiding for some time now....

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11927

what are you so scared of champ? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like Geoffrey Dahmer asking Gordon Ramsey for a job.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And one of the first thing I'll do is get rid of the trolls (like the two above) who are ruining this forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

comrade champ wrote:
And one of the first thing I'll do is get rid of the trolls (like the two above) who are ruining this forum.
There will be purges. They will be brutal. But it is necessary for the greater good. Watch your neighbour - are they having counter-revolutionary thoughts? Are they speaking out against your dear leader? Uncle champ is being undermined by the insidious plague of 'free speech'. Down with the curse of rational discourse! Forward the NPT revolution!
We will not debate with these people. We will destroy them. Let their accounts be banished to the gulag I will build for them - let them try their 'debate' there!
We must be united behind one vision - mine. An indoctrination sub-forum will be created for newcomers and a re-education sub-forum for those trolls I consider may be saved. September clues on a constant loop with "believe" and "Killtown is infallible" subliminally flashing up every five seconds.
Forward for the glory of the motherforum!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad the admin continue to allow the trolls to make a mockery out of this forum.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
And one of the first thing I'll do is get rid of the trolls (like the two above) who are ruining this forum.


Killtown, Killtown, Killtown.

How can I put this?
Imagine 911UK was an office and a mod was, for the sake of argument, a department manager.

You would not be welcome as the relief backup temporary covering-for-a-mate-who's-off-sick second tier lavatory attendant's assistant's assistant.

Promotors of fraud are of no use whatsoever to a campaign for truth.
Can you understand that simple statement, or does it just set your cognitive dissonance off again?

The day your name appears above the door here is the day 98% of the members leave. Although I'm sure Andrew Johnson and Prole Art * and one or two others would see it as a dream come true.
Be that as it may, it's never going to happen.

Your 'credibility' to that particular special interest - or even special needs - group may be high, but for the majority of rational people, you pitched into negative values long ago and have been consistently sinking lower ever since.

So give it a rest.
All you're continued whining and wheedling and
tiresome pleading is to no effect.
You no planes/media faker types are bad news and blatant fraudsters. Period.

Thank you for expressing an interest.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

killtown wrote:
Too bad the admin continue to allow the trolls to make a mockery out of this forum.

killtown - although I appreciate the fact that you're trying very hard to make a mockery of this forum, you really ought to realise that you're only making a mockery of yourself.

how about clicking on this link and answering my question?

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11927

still waiting champ....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's are the problems with your "job application" listed:

1) This is the a BRITISH 9/11 forum where all nationalities are welcome - would you be able to jet over whenever Tony or Ian wanted a meet up of moderators to discuss matters?

2) No one knows who you are and you refuse to reveal yourself even to your greatest fans

3) You are so biased that you define anyone who disagrees with you as "trolls" - add this to your promise to purge the forum of "trolls" if you were taken on as moderator and your unsuitability for the job should be pretty clear.

What you propose is to make the nineeleven.co.uk forum - well the Killtown forum (which already exists) where only your friends and followers would post.

This forum, in fact, is the only majot 9/11 forum on the web that tolerates your lot - and you abuse that kindess by demanding they tollerate no one but you.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefan wrote:
Here's are the problems with your "job application" listed:

1) This is the a BRITISH 9/11 forum where all nationalities are welcome - would you be able to jet over whenever Tony or Ian wanted a meet up of moderators to discuss matters?

2) No one knows who you are and you refuse to reveal yourself even to your greatest fans

3) You are so biased that you define anyone who disagrees with you as "trolls" - add this to your promise to purge the forum of "trolls" if you were taken on as moderator and your unsuitability for the job should be pretty clear.

4) What you propose is to make the nineeleven.co.uk forum - well the Killtown forum (which already exists) where only your friends and followers would post.

5) This forum, in fact, is the only majot 9/11 forum on the web that tolerates your lot - and you abuse that kindess by demanding they tollerate no one but you.

1) Email, PM, or IM should suffice. It's just a mod for a forum. It's not like it's a paid job.

2) So?

3) Lie, but that's what trolls do; they lie.

4) "

5) LoL

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) Email, PM, or IM should suffice. It's just a mod for a forum. It's not like it's a paid job.


The benefit of having all the moderators in the same country is they can meet face to face to deal with issues that may arise.

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2) So?


Full names are a pre-requisite for being a moderator here

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3) Lie, but that's what trolls do; they lie.

4) "


What exactly is your criteria for someone being a troll?

I've made every effort to engage you guys in reasonable debate - you ignore my questions.

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5) LoL


I'd be laughing too if it wasn't so tragic.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefan wrote:

1) The benefit of having all the moderators in the same country is they can meet face to face to deal with issues that may arise.

2) Full names are a pre-requisite for being a moderator here

3) What exactly is your criteria for someone being a troll?

4) I've made every effort to engage you guys in reasonable debate - you ignore my questions.

5) I'd be laughing too if it wasn't so tragic.

1) At the forum I'm admin, all the admin/mods live in different states and that's never been a problem for the forum, so don't see why it would be a problem at this forum.

2) It is a meaningless one unless you can convince me otherwise.

3) Jesus Christ, and the trolls wonder why I think they are either mentally retarded or blind.

Guess.

4) Cause you engage in troll behavior.

5) Yes, it's tragic the admin at this forum don't care.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown,
Can you please answer a simple question with a simple answer -

What criteria are you using when you acuse all who disagree with you here of being trolls?

It's not a tough one.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No not a tough one, just an annoying one since I've defined "troll" a bizzillion times now.

Why don't you guess what my definition of a troll is.

Come on "champ".

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK Killtown,
Let me make my request clearer:

Provide us with the reasoning behind you calling everyone who disagrees with you as a troll - i.e. an explanation which does not also incorporate yourself or your groupies.

I think what you have posted here is the wiki summary:

Quote:
someone who intentionally posts controversial or contrary messages in an on-line community such as an on-line discussion forum or group with the intention of baiting users into an argumentative response.


Now that's particuarly vague - our views are controversial to you as yours are to us - since we are on a board called 9/11 controversies this shouldn't be a shock.

Contrary messages? In other words disagreeing with you - well you disagree with us - again breaking no rules.

I prefer this part of the wiki artical lower down:

Quote:
The term troll is highly subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. The term is often used to discredit an opposing position, or its proponent, by argument fallacy ad hominem.


Bingo.

This is the truth behind this "troll" nonsense isn't it?

It's your latest round-the-back-door way of insulting people, and also a way to avoid answering questions which your hypotheses cannot stand up to -

"I don't answer trolls questions"

Was a little classic you treated us to the other day when you were caught with your pants down with a question which defeated your argument.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bingo.

This is the truth behind this "troll" nonsense isn't it?

Nope. Guess again.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not so sure, convince us otherwise -

If calling everyone who dares to disagree with you "troll" is not just badly disguised name-calling -

- let us know why the people you have called trolls fit the description you have given any more than you yourself fit it.

Specifically?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Killtown,
I'm not so sure, convince us otherwise -

If calling everyone who dares to disagree with you "troll" is not just badly disguised name-calling -

- let us know why the people you have called trolls fit the description you have given any more than you yourself fit it.

Specifically?

Come on, guess. If you've been paying attention to all my protest threads and posts (and I'm SURE you have), then you've must of seen my definition of what I think a "troll" is. Continuing to dishonest and/or being coy about my definition is just further proving my point about the trolls here.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stefan wrote:
Killtown,
I'm not so sure, convince us otherwise -

If calling everyone who dares to disagree with you "troll" is not just badly disguised name-calling -

- let us know why the people you have called trolls fit the description you have given any more than you yourself fit it.

Specifically?

Come on, guess. If you've been paying attention to all my protest threads and posts (and I'm SURE you have), then you've must of seen my definition of what I think a "troll" is. Continuing to be dishonest and/or being coy about my definition is just further proving my point about the trolls here.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Killtown wrote:
Stefan wrote:
Killtown,
I'm not so sure, convince us otherwise -

If calling everyone who dares to disagree with you "troll" is not just badly disguised name-calling -

- let us know why the people you have called trolls fit the description you have given any more than you yourself fit it.

Specifically?

Come on, guess. If you've been paying attention to all my protest threads and posts (and I'm SURE you have), then you've must of seen my definition of what I think a "troll" is. Continuing to be dishonest and/or being coy about my definition is just further proving my point about the trolls here.

Whoops, double post. Forgot you can't edit posts in this section.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have guessed:

My guess is that you are using it as a way to avoid questions, and at times as no more than an ad hominem attack.

I've been folowing your threads - they go like this:

* You make a claim on shaky ground

* Someone points out the weakness in your argument or asks you a question

* You repeat the claim without answering the persons genuine points

* They repeat the question

* You call them a troll

* They repeat the question

* You say you don't answer trolls questions

* They lose their rag and admonish you

* You say "exactly what I'd expect from a troll"

What's in all this for you Killtown? You're wasting everyone's time.

If you really believed what you said, you'd have no problems answering people's questions.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown wrote:
Stefan wrote:
Killtown,
I'm not so sure, convince us otherwise -

If calling everyone who dares to disagree with you "troll" is not just badly disguised name-calling -

- let us know why the people you have called trolls fit the description you have given any more than you yourself fit it.

Specifically?

Come on, guess. If you've been paying attention to all my protest threads and posts (and I'm SURE you have), then you've must of seen my definition of what I think a "troll" is. Continuing to dishonest and/or being coy about my definition is just further proving my point about the trolls here.


I have never seen you describe one of your co- NPT believers as a troll no matter what they say.
At least recently, I haven't seen you try to actually form a proper argument to back up your beliefs either. At most you post something then just dismiss all critics of your post as trolls.
If you can't cope with your ideas being attacked by people in broad agreement with the notion of 911 being 'a bit rum', how on earth do you think you're going to convince the rest of the world you're right?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefan wrote:
I've been folowing your threads - they go like this:

* You make a claim on shaky ground

* Someone points out the weakness in your argument or asks you a question

* You repeat the claim without answering the persons genuine points

* They repeat the question

* You call them a troll

Why do you continue to lie? Show me ONE instance where I called someone a troll for merely disagreeing with my claims. Come on "champ", show me ONE.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killtown -

When Tcm Mistress answered the straight question

"What do you think hit the WTC?"

with - "A big @ss plane"

You quoted her/him and said "The trolls are out to play again".

That's ONE example - you've done it many times.

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