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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: WeAreCHANGE attacked by Nico Haupt Reply with quote

WeAreCHANGE attacked at Ground Zero AGAIN!

Within the last couple of weeks during our weekly Saturday vigil’s at ground zero there has been a dangerous individual causing us a lot of problems. His name is Nico Haupt mostly known for his no plane research and his actions need to be made public for our safety.


After the Time Square Bombing that took place at the very place that WeAreCHANGE does their street actions each Saturday night, Nico came out to our Ground Zero Vigil with a huge sign saying “We Did The Time Square Bombing.” Nico tried to associate us with the terrorists who committed a horrendous and cowardly act on this city of New York. He continued for weeks with the police department ignoring him, and decided to raise his efforts in trying to destroy our message of peace and truth.


Nico verbally sexually harassed our female members, bit one of our members nose, choked and punched one our members and committed other horrendous acts all while the police at all times let him walk away without checking his I.D. There is video of all his actions that will be published in the coming days to show what we have to go through and incase of another altercation the public will know truth behind the matter.


This past Saturday Nico came down wearing a fake Hitler mustache on his face, verbally harassing our members. He then walked up to Sabrina Rivera and I Luke Rudkowski charging at our faces trying to put the Hitler mustache on our face, there was a scuffle and when the cops where called, Nico tried to run away. The cops came and then according to them because they did not see the incident we both were issued summons and will have a day in court.


WeAreCHANGE is a peaceful and nonviolent group which is founded on the principles Gandhi’s and Martin Luther King’s non-violence movement. Nothing can stop the WeAreCHANGE movement in making history and standing up for the people, these recent incidents just show how much of an impact we are making and how far certain interests will go in order to stop us. Nothing will stop WeAreCHANGE and with every attack on us we will grow and push harder in the name of justice.


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i decided to make a new topic for this due to what is reported to of happened. but i also put it here to as the topic heading was irresistable.

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14320
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nico Haupt harassing people on the subway: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DVn4dWT1Vrc

More here from truthaction.org

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gareth, regarding WAC's accusations against nico i will wait to see the video.

but to post nico's subway video as an example of harassment is a serious case of pot calling the kettle names.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's alex jones 'verbally harassing' nico and all 'no planers'



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Cultwatch have dropped their link to Nico Haupt Reply with quote

One positive outcome of Nico Haupt's recent outrageous behavior is that 911 Cultwatch have dropped their link to him, though I do wonder why it's taken 5 months since things like his disruption at St. Marks was pointed out to them... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the mustache incident


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i cannot wait for we are changes version. we might get the whole scene.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I but there were a few punches in the full version!

Get real people, since when has attempting to place a fake tache on someone been classed as assault,other than the legal definition!

Insulting,with the Eva Braun comment more like!

Noticed Alex Jones is making the most of this.

Is there footage where NH says WAC did the deed at GZ can we see that too?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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since when has attempting to place a fake tache on someone been classed as assault


theres to many if's to be certain if the assault claim was valid. but if we are change show their version and if it shows more than this other clip(which seems to start mid-way through the trouble) then we will know more.

as for the tache i agree it is'nt assault. but it was an attack on a member of we are change. invading someones space and forceing a tash on their face when it was obvious that person did'nt want it, and done in a way to delibrately target and provoke. who knows how bad it would of got if it was'nt for others intervening and calling over the cops.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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since when has attempting to place a fake tache on someone been classed as assault


theres to many if's to be certain if the assault claim was valid. but if we are change show their version and if it shows more than this other clip(which seems to start mid-way through the trouble) then we will know more.

as for the tache i agree it is'nt assault. but it was an attack on a member of we are change. invading someones space and forceing a tash on their face when it was obvious that person did'nt want it, and done in a way to delibrately target and provoke. who knows how bad it would of got if it was'nt for others intervening and calling over the cops.


It may have been merely what has been shown, so it follows your line in bold is speculation/myth perpetuating Wink til an alternative version of this is forthcoming-shall we just wait and see?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the evidence so far, it's not hard to see Nico as a bit of a sad case. If such is reality. I'm a bit of a NPer myself but it's hard to see anything here that presents the cause.
Just endless aggro - just like they want

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul wright wrote:
I'm a bit of a NPer myself..............


That's news to me Paul, can you elucidate or maybe point me to somewhere you've already done that.

BTW Nico is clearly COINTELPOO
Am I allowed to say that?

And best alternatively filmed or ignored.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Infighting. Sad really.

Someones' plan is working well anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and wearechange accuse no planers of harrassment!

picked up at:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04242008/news/regionalnews/bush_basher...


BUSH BASHER SMASHES DISABLED TEEN: COPS
[sic: according to Criminal Records m08635912 at 100 Centre Street
Gary aka German Talis was released free on 04/23 evening and has
his Court Case on June 4th)

April 24, 2008 --

A man heckling First Lady Laura Bush and daughter Jenna outside the 92nd Street Y was arrested after he punched a wheelchair-bound girl whose parents had told him to shut up, authorities said yesterday. German Talis, 22, was shouting obscenities at the Bushes, who were leaving the building Tuesday, when he crossed paths with Wendy and John Lovetro and their daughter Maureen, 18, who has cerebral palsy...



..."He began yelling about Iraq and Iran at Jenna Bush. She was waving at the crowd. I told the guy, 'What are you doing? Shut up. This is about a child and books,' " said John Lovetro. "He was unperturbed. I said, 'Get out of here! You're being a moron!' "

The next thing he knew, Talis was allegedly punching Maureen - a fan of the first lady since meeting her in 2004.

"I heard my daughter hysterical yelling, 'He's hitting me!' " said Wendy Lovetro.

"He punched her on the shoulder blades, but that wasn't enough," she said...

...The two men fought as the president's family drove off. Cops broke them up and busted Talis on charges of assault and resisting arrest...

* Source Blog

* Posted on: Thu, Apr 24 2008 11:45 AM
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
paul wright wrote:
I'm a bit of a NPer myself..............


That's news to me Paul, can you elucidate or maybe point me to somewhere you've already done that.

BTW Nico is clearly COINTELPOO
Am I allowed to say that?

And best alternatively filmed or ignored.


Why, even the FBI are joining us - No evidence of 4 planes -

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14470

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
paul wright wrote:
I'm a bit of a NPer myself..............


That's news to me Paul, can you elucidate or maybe point me to somewhere you've already done that.

BTW Nico is clearly COINTELPOO
Am I allowed to say that?

And best alternatively filmed or ignored.

Hi Tony
I've not properly presented it here but I was cottoned on to webfairy's stuff back in 2002 or somewhere, sharing a Yahoo forum with Rosalee and continued along the line
I've been an NPTer all the way along, but not willing to promote that cos it's divisive as proven, that's all
So Nico is a little apeshit with it? No problem. there's always a sensible approach

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
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since when has attempting to place a fake tache on someone been classed as assault


theres to many if's to be certain if the assault claim was valid. but if we are change show their version and if it shows more than this other clip(which seems to start mid-way through the trouble) then we will know more.

as for the tache i agree it is'nt assault. but it was an attack on a member of we are change. invading someones space and forceing a tash on their face when it was obvious that person did'nt want it, and done in a way to delibrately target and provoke. who knows how bad it would of got if it was'nt for others intervening and calling over the cops.


FWIW in NYC the legal definition of assault is merely threatening violence or unwanted physical contact. Battery is the part that comes with the actual violence. It's assault IMHO.

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and wearechange accuse no planers of harrassment!

picked up at:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04242008/news/regionalnews/bush_basher...


BUSH BASHER SMASHES DISABLED TEEN: COPS
[sic: according to Criminal Records m08635912 at 100 Centre Street
Gary aka German Talis was released free on 04/23 evening and has
his Court Case on June 4th)

April 24, 2008 --

A man heckling First Lady Laura Bush and daughter Jenna outside the 92nd Street Y was arrested after he punched a wheelchair-bound girl whose parents had told him to shut up, authorities said yesterday. German Talis, 22, was shouting obscenities at the Bushes, who were leaving the building Tuesday, when he crossed paths with Wendy and John Lovetro and their daughter Maureen, 18, who has cerebral palsy...



..."He began yelling about Iraq and Iran at Jenna Bush. She was waving at the crowd. I told the guy, 'What are you doing? Shut up. This is about a child and books,' " said John Lovetro. "He was unperturbed. I said, 'Get out of here! You're being a moron!' "

The next thing he knew, Talis was allegedly punching Maureen - a fan of the first lady since meeting her in 2004.

"I heard my daughter hysterical yelling, 'He's hitting me!' " said Wendy Lovetro.

"He punched her on the shoulder blades, but that wasn't enough," she said...

...The two men fought as the president's family drove off. Cops broke them up and busted Talis on charges of assault and resisting arrest...

* Source Blog

* Posted on: Thu, Apr 24 2008 11:45 AM


That looks more like a libelous accusation than video evidence. FWIW there's no mention of this in the police report, only in the NY Post and on Fox to my knowledge.

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well even a crippled grandmother could have whipped up that video proving that Nico attacks Goose Lame in the time that has passed. The obvious conclusion is that the Goose Lame people are loosey goosey with reality and make claims like Sophia Shafquat.

I have waited and waited for that episode but it does not exist except in Lukes deluded mind. Like the Keystone cops they entertain but is that really what Goose Lamers are all about?
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siegel, do you care to translate that into English for the rest of us?
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