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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Officials say Iran attack "unavoidable" Reply with quote

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US to Declare War on Iran - Summer 2008
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14598



Stepping up the rhetoric. What a sad sad world we live in.

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JERUSALEM (Reuters) - An Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear sites looks "unavoidable" given the apparent failure of sanctions to deny Tehran technology with bomb-making potential, one of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's deputies said on Friday.


"If Iran continues with its programme for developing nuclear weapons, we will attack it. The sanctions are ineffective," Transport Minister Shaul Mofaz told the mass-circulation Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper.

"Attacking Iran, in order to stop its nuclear plans, will be unavoidable," said the former army chief who has also been defence minister.

It was the most explicit threat yet against Iran from a member of Olmert's government, which, like the Bush administration, has preferred to hint at force as a last resort should U.N. Security Council sanctions be deemed a dead end.

Iran, which denies seeking nuclear weapons, has defied Western pressure to abandon its uranium enrichment projects. The leadership in Tehran has also threatened to retaliate against Israel -- believed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal -- and U.S. targets in the Gulf for any attack on Iranian turf.

Mofaz also said in the interview that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has called for Israel to be wiped off the map, "would disappear before Israel does."

Mofaz's remarks came as he and several other senior members of Olmert's Kadima Party prepare for a possible run for top office should a corruption scandal force the Israeli prime minister to step down.

Iranian-born Mofaz has been a main party rival of the Israeli prime minister, particularly following the 2006 elections when Olmert was forced to hand the defence portfolio to Labour, his main coalition partner, at Mofaz's expense.

Mofaz, who is also designated as a deputy prime minister, has remained privy to Israel's defence planning. He is a member of Olmert's security cabinet and leads regular strategic coordination talks with the U.S. State Department.

Israel sent warplanes to destroy Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981.

A similar Israeli sortie over Syria last September razed what the U.S. administration said was a nascent nuclear reactor built with North Korean help. Syria denied having any such facility.

Independent analysts have questioned, however, whether Israel's armed forces can take on Iran alone, as its nuclear sites are numerous, distant and well-fortified.

(Editing by Ori Lewis and Charles Dick)



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Price of Oil jumps due to Israeli threat to bomb Iran (reports the bbc)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7440536.stm
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Price of Oil jumps due to Israeli threat to bomb Iran (reports the bbc)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7440536.stm


Let's hope the oil cartels don't twig that all they have to do is threaten to bomb a sovreign country ... to double their profits Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Price of Oil jumps due to Israeli threat to bomb Iran (reports the bbc)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7440536.stm


Let's hope the oil cartels don't twig that all they have to do is threaten to bomb a sovreign country ... to double their profits Rolling Eyes


It depends on which country. Non oil rich countries obviously wouldn't affect the price but obviously Iran is very rich (although more so in gas since its oil output is falling). But in this case, Iran controls the Strait of Hormuz which carries 30% of the world's supply of crude from the Middle East to the markets and it has stated the Strait will be closed if attacked. We can expect fuel shortages and therefore food supply problems if that happens. Best to stock up on tins of food and powdered milk as soon as Israel strikes. Then again, if Israel struck, Russia and China would very quickly pile in which is probably why the US and Israel have dithered over this issue for so long.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Iran demands Security Council action on Israel threat Reply with quote

"Mofaz's threat against Iran was the most explicit from a member of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's government, which has preferred to hint at a possible use of force.

Khazaee's letter said the Security Council's history of failing to act against Israel "has emboldened it to continue and even increase its unlawful behaviors and policies."

https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/06/400616.html
http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKN0731886420080607

"Such a dangerous threat against a sovereign state and a member of the United Nations constitutes a manifest violation of international law and contravenes the most fundamental principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and, thus, requires a resolute and clear response on the part of the United Nations, particularly the Security Council."

mind you...... check this also from today!!!!!!!!

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Israel backs down on Iran threat
Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:25:04
Israeli deputy war minister, Matan Vilnai
Israeli officials have condemned deputy prime minister Shaul Mofaz's threats against Tehran, calling them 'irresponsible' and 'cynical'.

Ignoring IAEA reports confirming Tehran's non-deviation from declared nuclear activities, the deputy prime minister threatened Iran on Friday with a military attack if it "continues its nuclear weapons program".

In an interview with public radio, deputy war minister Matan Vilnai called Mofaz's remarks the "cynical use of central strategic issues for internal political reasons".

"Turning one of the most strategic security issues into a political game, using it for the internal purposes of a would-be campaign in Kadima, is something that must not be done," Vilnai added.

"These declarations are irresponsible and do not represent the position of our government," said a senior war official quoted on public radio Sunday......... http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=59184&sectionid=351020104



Iran demands Security Council action on Israel threat

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Jun 07, 2008 12:40 EST

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Iran demanded action from the U.N. Security Council about an Israeli threat to attack its nuclear sites if it continues uranium enrichment, according to a letter released Saturday by Iranian U.N. Ambassador Mohammad Khazaee.


Israeli Transport Minister Shaul Mofaz was quoted on Friday in an Israeli newspaper saying that an attack on Iran looks "unavoidable" given the apparent failure of sanctions to deny Tehran technology with bomb-making potential.

"Such a dangerous threat against a sovereign state and a member of the United Nations constitutes a manifest violation of international law and contravenes the most fundamental principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and, thus, requires a resolute and clear response on the part of the United Nations, particularly the Security Council," Khazaee's letter to Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, dated June 6, said.

Iran has defied Western pressure to abandon its uranium enrichment projects, which it says are for peaceful electricity generation.

Tehran has also threatened to retaliate against Israel, believed to have the Middle East's only atomic arsenal, and U.S. targets in the Gulf, if there is any attack on Iran.

Mofaz's threat against Iran was the most explicit from a member of Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's government, which has preferred to hint at a possible use of force.

Khazaee's letter said the Security Council's history of failing to act against Israel "has emboldened it to continue and even increase its unlawful behaviors and policies."

Israel is widely assumed to have a nuclear arsenal but has never confirmed it publicly. Khazaee said that "poses the most immediate and serious threat that the world and the region are facing."

(Writing by Patricia Zengerle; editing by Stacey Joyce)

Source: Reuters North American News Service

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I should start buying my tinned food now...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Price of Oil jumps due to Israeli threat to bomb Iran (reports the bbc)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7440536.stm


Bet they don't report this!!!!:

Special to the Star-Telegram
"What’s been happening since 2004 is very high prices without record-low [oil] stocks. The relationship between U.S. [oil] inventory levels and prices has been shredded and become irrelevant."
— Jan Stuart, Global Oil Economist, UBS Securities

http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/659081.html

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Iran demands Security Council action on Israel threat Reply with quote

[quote="TonyGosling'') mind you...... check this also from today!!!!!!!!

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Israel backs down on Iran threat
Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:25:04
Israeli deputy war minister, Matan Vilnai
Israeli officials have condemned deputy prime minister Shaul Mofaz's threats against Tehran, calling them 'irresponsible' and 'cynical'.

Not 'out of the question' but 'irresponsible'; allowing Iran the opportunity to request action by the Security Council (though it's unlikely the SC will kick up much of a fuss - after the attack, sure, but not before....)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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scienceplease wrote:
Price of Oil jumps due to Israeli threat to bomb Iran (reports the bbc)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7440536.stm


Bet they don't report this!!!!:

Special to the Star-Telegram
"What’s been happening since 2004 is very high prices without record-low [oil] stocks. The relationship between U.S. [oil] inventory levels and prices has been shredded and become irrelevant."
— Jan Stuart, Global Oil Economist, UBS Securities

http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/659081.html


On BBC radio 4 this morning: "Oil prices are rising because of investors". Investors have bet on oil prices rising, so they are busily talking up the price of oil. Some time soon, there will be a glut of oil (because of the world wide depression caused by the mortgage mis-selling) and the Oil prices will crash down. To an investor, up or down doesn't matter: it's the size of movement that's important. Larger the movement, the more money to be made in a shorter time frame... (as long as you're in the know).

Looks like the 1920s/1930s all over again.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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scienceplease wrote:
Price of Oil jumps due to Israeli threat to bomb Iran (reports the bbc)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7440536.stm


Bet they don't report this!!!!:

Special to the Star-Telegram
"What’s been happening since 2004 is very high prices without record-low [oil] stocks. The relationship between U.S. [oil] inventory levels and prices has been shredded and become irrelevant."
— Jan Stuart, Global Oil Economist, UBS Securities

http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/659081.html


On BBC radio 4 this morning: "Oil prices are rising because of investors". Investors have bet on oil prices rising, so they are busily talking up the price of oil. Some time soon, there will be a glut of oil (because of the world wide depression caused by the mortgage mis-selling) and the Oil prices will crash down. To an investor, up or down doesn't matter: it's the size of movement that's important. Larger the movement, the more money to be made in a shorter time frame... (as long as you're in the know).

Looks like the 1920s/1930s all over again.


The oil price probably will fall as western demand decreases due to the high price but whether China and Asia will reduce there need for oil is another matter and at the moment supplies are tight. However, the supply issue isn't one which is much talked about by the media at the moment; I think they are being told not to, but output has been flat for the past 2 years even though demand has been increasing by at least 2% per year.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To war or not to war with Iran: that is the temptation
Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:19:33
By Ismail Salami, Press TV
Over the recent weeks, US officials and the vassal Israeli regime have ramped up their aggressive rhetoric against the Islamic Republic of Iran, making their usual threat that they will attack Iran's nuclear facilities if the country continues its nuclear program.

Israeli Transportation Minister Shaul Mofaz, a former defense chief, told Yediot Aharonot on Friday that Israel would have no choice but to attack Iran given the failure of UN Security Council sanctions in curbing its nuclear program.
Although Israeli officials backed from their threat, it is not the first time threats of this nature are made by the Israeli regime.
Central to their aggressive rhetoric is the legend that Iran is a threat to world peace by running a clandestine nuclear weapons program for which they have no concrete evidence whatsoever.
Now the question which keeps pestering any inquisitive mind in this regard is: why does a country which contributes to insecurity in the region and which has arsenals of nuclear warheads allow itself to level such accusations and make such threats which run counter to the very essence of the UN Charter?
Iran's ambassador to the United Nations, Mohammad Khazaei, filed a complaint to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon demanding a Security Council condemnation of Israel.
"Such a dangerous threat against a sovereign state and a member of the United Nations constitutes a manifest violation of international law and contravenes the most fundamental principles of the Charter of the United Nations, and, thus, requires a resolute and clear response on the part of the United Nations, particularly the Security Council."
To war or not to war with Iran: that is not the question but the temptation. Before his term of presidency expires, George Bush is adamant on completing his circle of military adventurism in the name of combating terrorism. Tempted by the vast energy resources in Iran, he wishes to fulfill his last aspiration, attack Iran and expropriate the country's resources. To attack Iran is a destructive temptation for Mr. President for he is very well aware that he has little chance to manipulate US public opinion into believing his lies............

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