Guardian gatekeeper - conspiracy top 10

[TonyGosling]

Pathetic.
And to think the guardian has published things like this.
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
Don't they read their own paper???


Conspiracy theory top 10
Conspiracy theories - the truth about what people believe is more out-there than you might think
July 31, 2008 8:55 AM
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/2008/07/conspiracy_theory_top_ten.htm l
A couple of years ago a Guardian colleague told me a piece I had co-written on the terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre had been cited as evidence by conspiracy theorists that 9/11 was really a CIA plot. To be honest I was rather tickled that the makers of the infamous "documentary" Loose Change had - however ridiculously - come to this conclusion. So I'm rather disappointed to discover I'm only implicated in the UK's second most widely believed conspiracy theory.

Yes, it would seem that more people (48% of 1,000 British adults interviewed) actually believe Area 51 exists to investigate aliens than the claim that the Twin Towers were brought down by a controlled demolition (a mere 38%). Though that result may have something to do with the survey being carried out by 20th Century Fox as part of its marketing campaign for the new X-Files film, I Want To Believe. That more than half of those interviewed also believe in aliens and telepathy makes me wonder if the poll wasn't conducted at a sci-fi convention. It's a conspiracy, I tell you........

[Andrew.]

Moon Landings
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"Exploration of the moon stopped because it was impossible to continue the hoax without being ultimately discovered: And of course they ran out of pre-filmed episodes.

No man has ever ascended higher than 300 miles, if that high, above the Earth's surface. No man has ever orbited, landed on, or walked upon the moon in any publicly known space program. If man has ever truly been to the moon it has been done in secret and with a far different technology.

The tremendous radiation encountered in the Van Allen Belt, solar radiation, cosmic radiation, temperature control, and many other problems connected with space travel prevent living organisms leaving our atmosphere with our known level of technology. Any intelligent high school student with a basic physics book can prove NASA faked the Apollo moon landings.

If you doubt this please explain how the astronauts walked upon the moons surface enclosed in a space suit in full sunlight absorbing a minimum of 265 degrees of heat surrounded by a vacuum. NASA tells us the moon has no atmosphere and that the astronauts were surrounded by the vacuum of space.

Heat is defined as the vibration or movement of molecules within matter. The faster the molecular motion the higher the temperature. The slower the molecular motion the colder the temperature. Absolute zero is that point where all molecular motion ceases. In order to have hot or cold molecules must be present.

A vacuum is a condition of nothingness where there are no molecules. Vacuums exist in degrees. Some scientists tell us that there is no such thing as an absolute vacuum. Space is the closest thing to an absolute vacuum that is known to us. There are so few molecules present in most areas of what we know as "space" that any concept of "hot" or "cold" is impossible to measure. A vacuum is a perfect insulator. That is why a "Thermos" or vacuum bottle is used to store hot or cold liquids in order to maintain the temperature for the longest time possible without re-heating or re-cooling.

Radiation of all types will travel through a vacuum but will not affect the vacuum. Radiant heat from the sun travels through the vacuum of space but does not "warm" space. In fact the radiant heat of the sun has no affect whatsoever until it strikes matter. Molecular movement will increase in direct proportion to the radiant energy which is absorbed by matter. The time it takes to heat matter exposed to direct sunlight in space is determined by its colour, its elemental properties, its distance from the sun, and its rate of absorption of radiant heat energy. Space is NOT hot. Space is NOT cold.

Objects which are heated cannot be cooled by space. In order for an object to cool it must first be removed from direct sunlight. Objects which are in the shadow of another object will eventually cool but not because space is "cold". Space is not cold. Hot and cold do not exist in the vacuum of space. Objects cool because the laws of motion dictate that the molecules of the object will slow down due to the resistance resulting from striking other molecules until eventually all motion will stop provided the object is sheltered from the direct and/or indirect radiation of the sun and that there is no other source of heat. Since the vacuum of space is the perfect insulator objects take a very long time to cool even when removed from all sources of heat, radiated or otherwise.

NASA insists the space suits the astronauts supposedly wore on the lunar surface were air conditioned. An air conditioner cannot, and will not work without a heat exchanger. A heat exchanger simply takes heat gathered in a medium such as freon from one place and transfers it to another place. This requires a medium of molecules which can absorb and transfer the heat such as an atmosphere or water. An air conditioner will not and cannot work in a vacuum. A space suit surrounded by a vacuum cannot transfer heat from the inside of the suit to any other place. The vacuum, remember, is a perfect insulator. A man would roast in his suit in such a circumstance.

NASA claims the spacesuits were cooled by a water system which was piped around the body, then through a system of coils sheltered from the sun in the backpack. NASA claims that water was sprayed on the coils causing a coating of ice to form. The ice then supposedly absorbed the tremendous heat collected in the water and evaporated into space. There are two problems with this that cannot be explained away. 1) The amount of water needed to be carried by the astronauts in order to make this work for even a very small length of time in the direct 55 degrees over the boiling point of water (210 degrees F at sea level on Earth) heat of the sun could not have possibly been carried by the astronauts. 2) NASA has since claimed that they found ice in moon craters. NASA claims that ice sheltered from the direct rays of the sun will NOT evaporate destroying their own bogus "air conditioning" explanation.

Remember this. Think about it the next time you go off in the morning with a "vacuum bottle" filled with hot coffee. Think about it long and hard when you sit down and pour a piping hot cup from your thermos to drink with your lunch four hours later... and then think about it again when you pour the last still very warm cup of coffee at the end of the day.

The same laws of physics apply to any vehicle travelling through space. NASA claims that the spacecraft was slowly rotated causing the shadowed side to be cooled by the intense cold of space... an intense cold that DOES NOT EXIST. In fact the only thing that could have been accomplished by a rotation of the spacecraft is a more even and constant heating such as that obtained by rotating a hot dog on a spit. In reality a dish called Astronaut a la Apollo would have been served. At the very least you would not want to open the hatch upon the crafts return.

NASA knows better than to claim, in addition, that a water cooling apparatus such as that which they claim cooled the astronaut’s suits cooled the spacecraft. No rocket could ever have been launched with the amount of water needed to work such a system for even a very short period of time. Fresh water weighs a little over 62 lbs. per cubic foot. Space and weight capacity were critical given the lift capability of the rockets used in the Apollo Space Program. No such extra water was carried by any mission whatsoever for suits or for cooling the spacecraft.

On the tapes the Astronauts complained bitterly of the cold during their journey and while on the surface of the moon. They spoke of using heaters that did not give off enough heat to overcome the intense cold of space. It was imperative that NASA use this ruse because to tell the truth would TELL THE TRUTH. It is also proof of the arrogance and contempt in which the PTB holds the common man.

What we heard is in reality indicative of an over zealous cooling system in the props used during the filming of the missions at the Atomic Energy Commissions Nevada desert test site, where it is common to see temperatures well over 100 degrees. In the glaring unfiltered direct heat of the sun the Astronauts could never have been cold at any time whatsoever in the perfect insulating vacuum of space.

NASA claims that the space suits worn by the astronauts were pressurized at 5 psi over the ambient pressure (0 psi vacuum) on the moon's surface. We have examined the gloves NASA claims the astronauts wore and find they are made of pliable material containing no mechanical, hydraulic, or electrical devices which would aid the astronauts in the dexterous use of their fingers and hands while wearing the gloves. Experiments prove absolutely that such gloves are impossible to use and that the wearer cannot bend the wrist or fingers to do any dexterous work whatsoever when filled with 5 psi over ambient pressure either in a vacuum or in the earth's atmosphere. NASA actually showed film and television footage of astronauts using their hands and fingers normally during their EVAs on the so-called lunar surface. The films show clearly that there is no pressure whatsoever within the gloves . . . a condition that would have caused explosive decompression of the astronauts resulting in almost immediate death if they had really been surrounded by the vacuum of space.

If you don't believe it try it yourself . . . it is a very simple experiment and does not require a rocket scientist to perform. These are just two of over a hundred very simple and very easy to prove valid scientific reasons why NASA and the Apollo Space Program are two of the biggest lies ever foisted upon the unsuspecting and trusting People of the world.

Most, if not all, of the photos, films, and videotape of the Apollo Moon Missions are easily proven to be fake. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of photography, lighting, and physics can easily prove that NASA faked the visual records of the Apollo Space Program. Some are so obviously fake that when the discrepancies are pointed out to unsuspecting viewers an audible gasp has been heard. Some have actually gone into a mild state of shock. Some People break down and cry. I have seen others become so angry that they have ripped the offending photos to shreds while screaming incoherently."
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[simplesimon]

Interesting post Andrew, can we have a source please?

I think I know enough to say that the writer uses some phrases that give away a limited scientific understanding - the amount of heat "absorbed" is not measured in degrees, for example, but it doesn't necessarily invalidate the article. I'm essentially convinced it was a hoax, btw.

A pity Rodin is still banned, I think he knows a thing or two about this sort of thing and might have had something useful to say.

[truthseeker john]

[numeral]

Source: http://www.hourofthetime.com/majestyt.htm
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[Andrew.]

Dear Simon,

Interesting post Andrew, can we have a source please?

>It was from an e-mail Simon.

I think I know enough to say that the writer uses some phrases that give away a limited scientific understanding - the amount of heat "absorbed" is not measured in degrees, for example, but it doesn't necessarily invalidate the article. I'm essentially convinced it was a hoax, btw.

>As far as I know it was from a scientist representing a group of scientists that were interested in the Apollo missions and could see what was going on. A bit like the 9/11 truth movement without the internet then and them possibly doing seminars. And it was written by one of them in layman terms so in could be understood by most people

A pity Rodin is still banned, I think he knows a thing or two about this sort of thing and might have had something useful to say.

>I saw a video of actual footage of astronauts faking the distance from the Earth from the capsule by using the port hole and a piece of cardboard to make a crescent shape then turning the lights off and with the camera set back from the port hole. When at first you looked at the port hole all you could see was a small part of the Earth, blue and white (low orbit) Then with the camera at the back of the capsule with the capsule lights turned off you could see a small slightly crescent blue and white shape surrounded in darkness, to give the “appearance only of high orbit”
But this video was only to give credibility to another group, to gain peoples confidence and trust in them to sell more dis-info. Not that most of them realised it though. I’m not sure but it could have been Scientologists or similar. Also this video did show how through the NASA corporate private or collective, compartmentalisation was used to hide it from most of the workers within the whole space programme.



>I know that you understand this Simon but I though it an opportunity to post it.

>If you look at how corporate private collective organizations are all compartmentalised, which most people see as the normal way of doing business today. It only needs a relatively few people at the top directing or misdirecting each department. Departments are accepted as the norm nowadays and each department told on a need to know basis (rumours and intended misinformation abound) of course this is unnecessary and deceptive but that’s how THEY the hierarchy enslaving you get away with some of what they do.

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>Space is NOT hot. Space is NOT cold.


(edit)
I should add that there is enough in that article to prove that the Apollo programme as explained by NASA was a hoax without going on about it being a genuine none hoax, not withstanding other issues it could reveal.

[Andrew.]

Dear numeral:
Since we are talking about gatekeepers Scientology & similar and now UFO’s you can add
Alex's Merklinger and Fintan Dunne involved in the UFO deception, complicit or non complicit.

Fintan has a habit of removing posts and has banned / suspended my account even though his forum does not show this.
Also they have what they refer to as flame wars (pretend fights and arguments) with themselves registered under several different names and lending support to other deceptions. Some of them and to give an example have given an extensive critique (Patrick s McNally) of the holocaust gas chambers to gain credibility with some and then goes on to deny more obvious things about banking and the fed reserve ect. It looks as though some of them work in groups supporting one issue and flatly denying another. Just leading people in circles.

[kbo234]