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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: More voting 'irregularities' Reply with quote

I'm sure voting machines is up somewhere on the Forum, but I can't find it, so I've posted this latest twist:

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Find-Freedom.htm?At=037493&From=News

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Top GOP insiders spill the beans about Rove Cybergate Reply with quote

I have a small e-mail group I send out to - mostly trying to educate prominent members of the Electoral Reform Society (some of whom are very (ahem) trusting - and are prepared to accept e-elections as the supposedly necessary and unavoidalble price of securing STV - it isn't, but that is another story).

I mostly send stuff about vote-theft gleaned from OpEdnews, Black Box Voting, etc. Here is what i sent out the other day: please contact me if you would like to recieve future occasional bulletins.
Starts:

They always poo-poo 'conspiracy theories' (hypotheses, actually) by claiming that if such and such a conspiracy had happened then insiders would surely have come forward:

Well they do - lots of them often, e.g. the printers in Florida who eventually reported use of inferior paper and misallignment to ensure the 'hanging chads' election-switching debacle and distractionism (and pretext for subsequent HAVA e-elections cam).

Now top level Republican IT operatives are blowing the whistle, much focussed on Ohio 2004 (where the evidence is not just huge but VERY well documented with a militant campaign, active lawyers, and three good Congresspeople behind it - Ron Paul, Dennic Kuchich and Ron Conyers) - AND also every election since 2000.

Former McCain Insider Charges Election Fraud. Implicates McCain, Bush, Cheney and Rove

Check out the fantastically authoritative revelations of Stephen Spoonamore -- a lifelong Republican, erstwhile member of McCain's campaign, and a prominent expert on computer fraud. Spoonamore has copious hard evidence revealing that Bush/Cheney stole a number of key races, starting with Florida eight years ago. He has named names, and has the goods to back up every claim. Plus, he knows quite a lot about plans to use illegal methods to make McCain America's next president (which is the reason he quit McCain's campaign).

See also
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Conspiracy-Theorist-by-Josh-Mitteldor f-080831-377.html

Will the mainstream 'media' mediate this or occlude it? Please FW this to any TV or radio journalists you know of.

But at least we have the internet: Masses of youtube videos and articles accessible through http://www.velvetrevolution.us/prosecute_rove/
including 8 forthright and knowledgeable 'naming names' segments from Stephen Spoonamore's coming out interview.

Any 'election coverage' which doesn't highlight this crucial behind-the-scenes manipulation (and many other scams, voter-suppression technques, etc) and the struggle to limit these manipulatioons and techniques and prosecute them, is just keep-them-quiet visual wall-paper for the plebs.

Best wishes,
Keith Mothersson
Campaign for Visible Ballots

Then I sent a follow-up mailing lauding Spoonamore further and including this, taken from the full 11 page transcript: http://www.velvetrevolution.us/prosecute_rove/images/spoonamore_interv iew.doc


I think Stephen Spoonamore is THE most coherent and brilliant analyst I have ever heard on the subject of electronic fraud (He spends 30 hours a week trying to get credit card fraud down below background two and a half percent!)

" There is no system, electronic in the world that cannot be hacked. I’ve spent my entire life building or hacking electronic systems. There are entire companies dedicated to “ethical hacking” if you want to call it that. There is no system in the world, none, that cannot be hacked. If you give me the team of my choice of 8 people, in 1 week I will get any piece of data you want in the world. End of discussion.
Inteviewer - Well then how do you secure such a piece of equipment?

S - You don’t. You use paper ballots."

I - Ok, um…

S - I can’t make it any clearer than this. You cannot have secure electronic voting. It doesn’t exist."

Then at the end he brings it back to the human issue of DENIAL - which also afflicts many worthy members of the ERS, in my opinion:

" I - Is it a republican issue? If what you say is true, who wants to steal the elections?

S - I certainly know that in old statistical information it seems that in every single bizarre circumstance where exit data, where polling data, informational data swings, it has all been in favor of republicans, but not the sort of republicans that I want to see in office at all. These are people who lie and people who cheat. That is not the conservative way. Conservatives conserve things. We are respectful and we are constitutionally based. You know what the real problem is? People do not want to believe that people want to steal elections in this country."

The 8-part YouTube sequence of his tour de force interview is easily downloaded - start with Part 1 and gthe rest are within clickable reach:
Segment 1: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyEfovA404

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having just watched Kevin Spacey's new movie Recount about the 2000 election debacle in Florida, I found Spoonamore's comment that the 'dimpled chad' episode which went all the way to the Supreme Court was just so much fluff to obscure the real election theft by voting machine very telling.

As he points out, why would there even need to be 'proprietary' software for a vote counting program (which need only be a simple addition function) let alone why would it contain lines of code introducing negative values? And why would "software updates" ever be routinely necessary during an Election Day when the machines are live? Because of course their purpose is to steal Elections - but only for Republicans.

My one reservation is that piling the blame onto Karl Rove no matter how well deserved a prison sentence would be in his case obscures the fact that he's only an administration Party functionary and not a prime mover.

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