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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: ISC 7/7 report criticising MI5 shelved - for legal reasons |
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wriggle, wriggle, wriggle. Just like the BBC 7/7 Documentary being censored.
This is how murderers go unpunished, how racism is fuelled, and how world wars can start.
Terror attack report shelved
Wednesday, 10 Sep 2008 11:51
A report into the conduct of intelligence services before the July 7th 2005 London terrorist attacks has been delayed.
The intelligence and security committee (ISC) was due to publish its review today but due to legal reasons it has been 'forced' to shelve the plans.
A spokesman for the Cabinet Office said the publication was dependent on the completion of court case which has yet to happen.
He confirmed that once the case had taken place the review would be published.
A statement on the committee's website stated the publication was a matter for the prime minister Gordon Brown, adding: "No decision can be made on the timing of the publication of the ISC's report until separate decisions, which are not matters for the government, are made on the reporting restrictions which have inhibited publication so far.
"The government will publish the report as soon as it can consistent with this."
The committee has previously stated that the chances of preventing the deadly attacks "might have been greater had different investigative decisions been taken in 2003-05".
It is claimed that the police and MI5 had many opportunities to identify two of the suicide bombers involved in the terrorist attack.
Mohammad Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer were two of the four men involved in the bombings.
Fifty-two people were killed on July 7th 2005 when the suicide bombers detonated home-made explosives on London's transport network.
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/opinion-former-index/policing-and-crime /terror-attack-report-shelved-$1240044.htm
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Critical report on anti-terrorism intelligence shelved
· Inquiry into MI5 and police points to missed tip-offs
· Prosecutors look at next move in liquid bomb case
* Richard Norton-Taylor and Vikram Dodd
* The Guardian,
* Wednesday September 10 2008
A critical report on the conduct of the police and MI5 in the run-up to the July 7 attacks on London has been shelved for legal reasons, the Guardian has learned.
The intelligence and security committee, which consists of senior peers and MPs, was due to have published its report today. It is understood to relate to communications between MI5 in London and West Yorkshire police.
The committee, known as the ISC, undertook to draw up a report last year after concluding that it was possible the chances of preventing the July 7 2005 attacks in London "might have been greater had different investigative decisions been taken in 2003-05".
It emerged that MI5 and the police had many opportunities to identify Mohammad Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer, two of the suicide bombers.
The report is believed to criticise the exchanges of information between those leading the investigation into the plotters and West Yorkshire police, and how potentially crucial tip-offs were ignored or lost.
Officials familiar with the issues say the ISC report, which has been seen by Gordon Brown, is now unlikely to be published until next year.
The shelving of the report saves the police and counter-terrorism officials from fresh embarrassment as they consider whether to retry several men over the alleged plot to blow up airliners over the Atlantic.
Prosecutors and police will meet today to draw up a strategy after a jury at Woolwich crown court failed to reach verdicts after 56 hours of deliberations.
On Monday three men were convicted of conspiracy to murder, one was wholly acquitted, and the jury reached no verdicts on four other men, despite them having recorded suicide videos.
Scotland Yard believed the evidence they had collected amounted to a very strong case.
The crown had claimed all eight men were involved in a plot to smuggle liquid bombs on to planes heading to North America, with the intention of exploding them on board with potentially catastrophic effect for the 1,500 passengers and crews.
Those alleged to be involved in the plot were arrested on August 9 2006.
The decision to act then was made for two reasons, the source said yesterday: on August 9 2006 covert devices in the cell's bomb factory in an east London flat picked up one man recording a suicide video; and in Pakistan Rashid Rauf, believed to be a key figure in the plot, was arrested at the request of the Americans, a move which it was feared could tip off the London-based cell that the authorities were on to them.
The source said both events led to the decision to make the arrests, but the US action had not led to crucial evidence being lost.
"Even if [the surveillance operation] had gone on for a few more days we would not have found anything better as evidence than what was found in the first 24 hours," the source said.
The two ringleaders were caught with a USB computer memory stick and diary outlining planning for the plot and for the liquid bombs and bypassing airport security. Also recovered within hours by police were the suicide videos recorded by six of those who went on trial.
Whitehall officials were last night examining whether they could gain a control order against the only man who was wholly acquitted.
Mohammed Gulzar had been alleged by the crown to have been a key figure in the plot, and flew in from South Africa on a false passport.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/sep/10/8
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Britain shelves critical report on anti-terrorism intelligence
Posted: 7:33p.m IST, September 10, 2008
Washington, Sep 10 (ANI): The intelligence and security committee of Britain has shelved a critical report on the conduct of the police and MI5 in the run-up to the July 7 attacks on London for legal reasons.
The Guardian reported that the intelligence and security committee, which consists of senior peers and MPs, was due to have published its report today.
It is understood to relate to communications between MI5 in London and West Yorkshire police.The committee, known as the ISC, undertook to draw up a report last year after concluding that it was possible the chances of preventing the July 7, 2005 attacks in London might have been greater had different investigative decisions been taken in 2003-05. It emerged that MI5 and the police had many opportunities to identify Mohammad Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer, two of the suicide bombers. The report is believed to criticise the exchanges of information between those leading the investigation into the plotters and West Yorkshire police, and how potentially crucial tip-offs were ignored or lost.Officials familiar with the issues say the ISC report, which has been seen by Prime Minister Gordon Brown, is now unlikely to be published until next year. The shelving of the report saves the police and counter-terrorism officials from fresh embarrassment as they consider whether to retry several men over the alleged plot to blow up airliners over the Atlantic. (ANI)
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Nobody wants to take the blame, oh not another Warren Commision.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Matthew Norman: Why are the police allowed to be a law unto themselves?
The problem is that we have no clue what the force is up to, and no mechanism to find out
Thursday, 11 September 2008
At this stage of his political career, the only advice worth offering the Prime Minister is to ensure that he has the hemlock with him when he locks the study door in case the trusty Luger jams. But for those of a less fatalistic mindset, a more constructive suggestion would be this. Afore ye go, Gordon, and in pursuance of Tuesday's opaque promise to jettison the ways of New Labour, for God's sake do something about the police.
Of course he wouldn't dream of it. All politicians are petrified by the muscle flexed by the force and its cheerleaders at the Sun whenever the faintest squeak about challenging this cosiest of cartels is heard. Kenneth Clarke wanted to crush the Police Federation, last of the great trade union baronies albeit technically no union at all, had he stayed at the Home Office longer, and he was a political have-a-go-hero if ever there was. But if he had had a go, a panicky John Major would have quickly told him to back off, get behind the cordon sanitaire and... well, let the police handle it themselves.
For all the rumbling row about the backdated pay rise, slavering flattery is the monotone our leaders have exclusively struck since Margaret Thatcher politicised them by loosing them on the striking miners. The British police are the best in the world, they trill without Tom Robinson's engaging sarcasm, and we don't believe all those stories we've heard. Many of us do, though, and further believe that what has so fractured the relationship between the police and the public that they nominally serve is the dearth of scrutiny that stems in turn from the lack of political will to control them on our behalf.
The problem isn't that all officers are workshy, racist, trigger-happy thugs who prefer to spend their days eating doorstep sandwiches in the canteen and doling out speeding fines than catching criminals. Only a hybrid of superannuated Wolfie Smith and right-wing shock jock could take so cretinously simplistic a line. The problem is that we have no clue what they're up to, and no mechanism to find out.
This week alone, further evidence for this comes in triplicate. The High Court is considering the killing of Mark Saunders, the alcoholic barrister shot by Met marksmen in Chelsea after repeatedly firing his own shotgun. Clearly this was nothing on the scale of the de Menezes catastrophe that Sir Ian Blair so brazenly survived to prosecute his internal war with Tarique Ghaffur, whom he has suspended for the only offence for which an officer can ever be punished (highlighting alleged failures by the police, in this case to treat dark-skinned officers as if they were white).
What we don't know about Mr Saunders's death is if it was an error at all – whether he committed "suicide by cop" or whether marksmen overestimated the lethalness of the threat he posed. And the reason we don't know is that the Independent Police Complaints Commission allowed the Met eight days grace, during which those concerned could compare notes and co-ordinate their stories, before starting its enquiry – an almost satirical distortion of evidence-gathering rules, whether or not the High Court finds it in breach of human rights law. In fact, that's cobblers. Had it delayed for eight nanoseconds we still wouldn't know, because that pliant body's raison d'être is not to police the police, but to lend a transparent fig leaf of credibility to their ritual vindication. If the IPPC reckoned that brief suspension was sufficient penalty for the officers who shot dead Harry Stanley in Hackney nine years ago, for holding a carrier bag containing a sawn-off chair leg, it was never odds on to recommend censure, let alone prosecution, for those who killed Mr Saunders.
Meanwhile, a report by the ISC committee of peers and MPs into communication failures between West Yorkshire police and MI5 before the London bombings of 7 July 2005 has been abandoned "for legal reasons", whatever they might be. The PM has read the document, which apparently implies that the bombings may have been avoidable, but prefers to keep it to himself, possibly for fear of distressing any poor police darlings already traumatised by a jury's scepticism regarding the guilt of those charged with conspiring to blow up planes with bombs made from formula baby milk and contact lens cleaner.
The humiliating failure of yet another major terrorist prosecution is something else for which no officer will ever be held accountable, just as none will be punished for the wrongful conviction of Barry George or any of the perpetual miscarriages that erode residual faith in the justice system. In the case of the airline bomb plot, it might very well be that Scotland Yard played a blinder but was undermined by factors beyond its control. But in the absence of proper scrutiny, as in the case of Mr Saunders, how does anyone form a judgement?
By now (by paragraph two, in fact) some sensitive flower from the Association of Chief Police Officers, and some queeny Police Federation hysteric, will be composing the outraged response that traditionally follows a piece of this kind, drawing attention to the selfless devotion of those they represent to protecting us from harm. Yet no one sane disputes the gratitude owed to those whose job it is to keep us safe, and patting officers on the head for doing what they're paid to do is a massively tiresome distraction from the futile business of trying to hold them accountable when they don't do what we pay them to do, or do what we pay them not to do.
I may be wrong about this, as I am about most things, but from the osmotic evidence that tends to be the most reliable guide to something as nebulous as national mood, I sense a burgeoning appetite for the taming of the police; that whether it is the comparatively trivial (that estimated 30 per cent of officers on the sick due to "stress"), the farcical (the continued presence of that posturing buffoon Ian Blair), the plain disgraceful (shooters threatening to hang up their holsters if a colleague is punished for a fatal error), or the cowardly (officers hiding beneath the skirts of that wretched IPPC), a huge chunk of the populace has had it with the police being a law unto themselves.
If so, the verity that going to war with the law is political suicide is no longer a verity but a misreading, and a clear populist opening exists for a politician with the stomach to clean out those Augean stables without puking too violently at the stench of self-protective secrecy. But that would take courage, and when it comes to that precious commodity, Gordon's pen, as we all know, is sharper than his sword.
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Committee Membership
The Committee's cross–party membership from both Houses is appointed by the Prime Minister, in consultation with the leaders of the two main opposition parties. The Chairman of the Committee is the Right Horrable Margaret Beckett MP. Support to the Committee is provided by an unelected and anonymous clerk and ditto. secretariat in a centre for global organised crime known as the Cabinet Office.
Committee Members
Rt Hon Margaret Beckett MP (chair).
Rt Hon Michael Ancram QCDL MP.
Rt Hon Sir Alan Beith MP.
Mr Ben Chapman MP.
Rt. Hon. Lord Foulkes of Cumnock.
Rt Hon George Howarth MP.
Rt Hon Michael Mates MP.
Mr Richard Ottaway MP.
Ms Dari Taylor MP.
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