Flight 93 transcripts

[uselesseater]

Due to the release of the recordings of the events on flight 93 i was wondreing what others thoughts were on the credibility of these. Seems like they go along with the official version pretty much, have they been released in full?

[orestes]

Major points that have been raised include.

(Good source here: http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=532320 )

1) Muslims repeat the Shahadah when faced with death ('There is no God but Allah', I believe), they do not say 'God is great' as they do on the tapes at the end repeatedly. This is pretty important I think. Fanatics don't make such mistakes.

2) Cockpit voice recordings are side by side with air traffic control transcripts. They are separate recordings. See the source for details.

3) The other aircraft responds to the call 'did you understand that' in the affirmative. The said material was in Arabic.

4) Source questions that no mention was made of a bomb being on board. I have heard the beginning at least of this recording on the net before and it is said in an Arabic accent clearly. Which isn't to say it was genuine of course, and at the end of the article the source claims there are discrepancies.

5) The 'instructions' are stupid. Things like 'up, up, up, no down, down, down'. Why are they even trying if this is the best they can do?

6) They suggest to cut off the oxygen when the fight starts. This is not what you do apparently. Again, source gives details.

Transcript:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4904600.stm

None of these are definitive I believe, but it would be very easy to fake. Two points of my own.
a) These were the transcripts that only the families were allowed to hear a couple of years (?) ago. Why? There is no way of identifying anyone. Maybe one of the pilots is killed, or incapacitated, but that is all.
b) There is no personal communication between the hijackers. Not one sentence. Not even about what they are doing. Everything is in single words or phrases. This isn't impossible, but it does make voice recognition pretty difficult surely. It also minimises the risks of the script raising questions that would have to be asked, if it was produced later.

In sum, next to no information, dodgy use of Arabic, nothing to be verified elsewhere, nothing conclusive.