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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:31 am    Post subject: Call For Clear Objectives from an anonymous user Reply with quote

From: XXXXXXX XXXXX
To: TonyGosling
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007
Subject: Re: BBC World Affairs interference.
Hello Tony,

I've looked at some of YYYYY's posts, and I agree with your assessment of his abilities. I certainly would like to see him become a moderator, but I'm not sure that I would be much use as one, because I don't feel that I have the kind of overall scope that YYYYY has, or his apparent tolerance.

Rather than more moderators, what I would like to see is a re-formulation, by the organizers, of the objectives of the movement; objectives which place more emphasis on the need to spread the word, rather than to conduct internal debates with those who share the same basic view—that the truth has not been told—but who often disagree about what should or should not constitute the main thrust as to why we feel this way.

I don’t know if you remember Ned Sherrin’s That Was the Week That Was (TW3); it was where David Frost and one or two others got their start. Bernard Levin was one of the team, and his section of the programme had him taking on a group of experts, on a particular subject, and acting mostly as a Devil’s Advocate. He almost always came out on top, because he seemed to have the ability to make the group argue amongst themselves, mostly about trivial things, rather than sticking to the main points of the topic.

What this movement needs to do, more than anything else, is to set up targets, and concentrate on reaching them and getting them to listen to the overall logic of what we have to say, not to involve them in an analysis of the dust, for example, but to persuade them that the collapses of all three buildings could not have been caused just by two aeroplanes hitting two of them. These targets should be individual journalists, MPs, civil servants, etc.

Talking amongst ourselves doesn't seem to be cutting it.

Take care,

XXXXX

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: TW3 - That Was The Week That Was Reply with quote

Here it is as implicitly requested long ago. David Frost, Bernard Levin, Millicent Martin and others....

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8702984119494273719

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Call For Clear Objectives from an anonymous user Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
From: XXXXXXX XXXXX
To: TonyGosling

Rather than more moderators, what I would like to see is a re-formulation, by the organizers, of the objectives of the movement; objectives which place more emphasis on the need to spread the word, rather than to conduct internal debates with those who share the same basic view—that the truth has not been told—but who often disagree about what should or should not constitute the main thrust as to why we feel this way.


Hi XXXXX

The "movement" is a nebulous concept embracing a wide variety of issues. As such, it does not have formal organisers - rather it is down to individuals to campaign as they see fit.

From Jan 2006 to July 2008 the British 9/11 Truth Campaign focused on trying to get a credible political message out there and campaigning for a new inquiry. Unfortunately, despite many people's hard work over these years, the campaign had to be dissolved precisely because a few people did indeed spend all their time debating the minutiae of what might have happened and arguing about the thrust of the campaign, rather than focusing on spreading the basic message.

However, all is not lost. Ian Henshall (author of 911 Revealed) and Ian Neal (who was instrumental in building the movement) are now taking a credible campaign forward. If you're interested in helping, please PM them.

Regards

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Talking amongst ourselves doesn't seem to be cutting it.


But it helps to encourage and hang loose. Not all of us are in large truth groups where we can share info and latest news.

I think we are all wondering how as individuals, small groups, uk group or even worldwide how we move forward.
I am ok leafleting letterboxes then it suddenly dawned on me that I drive my car 3hrs a day so that is now emblazoned with 9/11 websites and very effective it has been. As its a rather odd shaped vehicle it always attracts attention. The brain is always saying wonder what i can try next.
Love the guys who got on the tannoy at Wallmart in the US pronouncing 9/11 inside job and Would Dick Cheney come to reception as he is wanted for crimes against humanity

Any more ideas at whatever level always worth posting as someone might take it up. Hatsoff had a good one that we havent tried yet and that was to go around Liverpool City Centre with a large 9/11 banner,get filmed by all the cctv cameras then ask the police under the freedom of information act to gives us a copy. Not done that one yet but am hoping to take a placard and place it in front of a city webcam so that anyone logging on to the webcam will see a 9/11 statement. must be loads of fixed webcams in London. Its a case of keeping the ball rolling.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What this movement needs to do, more than anything else, is to set up targets, and concentrate on reaching them and getting them to listen to the overall logic of what we have to say, not to involve them in an analysis of the dust, for example, but to persuade them that the collapses of all three buildings could not have been caused just by two aeroplanes hitting two of them. These targets should be individual journalists, MPs, civil servants, etc.

Talking amongst ourselves doesn't seem to be cutting it.


Sorry I missed this thread. Absolutely spot on XXXXXX imho. Salute

IMO the 911 truth campaign in the UK reached its peak at grassroots level in September 2006 at Conwy Hall with the David Ray Griffin visit and TV coverage on the Heaven & Earth show.

The 911 truth campaign in the UK desparately needs leadership and working together otherwise the outstanding and remarkable past achievements will have been for nothing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This struggle has always been, and will always be, in the sphere of consciousness. We'll be in the slip-stream.

From an organizational perspective, a cloud of motivated, unpredictable, informed, ingenious individuals is far better and far harder to control than any hierarchical pyramid-like structure. This isn't some politburo.

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