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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for posting Thermate and Redadare. Another professional expert banging the truth drum. CAN YOU NOT HEAR OBAMA!! _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:24 pm Post subject:
This is an important man to have talking 9/11 Truth.
Remember the name and the status (couldn't be higher from our point of view).......Major General Albert Stubblebine, Ex-Head of all US Army Military Intelligence.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:06 am Post subject:
Although this is a good step in the right direction, I find it quite odd that Stubblebine, ex-head of US intelligence, is talking about physical-anomalies of 9/11 and not the intelligence-anomalies of 9/11. Like Able Danger, the multiple ignored warnings the US had beforehand, the August PDB and all the other intelligence related evidence.
I know he has photographic analysis experience, but why concentrate on the over-emphasised physical evidence. Why not leave that to A's and E's and Pilots for 9/11 truth?
One thing that always worries me about the pentagon is the fact that they confiscated tapes from the area immediately.
It was rumoured in truth type circles a couple of years ago that within the movement, focus would be set upon the idea of no-plane at the pentagon so they could diffuse all 9/11 truth by releasing crystal clear images of a "plane" when it appeared as though the public pressure was really building for evidence of it.
I know they released the five frames video but they will surely keep a card or two up their sleeve. Maybe that ambiguous-tape release was to create more doubt.
They release a better, clearer tape and then BAM all efforts scuppered once again.
I always try to remember that they would have included doubts over the official story in their planning. The Pentagon, US intelligencia central, would be the ideal place for creating the strawman of 9/11.
The two police men in the Pentacon film said that although it didn't match the official story's flight path, they both independently of each other saw a plane.
I remember reading a Guardian article about him years ago and it was scathing. _________________ Tooth Fairy denier
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Major General Albert Stubblebine could be a bit of a nutcase unfortunately.
I looked up the Wikipedia link, and it said "Stubblebine and his wife, psychiatrist Rima E. Laibow, M.D., founded the Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF), 'a non-profit corporation devoted to protecting and promoting health freedom'. They claim to expose dangerous prescription drugs and vaccines etc. promoted by large pharmaceutical companies, along with food contaminated by drugs. NSF lobbies against Codex Alimentarius and in favour of DSHEA."
That sounds like my kind of guy, and definitely NOT a nutcase _________________ In the end, it's not the words of your enemies you will remember, but the silence of your friends. Martin Luther King
Scott Tips President of the National Health Federation gave an excellent presentation at the recent AV2 event, during which Ian Crane was presented with the Health Freedom Hero Award by the Board of the National Health Federation for his efforts to expose the Codex Alimentarius agenda in the UK & Europe. It was the first time I've ever seen Crane lost for words!
I spoke with Scott Tips at the bar at the end of AV2 and he told me that in 2008 this award had been presented to Senator Ron Paul.
Scott Tips President of the National Health Federation gave an excellent presentation at the recent AV2 event, during which Ian Crane was presented with the Health Freedom Hero Award by the Board of the National Health Federation for his efforts to expose the Codex Alimentarius agenda in the UK & Europe. It was the first time I've ever seen Crane lost for words!
I spoke with Scott Tips at the bar at the end of AV2 and he told me that in 2008 this award had been presented to Senator Ron Paul.
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Ian attacks Stubblebine's wife for her ideas on health and then goes on to make the connection that Stubblebine used to be in the 'psyops' business.
OK.
....but what possible advantage could it represent for the powers-that-be for a man with Stubblebine's history to step forward and come out with the charge that 9/11 was an 'inside job'?....which, in effect, he does.
......Are we going to see another video of him next week washing his hair in a bucket of jam sandwiches? ....or auditioning in a tutu for a role in 'The Dance of The Sugar Plum fairies'?
......they'll need to come up with something pretty good to undo the damage Stubblebine's done to advocates of the 'official 9/11 narrative'
Actually I think its great this General is speaking out. The goats angle could be a serious piece of PysOps so I wouldn't take it literately. I have heard the "No-Planes-at-Pentagon"-is-a-PysOp-Ruse theory and frankly I think it doesn't matter: any doubt is sufficient to allow calls for a new independent enquiry. The whole matter could be cleared up in half a day if the US Government allowed inspection of the aircraft debris and take a few serial numbers off equipment (like for every other crash in history (except for 9/11)). The fact that this hasn't been done means we have to doubt the official story.
"Ian attacks Stubblebine's wife for her ideas on health and then goes on to make the connection that Stubblebine used to be in the 'psyops' business."
So does a Mr Fintan Dunne. But also Fintan will not address the so called vitamin and supplement modifications angle without duplicity. As for Ian, I would not like to make further comment about this.
...I know he has photographic analysis experience, but why concentrate on the over-emphasised physical evidence. Why not leave that to A's and E's and Pilots for 9/11 truth?
Perhaps he chooses to remain alive & enjoy what remains of his pension?
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One thing that always worries me about the pentagon is the fact that they confiscated tapes from the area immediately.
I know they released the five frames video but they will surely keep a card or two up their sleeve. Maybe that ambiguous-tape release was to create more doubt.
They release a better, clearer tape and then BAM all efforts scuppered once again.
I always try to remember that they would have included doubts over the official story in their planning. The Pentagon, US intelligencia central, would be the ideal place for creating the strawman of 9/11.
The two police men in the Pentacon film said that although it didn't match the official story's flight path, they both independently of each other saw a plane.
Planes can release missiles?
CIT are on to a winner, IMO; the Pentagon has had plenty of opportunities to release video and clear themselves. I'm rather surprised they haven't contracted Spielberg to give them a hand...
As for Major General Stubblebine, psy-op wallahs have had plenty of time to smear and smother - he's been on patriotsquestion911.com almost since its inception.
Goats? Baaaaaaa! _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
"Timely Demise to All Oppressors - at their Convenience!" - 'Interesting Times', Terry Pratchett
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:36 pm Post subject:
Andrew. wrote:
.....So does a Mr Fintan Dunne.
Dunne is as dodgy as they come IMO. I wouldn't trust him one inch.
I was present when Ian crane was elected chairman of 9/11 Truth (UK & Ireland) in the winter of 2005/2006.
He is a great activist and as straight as a die, again IMO.
One thing I did find amusing though was watching David shayler on an internet talk show.
Another guest on screen with DS was the laconic South London comedian Arthur Smith. David was earnest, garrulous and glowing (as he now does). Smith was gently mocking everything David said.
At some point Arthur Smith said, "David, seeing as how you're Jesus.....satan must also, presumably, be amongst us?"
"Yes", said David.
"Oh", replied Arthur, somewhat surprised at this reply, " And who would that be then?"
"Ian Crane", said David, without missing a beat.
.......funniest moment of the year so far for me.
Presumably Ian rejected the godhead. Must have told DS something he really didn't want to hear.
Anyway, fair play to David Shayler for his whistleblowing and his 9/11 Truth work in the early days.
He's lost us all now though. If he sorts out this (what shall we call it?) 'identity crisis' all will be forgiven.......hopefully.
So jolly effective is 'smear & smother' - just as the 'illuminated' ones would wish us all to do... _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
"Timely Demise to All Oppressors - at their Convenience!" - 'Interesting Times', Terry Pratchett
And since he correctly in my view says that people are going to much trouble to implement codex, I just hope that after such a long time he see's that they would and have already done so, to so called vitamins and supplement modification.
And perhaps he shouldn’t laugh at some things. Maybe he and others should watch the excellent film “Revolver” by Guy Ritchie. About our ego’s but then also! understand who the character sam gold is, the one no one ever sees.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject:
redadare wrote:
Item7 wrote:
Major General Albert Stubblebine could be a bit of a nutcase unfortunately.
I looked up the Wikipedia link, and it said "Stubblebine and his wife, psychiatrist Rima E. Laibow, M.D., founded the Natural Solutions Foundation (NSF), 'a non-profit corporation devoted to protecting and promoting health freedom'. They claim to expose dangerous prescription drugs and vaccines etc. promoted by large pharmaceutical companies, along with food contaminated by drugs. NSF lobbies against Codex Alimentarius and in favour of DSHEA."
That sounds like my kind of guy, and definitely NOT a nutcase
Anyone who promotes anything alternative to the mainstream gets regarded by the mainstream as a nutcase.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject:
Andrew. wrote:
"Ian attacks Stubblebine's wife for her ideas on health and then goes on to make the connection that Stubblebine used to be in the 'psyops' business."
So does a Mr Fintan Dunne. But also Fintan will not address the so called vitamin and supplement modifications angle without duplicity. As for Ian, I would not like to make further comment about this.
If he's controlled opposition it would be good to see some evidence for that.
"Ian attacks Stubblebine's wife for her ideas on health and then goes on to make the connection that Stubblebine used to be in the 'psyops' business."
So does a Mr Fintan Dunne. But also Fintan will not address the so called vitamin and supplement modifications angle without duplicity. As for Ian, I would not like to make further comment about this.
If he's controlled opposition it would be good to see some evidence for that.
Hi xmasdale.
I agree with you, but take a look at for instance "Revolver" the film by Guy Ritchie and we are all of us, "controlled opposition" if we dont realise it and take the steps to keep it in check. And also sam gold is THE opposer.
Other than the above which affects us all, i have seen no evidence against Mr Stubblebine.
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject:
Groan! How much evidence does it take for some of us to finally realise a Boeing DID NOT HIT THE PENTAGON?
Stubblebine says he worked on photo-analysis, analysing spy photos of Soviet equiptment during the 'Cold War'. He says a Boeing won't fit in the (approx. 18') hole. We can all see that, and the undamaged windows where wings and engines would have hit.
Any fairly intelligent person can figure out that an aluminium (or aluminum, for our cousins across the pond) plane, travelling 400 or 4,000 mph, would not burst a neat round hole through 9' of steel-reinforced concrete. But a missile, specially designed for such tasks, can.
Callum's video of the reconstructed flight path from the 'black box' data provided by the US authorities shows the plane carrying it did fly near the Pentagon, but was too high and on a different flight path to that claimed by the US, and couldn't have hit the Pentagon.
13 witnesses in the Pilots for 9/11 Truth video (not just the two police sergeants) claim to have seen a plane, but once again on a different flight path to US claims, meaning it could not have been the 'plane' that knocked over the light poles (just like that! without so much as a hiccup in the perfect trajectory; Tommy Cooper would have been proud) and ground-hugged the rest of the way to the Pentagon (without damaging the lawn).
Maybe a Global Hawk or similar aircraft shot a missile, and perhaps even crashed into the Pentagon. It's lightness could perhaps have allowed it to crash into the heavily (and newly) armored Pentagon wing without breaking the windows, or damaging the walls. Again, perhaps that was what the few scraps of light 'wreckage' were. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:43 pm Post subject:
Aye. Top bloke. Awakened from the blindfold of patriotism _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
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