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| chek wrote: | Absolutely, item7.
And when you get cancer (God forbid) remember to stay away from your doctor and just 'think positive'. |
If I was ever to get any disease I would be straight round to the "white hot technology" of the local NHS. It is "positive thinking" that leads cranks to start believing we are all doomed unless we take some "positive" action, and they are the ones who know what that action is. Know what I mean?
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| item7 wrote: | | The oldest living man was once asked to what he attributed his longevity. He replied that he never drank alcohol, ate in moderation, worked extremely hard and was celibate. Can you guess the next question? |
Was it,
"Why do you think climate change deniers are all a bunch of w*nkers"? |
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| Life wrote: | Hi All.
As promised here are some links from a very high ranking medical operative in relation to cancer and other naughties |
So other doctors aren't high ranking?
Here's what another high ranking medical operative says of Dr Day.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/day.html
and here,
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/dayresponses. html
And as for Dr Bigelson. He will cure you for an enormous fee. Oh no. money again. That video about IUD's is just laughable by the way.
Here's more about him,
http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/bigelsen.html
and this file makes for very worrying reading including that Bigelson used a very toxic and defunct drug to treat a patient, at their great expense of course and who subsequently needed to seek medical advice elsewhere.
http://www.casewatch.org/board/med/bigelsen/censure.pdf
| Life wrote: | | These videos truly prove...'Knowledge is power', and a healthy existence is possible despite the chemical overload. Also shows the deception played against those who would be doctors, by the 'medical mafia'. |
Of course I show these to give a balance. As you say, knowledge is power. |
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| Quote: | Was it,
"Why do you think climate change deniers are all a bunch of w*nkers"? |
What has winking got to do with anything? 
Unless of course you meant..... but no - that would be "threatening" and I would feel soooo "abused".
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James tell me the secret of your ability to alter time...
If you expexct me to take you seriously by claiming you studied all those video's in 40 mins...I would suggest you keep off the wine...
James I will gladly take up your offer of meeting you, your wife, and her practice over a two month period if you all agree to take every drug you have prescribed between you, in front of my good self....
911 activist's...I do believe we have a plant or is that a weed....
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| Life wrote: | | 911 activist's...I do believe we have a plant or is that a weed.... |
911 activist's what? The apostrophe denotes possession.
Again, because I don't follow your view, I must be a 9/11 truth denier. Give me a break. You're as bad as item7 and his schoolboy antics. Or is that antic's? |
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Hi All.
Stephen Barrett, M.D., Biographical Sketch :
Stephen Barrett, M.D., a retired psychiatrist who resides near Chapel Hill, North Carolina, has achieved national renown as an author, editor, and consumer advocate. In addition to heading Quackwatch, he is vice-president of the National Council Against Health Fraud, a scientific advisor to the American Council on Science and Health, and a Fellow of the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP). In 1984, he received an FDA Commissioner's Special Citation Award for Public Service in fighting nutrition quackery. In 1986, he was awarded honorary membership in the American Dietetic Association. From 1987 through 1989, he taught health education at The Pennsylvania State University. He is listed in Marquis Who's Who in America and received the 2001 Distinguished Service to Health Education Award from the American Association for Health Education.
From this paragraph alone, I can see Mr 'Quakery' is big pharma personified.
An expert in medical communications, Dr. Barrett operates 23 Web sites; edits Consumer Health Digest (a weekly electronic newsletter); is medical editor of Prometheus Books; and has been a peer-review panelist for several top medical journals. He has written more than 2,000 articles and delivered more than 300 talks at colleges, universities, medical schools, and professional meetings. His 50 books include The Health Robbers: A Close Look at Quackery in America and seven editions of the college textbook Consumer Health: A Guide to Intelligent Decisions. One book he edited, Vitamins and Minerals: Help or Harm?, by Charles Marshall, Ph.D., won the American Medical Writers Association award for best book of 1983 for the general public and became a special publication of Consumer Reports Books. His other classics include Dubious Cancer Treatment, published by the Florida Division of the American Cancer Society; Health Schemes, Scams, and Frauds, published by Consumer Reports Books; The Vitamin Pushers: How the "Health Food" Industry Is Selling America a Bill of Goods, published by Prometheus Books; and Reader's Guide to "Alternative" Health Methods, published by the American Medical Association. His media appearances include Dateline, the Today Show, Good Morning America, ABC Prime Time, Donahue, CNN, National Public Radio, and more than 200 radio and television talk show interviews.
He also has lots of money, a sure sign he is not wasting his own on his many websites, I have five and they cost me a fortune...
A little like Michael Moore, A chap who has the brainwave to enlighten the American public about the 911 conspiracy, and low and behold he has $20 million in his lap. Any true grit researcher knows the opposite is the reality when you try and expose 911.
Strange though it may seem to a left brained robot, but Dr Quakery is so concerned about peoples health he fails to touch Codex Alimentarius, which comes into force 31 December 2009.
Just another medical mafia eugenics prostitute as far as I can see...
Produced by the; James is a muppet fan club PO BOX 666
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| Life wrote: | Hi All.
Stephen Barrett, M.D., Biographical Sketch :
Stephen Barrett, M.D., a retired psychiatrist who resides near Chapel Hill, North Carolina, has achieved national renown as an author, editor, and consumer advocate. In addition to heading Quackwatch, he is vice-president of the National Council Against Health Fraud, a scientific advisor to the American Council on Science and Health, and a Fellow of the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP). In 1984, he received an FDA Commissioner's Special Citation Award for Public Service in fighting nutrition quackery. In 1986, he was awarded honorary membership in the American Dietetic Association. From 1987 through 1989, he taught health education at The Pennsylvania State University. He is listed in Marquis Who's Who in America and received the 2001 Distinguished Service to Health Education Award from the American Association for Health Education.
From this paragraph alone, I can see Mr 'Quakery' is big pharma personified.
An expert in medical communications, Dr. Barrett operates 23 Web sites; edits Consumer Health Digest (a weekly electronic newsletter); is medical editor of Prometheus Books; and has been a peer-review panelist for several top medical journals. He has written more than 2,000 articles and delivered more than 300 talks at colleges, universities, medical schools, and professional meetings. His 50 books include The Health Robbers: A Close Look at Quackery in America and seven editions of the college textbook Consumer Health: A Guide to Intelligent Decisions. One book he edited, Vitamins and Minerals: Help or Harm?, by Charles Marshall, Ph.D., won the American Medical Writers Association award for best book of 1983 for the general public and became a special publication of Consumer Reports Books. His other classics include Dubious Cancer Treatment, published by the Florida Division of the American Cancer Society; Health Schemes, Scams, and Frauds, published by Consumer Reports Books; The Vitamin Pushers: How the "Health Food" Industry Is Selling America a Bill of Goods, published by Prometheus Books; and Reader's Guide to "Alternative" Health Methods, published by the American Medical Association. His media appearances include Dateline, the Today Show, Good Morning America, ABC Prime Time, Donahue, CNN, National Public Radio, and more than 200 radio and television talk show interviews.
He also has lots of money, a sure sign he is not wasting his own on his many websites, I have five and they cost me a fortune...
A little like Michael Moore, A chap who has the brainwave to enlighten the American public about the 911 conspiracy, and low and behold he has $20 million in his lap. Any true grit researcher knows the opposite is the reality when you try and expose 911.
Strange though it may seem to a left brained robot, but Dr Quakery is so concerned about peoples health he fails to touch Codex Alimentarius, which comes into force 31 December 2009.
Just another medical mafia eugenics prostitute as far as I can see...
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None of this has anything to do with 9/11.
And what will happen as a result of Codex on that date? Please spell it out because no one else has been able to so far. And please don't post from someone's blog, I'd like to see the original description of the Codex changes which will take place, after all Codex has been in place for over 45 years.
| Life wrote: | | Produced by the; James is a muppet fan club PO BOX 666 |
And what's this silly sentence all about. You're not throwing your toys out of the cot are you? All because for every post you have, I can counter it! |
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| Quote: | | because I don't follow your view, I must be a 9/11 truth denier. Give me a break. You're as bad as item7 and his schoolboy antics. |
You really must stop this James C - I feel so threatened by your nasty words!!!
As for being a 9/11 truther - "give me a break" is dead right. I was a lurker here for a long time before I posted anything and I know what your form is. Why the hell do you do this? Does it pay well or is it for perverse kicks.
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I rest my case people of the Jury...
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| item7 wrote: | | Quote: | | because I don't follow your view, I must be a 9/11 truth denier. Give me a break. You're as bad as item7 and his schoolboy antics. |
You really must stop this James C - I feel so threatened by your nasty words!!!
As for being a 9/11 truther - "give me a break" is dead right. I was a lurker here for a long time before I posted anything and I know what your form is. Why the hell do you do this? Does it pay well or is it for perverse kicks. |
Why do I spoil your schoolboy fantasies you mean?
This topics has nothing to do with 9/11. It's posted in the other controversies section or haven't you noticed this? If I wanted to criticize so-called 9/11 conspiracy theories, I wouldn't be posting here, I'd be in the critics section. Indeed, if you'd care to look in that section you'll see how I have contributed with several hundred posts over the past three years to counter the critics and their nonsense.
The problem is, you are lumping every other issue with 9/11. Sadly, this appears to be a common trait. But if I feel these 'other' issues deserve defending then I will. That doesn't make me a denier although I appreciate it is easier for you to view me that way. |
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| Life wrote: | Hi All.
I rest my case people of the Jury... |
What case? And what about Codex or can you not find the original documents? |
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Item 7...
It is waaaaay over James' head...
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| Life wrote: | Hi All.
I rest my case people of the Jury... |
Your case being quacks=good, professionals=bad.
I suspect it's due to it being far, far easier to assimilate a half-baked idea, particularly when it remains an abstract than to actually study and learn something to a certain objective standard that will have to be applied to real people in real distress and pain, and real life-threatening situations.
Like your implied attempted hatchet job on Michael Moore, who has had several successful TV series and at least 4 popular films which you neglect to mention (or presumably know about).
And not satified with medical quackery, you also branch out into historical quackery too. Nice. Stormfront would love it.
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=15593
It seems you're the proverbial rennaissance person of quackdom.
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I suspect it's due to it being far, far easier to assimilate a half-baked idea, particularly when it remains an abstract than to actually study and learn something to a certain objective standard that will have to be applied to real people in real distress and pain, and real life-threatening situations.
Yes in the main caused by the aforementioned doctors insistence on Vaccinations, it's the mantra don't you know....
Like I said, Doctors are indoctrinated to cure every ill every condition, with copious amounts of medication, all purchased from big pharma...And you feel the medical profession is peopled 100% with the most altruistic and spiritual souls?
Money does strange things to people...they will accept any old garbage if they are looking at the ££££ coming to their bank account when they fulfil the programming.
By definition of the fact all those who slate homeopathic, and Holistic medicine, are those prescribing big pharma meds... prove they have not reached a high spiritual frequency, or just exactly what are they afraid of with curing people, because in the videos thus provided, we are speaking with medical operatives who have proved their knowledge in the amount of people cured, including Dr Day.
So if the health of the patient is the prime objective of all your beautiful people in white coats, with practices, why do they bleat against another proven system?
So many of the medications the frankenstein's in white coats push, come from pharmaceutical companies with direct links to what remains today of the nazi chemical giant IG Farben, Beyer, BASF, Smith Glaxo, Phizer ad infinitum...
So in conclusion, I would put forward the fact that to happily prescribe medications of big pharma...Is to be an acute representation of mind control, boardering on the Nazi mind we hate so well.
Ignorance is bliss...but a pain in the arse for the victim..
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| Life wrote: | | Yes in the main caused by the aforementioned doctors insistence on Vaccinations, it's the mantra don't you know.... |
So according to your viewpoint, disease would have been largely unknown before Jenner's time?
Yes, I can see where you're coming from.
I hope re-entry wasn't too violent.
If you want to criticise big pharma, do it from a basis that has some validity such as it's business practices and preference for monopoly capitalism.
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| Life wrote: | | why do they bleat against another proven system |
But this is the crux; it isn't proven to cure the majority of illnesses.
Sure holistic medicine has its place but you can not deny classic prescriptive medicine on the ground that it has some Nazi style link. Both types of medicine play a part and at my wife's practice that is exactly what they offer, under one roof.
Do you know how often GP's get asked by their patients to prescribe against the their will. Patients now have lots and lots of rights under the Patient's Charter and if they feel they should be given a drug then they'll ask for it just because their aunty Mildred told them that it had cured her friend's uncle's cousin. My wife complains of it all the time. |
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Chek mi old China.... You have also fallen victim to the propoganda we call history and believe man was a sick sick wretch before frankenstein and his potions...
I would suggest submerging yourself in the study of the aboriginal cultures, but of course not from the perspective of the propogandist encyclopedia Brittanica and its many subsidury publishing houses... but from the people themselves.
The shaman has been curing the tribes for millenia from a spiritual and herbal aspect..
The only reason they do not live as long today is because the psychopaths, better known as the explorers, infected the indiginous tribes to syphiliss, pocs and all the gutter viral infections known to emanate from the Nefilim genetic codes....
Intelligence to the Borg.... is to believe...
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When I read that James C is married to an NHS doctor I know he really is a lost cause. Through experience - I'm an NHS registered nurse of many many years standing, yet for the last nineteen years have consciously avoided standard NHS allopathic treatment like the plague it is
Most NHS hospitals are little more than misery or death factories increasingly prey to newly created intrinsic bacterial or viral spread. Look at most hospitals and you will find a bewilderingly large array of mobile phone and Tetra masts positioned on them ear-marking them for what they are
Visit any patient in an NHS hospital ward, and as you exit the hospital, dousing your hands in an alcohol scrub, you will feel distinctly ill,and fuzzy and glad to be escaping
God knows what a nightmare it is for most people to be a 'patient' - you'd have to have a lot of patience. I'll add that I'm not this kind of nurse.
There are a lot of alternatives for the prevention and treatment of cancer, tho in some cases people might have to suffer a bit of their cutting and burning and poisoning orthodoxy
Even these bad effects can be treated alternatively
My original point is that Jade was a representative sad sack kind of individual who would be rightly targeted as an example to all the dumbed-down teen and twenty girls to get themselves sorted via the orthodoxy
She's lovely in retrospect, more than when properly alive, and I think that's indicative of the propaganda piece
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| paul wright wrote: | When I read that James C is married to an NHS doctor I know he really is a lost cause. Through experience - I'm an NHS registered nurse of many many years standing, yet for the last nineteen years have consciously avoided standard NHS allopathic treatment like the plague it is
Most NHS hospitals are little more than misery or death factories increasingly prey to newly created intrinsic bacterial or viral spread. Look at most hospitals and you will find a bewilderingly large array of mobile phone and Tetra masts positioned on them ear-marking them for what they are
Visit any patient in an NHS hospital ward, and as you exit the hospital, dousing your hands in an alcohol scrub, you will feel distinctly ill,and fuzzy and glad to be escaping. |
My wife would agree with you entirely which is why she is a GP and not a hospital doctor. Hospitals are horrible places, I think we'd all agree with that although this has everything to do with the fact that hospitals are run by accountants and pen pushing regulatory bodies such as the PCT. (At my wife's practice, they've hired an ex-military chief to manage things and he takes no sh*t from the PCT - it's amazing what CAN be achieved when the pen pushers and bean counters are made to see sense).
Paul, can I ask, if you work in the NHS, how are you able to bypass offering the standard allopathic treatment as you say? |
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Well.
it would seem censorship has removed Lifeinthemix from this forum...good luck to you all on your journey through Life....
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| Life wrote: | Well.
it would seem censorship has removed Lifeinthemix from this forum...good luck to you all on your journey through Life.... |
Life, it's still there on the previous page. |
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| TonyGosling wrote: | My view on Hospitals is the main attack on them is through agency work and workers.
Temporary workers are easy to sack if they question managers or answer them back and they have no sense of ownership of/responsiility for the patients and hospital in which they work.
Agency hospital workers of all grades may as well be adding e-numbers at a sausage factory as administering a blood transfusion.
The entire culture - built on since WWII - of public service is being destroyed by evil superfluous maonic-business-trained managers all over the country. Hospitals, Telecoms, Broadcasting, Post Office, Schools.... the list goes on and on. |
Exactly my take too.
Neo-liberal cost cutting and cheeseparing to deliver a low tax regime to the already-haves at, in the case of hospitals, the expense of other peoples health and lives. All overseen by a self-serving micro-management caste.
None of which is helped by a section of the citizenry who seem to prefer to believe in fairytales rather than actually do something to stop the decay in public service for the good of all.
If ever a pendulum was long overdue to swing back in the opposite direction...
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| Call me a CT but don't these masonic types want 5 billion of us sacrificed? The 'health service' is one of the best vectors for them! |
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My wife would agree with you entirely which is why she is a GP and not a hospital doctor. Hospitals are horrible places, I think we'd all agree with that although this has everything to do with the fact that hospitals are run by accountants and pen pushing regulatory bodies such as the PCT. (At my wife's practice, they've hired an ex-military chief to manage things and he takes no sh*t from the PCT - it's amazing what CAN be achieved when the pen pushers and bean counters are made to see sense).
Paul, can I ask, if you work in the NHS, how are you able to bypass offering the standard allopathic treatment as you say? |
I suspect, James, judging by the fact that you're a regular poster here, that your wife would probably be one of those genuine healer type of Doctors, generally GPs, of whom I've met a few, and generally hold in high regard, if you can disconnect my usual tongue-almost-in-cheek harangue from the real me.
I misphrased that statement about avoiding allopathy. I meant only for myself and some immediate others. I am of course complicit with big pharma, though in my specialist field,LD, the role of pharmaceuticals isn't so central. Still, there you are, one of lifes little conflictions
I've certainly seen people and nervous systems screwed up by the likes of antipsychotics and antidepressants, and come to that, all varieties of medication. In a field where the "patients" are unable to hold much in or to hide much, it's sometimes like watching a cartoon version of the ill effects of drugs, or a visual version of BNF lists of possible"side effects"
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Paul, in an effort to pull myself together after perhaps over-reacting in another thread, let me say I found your reply in this thread very reassuring on a personal level.
You're not such a bad bloke after all.
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| paul wright wrote: | | James C wrote: |
My wife would agree with you entirely which is why she is a GP and not a hospital doctor. Hospitals are horrible places, I think we'd all agree with that although this has everything to do with the fact that hospitals are run by accountants and pen pushing regulatory bodies such as the PCT. (At my wife's practice, they've hired an ex-military chief to manage things and he takes no sh*t from the PCT - it's amazing what CAN be achieved when the pen pushers and bean counters are made to see sense).
Paul, can I ask, if you work in the NHS, how are you able to bypass offering the standard allopathic treatment as you say? |
I suspect, James, judging by the fact that you're a regular poster here, that your wife would probably be one of those genuine healer type of Doctors, generally GPs, of whom I've met a few, and generally hold in high regard, if you can disconnect my usual tongue-almost-in-cheek harangue from the real me.
I misphrased that statement about avoiding allopathy. I meant only for myself and some immediate others. I am of course complicit with big pharma, though in my specialist field,LD, the role of pharmaceuticals isn't so central. Still, there you are, one of lifes little conflictions
I've certainly seen people and nervous systems screwed up by the likes of antipsychotics and antidepressants, and come to that, all varieties of medication. In a field where the "patients" are unable to hold much in or to hide much, it's sometimes like watching a cartoon version of the ill effects of drugs, or a visual version of BNF lists of possible"side effects" |
Thanks for the honest and informative reply and please understand that I reject the concept that unfettered drug prescription is a good thing when clearly it is not. All drugs have side affects and the same drug can have different affects for different people. This is the same for pharma drugs as well as homeopathic ones although clearly synthetic pharma drugs are less likely to be tolerated well. Diagnosis and cure should be doctor and nurse led and based on careful consideration of a patient's needs and reactions during recovery and cure. Sadly, this is the bit which appears to be missing these days and obviously it is easier and faster for doctors to prescribe drugs in order to meet the budget and time per patient targets set by the government bean counters.
My argument on this thread is to counter those who suggest that doctors (and nurses) are not trained in medical matters and are merely tools of a murderous pharmaceutical industry. Sure there have been isolated cases of contaminated drugs and rogue doctors administering them, particularly in Africa, but I don't suspect for a minute that the vast majority of medical personnel train for all those years just to implement genocide.
Incidentally, my mother trained to be a nurse in Bradford back in 1994. She left Bradford a few years later to continue nursing in Lincolnshire but decided to work in private care rather than watch patients and medical staff suffer under the NHS. |
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