Heathrow crash landing as PM flies to Beijing

[keithm]

There has been a lot of news in the last few weeks,

about boeing aircrafts onboard computers being vulnerable to terrorist hacking.

I just wonder if we will be told that iranians or al qaeda,hacked into the aircraft,and shut the engines down.

Either that or a flock of iranian (al qaeda) suicide geese were sucked into the engines.

[festival of snickers]

i bet a silly high school student did it

phony age of computers and imbeciles

[Mark Gobell]

911th day since 21.7.5 today

[festival of snickers]

were still alive

[TonyGosling]

Loss of engine power a mile out from Heathrow
Twas a long long flight from Bejing so she may have run out of fuel.
Were there particularly strong headwinds?

[fish5133]

Note the link to Gordon Brown who was due to fly out to China from the same airport that day?

The crashed plane had come from China, would it have possibly been the same one to take Mr Brown back! Or possibly the wrong China plane was targeted, or just coincidence.

[conspiracy analyst]

[Pikey]

Quite interesting to note how a plane crash site is normally managed.

No hiding of any evidence, employees carrying off parts behind sheets etc(Re: 911: Flight 77 and Pentagon site)

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[FlamingDeath]

[TonyGosling]

The plane probably came down because the stewardess wasn't allowed to wear her cross.

Seriously though... This incident will certainly have effected Gordon Brown psycologically since the plane was maybe even the one he was about to get on to fly outbound to China??

If I were him I would ask the RAF to get me about like the Royals do, much better security. It's very strange from a security point of view that he would use BA. Probably BA scumbags have managed to wangle it for PR purposes.

[Pikey]

[telecasterisation]

[suraci]

Tis a warning to Gordon to do as he is told, as when Blair's jet aborted take off at last second. What surprised me was the amount of damage done to the ground. I thought heavy commercial jets could crash and not mark a blade of grass.

[TonyGosling]

Some speculation:

see also:
Brown's Near-Miss In Jet Drama



yes

He was heading for Beijing on the flight of an undisclosed airline, that means almost certainly THE daily (except Saturday) British Airways flight.

BA0038 Beijing to Heathrow
BA0039 Heathrow to Beijing

So it's highly likely that he would have been on that same Boeing 777 as it headed back East. BA, like most other airlines, use one aircraft to ply pack and forth on the same scheduled route until maintenance checks kick in.


Heathrow was also the scene of threats to Harold Wilson as the army moved to surround the place in the 1970s

[Mark Gobell]

Only 24 hours later . . .

[fish5133]

I noticed the Captain quickly passed the praise (buck) to his co pilot whom he said was in control.
Could have been a big c*** up by the co pilot (although I suspect its on auto pilot) but they want to shield him.

[TonyGosling]

[Thermate911]

Any pilots here? If so, you'll fully appreciate how incredible it is that these people brought the plane down so successfully. Heaped Praise for the captain of this aircraft is definitely in order - he deserves a medal at least!

[acrobat74]

Looks like the only thing that saved these people was the crew's skill.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport/Story/0,,2243357,00.html

[Pete J]

[numeral]

Attempted hit on Gordon?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/01/18/gordon-brown-just-2 5ft-from-death-in-heathrow-crash-89520-20289514/

[paul wright]

[quote="numeral"]Attempted hit on Gordon?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/01/18/gordon-brown-just-2 5ft-from-death-in-heathrow-crash-89520-20289514/

[wepmob2000]

[karlos]

I dont share peoples opinions about Gordon the Moron.
He is as committed to the new world order and the same zionist cabal as blair was if not more committed. If he was to have an accident it would be really doing the whole world a big favour.

Flights crash all the time. There is not a week that goes by that a plane does not crash somewhere in the world. All this incident points to is how dangerous flying is and especially for the local residents of the airport who everyday are at risk of a plane crashing through their roof.

Gordon is the architect of the Labour government and is a thoroughly evil man, it is him who gives warnings to others, eg John Smith, Robin Cook, Dr Kelly, etc

[Mark Gobell]

Is it normal for the AAIB to release information as early as 24 hours after the event ?

Also, if there is a problem with 777's why aren't they all grounded ?

[suraci]

Triples 7's aren't grounded because Boeing is a big company and they don't want to piss them off. Disaster was averted because it wasn't bad weather, a strong crosswind and landing witout power would have been horrific.

I don't seriously suspect a conspiracy here, just * computers. We all know they don't work that well all the time, and fly by wire now means the pilots are merely sugggesting controls to a bank of chips, which then decide whether or not to bother firing up the engines. The Paris airshow crash a while bakc was immediatley blamed on pilot error, it then turned out he was demanding power increae but the onoard computer thought he was in landing mode.

This is the danger of fly by wire and relying on computers to fly a plane, which are not reliable. The Eurofighter turkey has the same issues, but politically it's too hard to admit it's nonsense and that they could have just gone out and bought any number of American or Russian aircraft to waste our billions on.

the whole hero thing annoys me though. the pilots were doing there job, and as they were on the plane as well you could argue they were as much intEveryone's a hero these days, from pilots saving their own skins to soldiers in Iraq fighting illegal wars for criminals.

[wepmob2000]

Can't quite see that, up until now at least, engine failure just prior to landing at 600ft has not been covered by the BA pilots training syllabus. So despite the fact the pilots might have understandably wanted to save their own lives, they still did a superb job of crash landing the aircraft and saving a lot of lives. A lot of lesser pilots would have plonked the jet on the A30............. They at least deserve some form of recognition.

Also I can't see your point about the Eurofighter, unless you're privy to info the rest of us are not..... Compared to most modern combat planes, its had a pretty smooth run in terms of software problems, at least most of them were ironed out long before they could compromise flight safety. Comparable Russian jets are junk compared to Typhoon (and who would want to deal with them anyway), and the only comparable U.S jet is so riddled with software bugs it sometimes won't even let the pilot out (and is horrendously expensive).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ieef0tLrv9c

I definitely agree though with your point about why the whole 777 fleet hasn't been grounded, as it should be pending the findings of the AAIB, how can the airlines be so confident that this fault doesn't affect all 777's?

[blackcat]

[keithm]

I suspect that somebody knows full well that all other 777s are fine.

I agree.