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conspiracy analyst Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: Robn Cook's strange death - 7/7 connections? |
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Jon Henley
Tuesday May 9, 2006
The Guardian
Alarming news from the authoritative Iranian daily Jam-e Jam. "For some time now, there has been an expectation that Jack Straw would fall victim to conduct similar to that used to deal with [his predecessor] Robin Cook," writes the paper's insightful international affairs analyst, Dr Mohammed Hasan Sheykholeslam. "Everyone knows Cook's star started to fade when he expressed stances that were independent of the British prime minister. This was met first with detachment; then with poses of displeasure; then open warnings; then dismissal; and, finally, with Cook's suspicious death." The words "snort" and "disbelief" may, of course, spring instantly to mind. Alternatively, you may care to recall that Robin Cook, an opponent of military intervention in Iraq, ended up leader of the Commons - a post now occupied, by extraordinary coincidence, by Mr Straw, an opponent of military intervention in Iran. Jack: watch your back. |
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: Jack watch your back. |
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Yeah
Don't go climbing any Scottish mountains, Jack. |
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andyb Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: |
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And Margeret Beckett won't rule out miltary intervention in Iran, while Straw said it was inconceivable!
I'd just send her into Iran, she's such a scary looking woman, who needs weapons? |
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James C Major Poster
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Wasn't it interesting that Cook died one month after the publication of this article in the Guardian which including comments that highlighted the real existence of al qaida.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523838,00.html
Quote: | Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. |
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Sinclair Moderate Poster
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I was always an admirer of Robin Cook’s intellectual rigour & his sharp articulate debating skills.
It is interesting to note that his comments on Al-Qaida - "the database", being originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen, was made the day after the London Explosions of 7th July 2005, (probably in response to Jack Straw’s pronouncement that the London attacks “ bear the hallmarks of Al-Qaida”).
Robin Cook was dead in less than a month from then.
Cook would have been a sharp thorn in BlairCo’s side, arguing (I don’t doubt for a minute) against the curtailment of civil liberties that has arisen from the (synthetic) terror that has been imposed upon us. How convenient (for BlairCo) that Robin Cook is now ‘out the way’, likewise Dr. David Kelly
Another quote worth repeating from Professor Juan Cole:
"Not content with creating a vast terrorist network to harass the Soviets, Reagan then pressured the late King Fahd of Saudi Arabia to match US contributions...Fahd not only put Saudi government money into the Afghan Mujahideen networks, which trained them in bomb making and guerrilla tactics, but he also instructed the Minister of Intelligence, Turki al-Faisal, to try to raise money from private sources....Turki al-Faisal checked around and discovered that a young member of the fabulously wealthy Bin Laden construction dynasty, Usama, was committed to Islamic causes. Turki thus gave Usama the task of raising money from Gulf millionaires for the Afghan struggle. This whole effort was undertaken, remember, on Reagan Administration instructions." |
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markburdge Minor Poster
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't John Smith die whilst walking in Scotland as well?
Knowing what a 'long game' these people play to get the right people in power, perhaps this is more than a coincidence as well? |
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Ally Moderate Poster
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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markburdge wrote: | Didn't John Smith die whilst walking in Scotland as well?
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No, he had a heart attack
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Jayhawk Moderate Poster
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Sinclair Moderate Poster
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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ally,
You’re mistaken, John Smith was another politician who died of a heart attack.
From here, the 55-year-old leader of the opposition suffered his first attack at his central London flat. He had a second heart attack in the ambulance on the way to hospital and was pronounced dead at 0915 BST on 12th May 1994. So we are told..........
There is an interesting biography on John Smith here.
Interestingly, upon browsing the subject of Smith/Blair etc., it is apparent that Tony Blair attended a Bilderberg meeting, in Greece, 1993 BEFORE becoming party leader (after John Smith' death) in July 1994.
I have read that Blair was groomed for an eventual British Prime Minister - make of it what you will..... |
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conspiracy analyst Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:27 am Post subject: In response... |
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Bliars government refusal of a Public Inquiry implies it doesn't want to be open to scrutiny and to create even more public distaste as after the 9/11 Commission in the USA.
Cook as far as I know exposed a military purchase scandal under Thatcher which meant it fell through leading to around $800 million of hardware not being bought from US suppliers. They had it in for him for a long tiime.
Being alive in the post-London bombings would have created too many problems. Hence his mysterious death is an issue for investigation. |
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Shaphan New Poster
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:47 am Post subject: Robin Cook's death |
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Coincidentally(?), I've been thinking and writing about Robin Cook's demise on my blog recently. Please see the latest entry, 'Lingering Questions about Robin Cook's Death': http://shaphan.typepad.com/blog/2006/05/questions_about.html |
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Ally Moderate Poster
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Sinclair Moderate Poster
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Yep, Good Blog & links.
Welcome to the Forum!
~Sinclair~ |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Epitaph tribute to anti-war Cook
Robin Cook was a vocal critic of the decision to go to war
Robin Cook's epitaph pays tribute to his opposition to the Iraq war.
Mr Cook, a vocal critic of the decision to topple Saddam Hussein, died of a heart attack, aged 59, in August 2005.
"I may not have succeeded in halting the war, but I did secure the right of Parliament to decide on war,"
reads the headstone of the late Livingston MP.
From todays BBC article here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6244003.stm
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If you need a political "tonic" to pick up your understandably failing political faith and remind you of what our Parliament should be about then I suggest watching this video of Robin Cook's resignation speech on the very day that Bush, Blair and Jose Maria Aznar had set as the deadline for diplomacy to work before Saddam and the Iraqi people were subjected to shock and awe 6 days later.
Robin Cook resigned from the government because he profoundly disagreed with the rush to war, on the eve of the commons vote which he, as Leader of the House was primarily responsible for securing.
During his speech he reminded the world of such inconvenient facts like the Chief Weapons Inspector, Hans Blik had assured the UN that the remainder of Saddams weapons issues would be resolved within a matter of months and also that the world has waited nearly 30 years for Israel to comply with UNSCR 242 and that the US and UK sold Hussein anthrax and were in not for the issue of hanging chads in Florida 2000 then the UK may well not be needing to decide to commit it's military to an invasion if Iraq.
Robin Cook received a standing ovation for his speech with interesting exceptions on Labour's front bench.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6244003.stm
You don't have to agree with much of Robin Cook, Labour old or new to respect a Parliamentarian who respects and fights to uphold the notion that at least the idea of democracy is something that cannot be compromised.
A fitting epitaph to the rarest of political animals. _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan.
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TonyGosling Editor
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have any information on Robin Cook's erstwhile diary secretary and second wife Gaynor ?
While we're on the matter, John Reid's current spouse also ? _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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Bushwacker Relentless Limpet Shill
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Mark Gobell wrote: | Does anyone have any information on Robin Cook's erstwhile diary secretary and second wife Gaynor ?
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Only that she was seen packing for the walk, and taking with her a syringe and a small vial labelled "Secret Heart Stopping Drug" _________________ ".......some partial collapse [of WTC7] would not have been suspicious......." - chek |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Did Robin Cook have a mobile phone on him during his walk ? _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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numeral Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Mark Gobell wrote: | Does anyone have any information on Robin Cook's erstwhile diary secretary and second wife Gaynor ?
While we're on the matter, John Reid's current spouse also ? |
Quote: | http://shaphan.typepad.com/blog/blunkett/index.html
If you are a current Labour Party Cabinet minister, or a former Cabinet minister, don't come out too strongly in favour of a smooth transfer of power to Gordon Brown. If you choose to ignore this advice, then please take these precautions, even though they may not save you.
Don't go hill-walking.
Don't boast about your friendship with Gordon. Beware of strangers offering you directorships. Avoid Annabel's nightclub - some believe it's a spooks' playground.
Don't have an extramarital affair with anyone who's likely to be an MI5 agent.
Seriously...
Robin Cook was all set for a high-level political comeback under Gordon Brown, perhaps even as deputy leader. He died, suddenly and unexpectedly, on August 6th, 2005, while hill-walking with his second wife. (It may be pertinent to point out that Gaynor Regan had been the Tracey Temple of her day, except the trajectory of that story differed much from l'affaire Prescott.)
A month later, David Blunkett was letting it be known, through his biographer Stephen Pollard, that he and Gordon Brown had patched up their differences and that he, Blunkett, could expect a senior position in the coming Brown administration [Sunday Times, Sept. 4th, 2005]. Then, as this Guardian timeline helpfully shows, all hell broke loose around Blunkett, for two months, until he had to resign from Cabinet, for the second time, on November 2nd.
And now John Prescott. If there was one more duty in public life that Prescott had hoped, and was expected, to achieve it was to help smooth the handover of power from Blair to Brown. But now he's finished politically.
So, within the space of nine months, Gordon Brown has lost his three heavyweight supporters, the three who maybe mattered most in his campaign to become PM. It's quite spooky - it's almost as if there were a curse on anyone who could make a Brown premiership a reality.
As mentioned below, John Prescott's sex-life, and exposure to state secrets, made him a gaping security risk. (There are new revelations today of the DPM as a "serial groper", and more will surely follow.) MI5 would have been failing in its responsibilities if it hadn't ensured that his weakness wasn't being exploited by a foreign power. As it happens, Tracey Temple had previously worked for Mo Mowlam, the former Northern Ireland Secretary. It would also have made sense for the Security Service to have had eyes and ears within Mowlam's office, given Mo's previous contacts with Sinn Fein/PIRA. Mowlam left parliament in May 2001. Tracey Temple then, after a gap, transferred to John Prescott's office and the affair began at the end of '02, only to be ended by the most unlikely of circumstances. Now, I'm not alleging that Temple is an MI5 agent - I am asserting that she should have been.
And if, IF, she were an MI5 asset, and given what happened to David Blunkett, and perhaps even to Robin Cook, then the curse against a Gordon Brown premiership looks less like a curse and more like a plot to prevent him becoming prime minister. So, if you are a senior Labour politician, and you want a political future, don't act as if a Brown premiership is inevitable. And remember what the Queen told the butler: "There are powers at work in this country about which we have no knowledge". |
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troofseek3r New Poster
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:31 am Post subject: Robin Cook |
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I wish to ask the question, I would like to know what are peoples thoughts on the death of Robin Cook? I have studied 911 since 2004 and I start to recognise certain behaviour once you understand policy.
Of course one can only speculate (there is an ice gun which would do the trick...)but does anyone agree with me that he was "bumped off" for opposing the Iraq war? Has anyone posted anything about this before? One voice inside the government silenced forever...
His resignation speech could even be compared to JFK's speech on Secret Societies and Freedom of the Press... |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Similar thread _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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fistula New Poster
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone help -- didn't Gordon Brown spend some time at a US think tank before his time in parliament? I just can't get through the noise with Google... |
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