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scienceplease 2
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 Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: Who believes the European Election Results? |
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French socalists in disarray (yet some French professionals were telling me recently that Sarkozy is so unpopular that he can't even make a public speech in Paris without layers of armed guards)
Italy's right doing well despite Silvio Berlusconi's sex scandals (getting over 40%(!) of the vote)
Poland's right wing EPP party increased their share by 30%!
And I guess you know about the UK... 
This seems rather counter-intuitive to me! |
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fish5133
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Did wonder when and how the UK count was gonna happen. Apparently the ballot boxes are securely stored in each area and counted in that area. Result not released till 9pm today after polling ceased. So not sure where the results go from there. Cant see how any rigging could take place
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scienceplease 2
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I am pretty happy about the UK voting mechanism... not so sure about the manipulation of poltical events in the UK.
I just don't know how the other countries mange their votes... I hope none use postal or eVoting... |
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fish5133
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| Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Watching Live election results on BBC website and the pundit immediately trying to search the net for dirt to throw at the elected BNP guy.
Bit of a recount anomaly in ireland going ahead.
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fish5133
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:15 am Post subject: BNP Leader Egged |
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BNP Leader egged outside Parliament. We know that the Lib Lab Cons colluded together to try and split the voting in various constituencies in order to keep out BNP and this recent egging looks rather suspicious. Not one yellow coated cop to be seen anywhere especially when the demonstrators come along.
Very surprised that given all the vitriole by the BBC and MSM towards BNP that PC Plod was not on hand or even in sight. Very suspicious.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090609/video/vuk-bnp-leader-nick-griffin- is-pelted-wi-49bfa63.html
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The BNP is a racist party which pretends not to be.
Very good people to throw eggs at.
Credulous non racists are always welcome ... to act as a veneer.
This is the MI6 and fellow travellers way of doing things.
Similar to the Ergenekon lot.
Designed to draw in true patriots and dirty them up.
| Quote: | ......The İstek Foundation, headed by Bedrettin Dalan, a former Istanbul mayor and the chairman of Yeditepe University’s board of trustees, argued that the land neighbored a military zone and the foundation was banned from doing anything there. "All access to the land is allowed under military supervision and it is currently being used as a training field for the Turkish Navy," the foundation said after the weapons cache was found. There is an arrest warrant for Dalan, currently in the United States for medical treatment, as part of the controversial Ergenekon investigation. The police arrested six people, two retired and four active military officers, as part of the investigation into the weapons cache......
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/11830976.asp?gid=244 |
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FYI the egg throwing demo was organised by "unite against fascism" a 'new' group which claims support from a significant number of MPs but appears to be yet another SWP front. I say this since UAF put forward Martin Smith as a spokesperson yesterday and he is (or was as recently as Dec 2008) SWP National Secretary.
Whilst I welcome any effective opposition to fascists and the BNP are undoubtedly fascist IMO, I trust the SWP as much as the BNP. Controlled opposition and useful idiots the lot of them. |
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BBC Political pundit said the BNP are starting to wear suits to appear respectable  Certainly helps when getting your expenses passed.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:33 am Post subject: |
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UKIP 'outrage' on folded ballots
| Quote: | UKIP says hundreds of people could not find the party's box as it was hidden under a small fold at the bottom of the list of European election candidates.
The party says it may challenge the result and says minister Michael Wills did not do enough to sort it out.
The government says returning officers run elections and an alert had been put out once the problem emerged.
In a letter to Mr Wills, UKIP leader Nigel Farage said: "We are outraged that today's European election have not been contested on a free and fair basis.
"We have been swamped with upset voters who failed to find us on the ballot paper. In many cases they have voted for other parties such as NO2EU and even the BNP." |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8084086.stm
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I have just spoken to Clive Page in the UKIP press office who said:
1) The ballots in question are machine folded and distributed individually, rather than ripped off a book and folded in front of the voter as in most elections. The fold isn't easily visible, or easily unfolded, and hides up to the bottom four parties from the ballot. There is no question of it being stupidity on the part of voters.
2) These were printed and folded by a company in Northern Ireland and distributed to 30 constituencies (list not yet available).
3) UKIP has received over 2,500 phone calls from concerned voters unable to find UKIP on the ballot (and thus probably many times more than that have been unable to vote for UKIP and other parties).
4) Most people unable to find UKIP have simply voted for another party, such as No2EU because it sounds eurosceptic, or for the Tories as a compromise.
5) This was flagged with the Electoral Commission at 9am, but they took no action until 1pm and many polling stations still haven't been informed of the problem. |
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/eu-elections-2009/62711-update-folded- ballot-paper-problems.html |
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Why do you keep comparing what is happening now with Nazi Germany, when in fact the signs are everywhere that the NWO is communist?
| Quote: | Boris Bazhanov's Memoirs of Stalin's Former Secretary (published in 1992 and only available in Russian, so far as I know).
The passage in question, which appears near the end of chapter five, reads (loosely translated) as follows:
"You know, comrades," says Stalin, "that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this —- who will count the votes, and how." |
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/dubiousquotes/a/stalin_quote.htm
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rodin
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| TonyGosling wrote: | Stalin ran a state dictatorship
Hitler a corporate dictatorship
Both crushed all political opposition
What we have now, particularly seeing the strangling of Parliament, is much closer to the latter IMO.
| rodin wrote: | | the signs are everywhere that the NWO is communist |
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Check out the current politburo.
count the Facists (or so called ex-Fascists)
count the Marxists (or so called ex-Marxists)
That for me tells the story
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