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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: Gestapo Watch - ACPO demands internment powers Reply with quote

Gestapo Watch - ACPO demands internment powers

But if their mates commit high crimes including cold blooded murder they are promoted!
ACPO (The Association of Chief Police Officers) is, according to author Stephen Knight, a wholly masonic association and accountable to no-one. How clever they think they are! But they are vulnerable to prosecution for the criminal offences of conspiracy and malfeasance.
This is what Order of the Garter knight PM Ted Heath did in Northern Ireland. Stand by for arbitrary arrest, an even more divided society and civil war people if they get away with this....!

Lock terror suspects up indefinitely say ACPO
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2126704,00.html
· Critics' anger over internment plans
· PM briefed on 'extraordinary measure'

Mark Townsend and Jamie Doward
Sunday July 15, 2007
The Observer

One of Britain's most senior police officers has demanded a return to a form of internment, with the power to lock up terror suspects indefinitely without charge.

The proposal, put forward by the head of the Association of Police Chief Officers (Acpo) and supported by Scotland Yard, is highly controversial. An earlier plan to extend the amount of time suspects can be held without charge to 90 days led to Tony Blair's first Commons defeat as Prime Minister. Eventually, the government was forced to compromise on 28 days, a period which Gordon Brown has already said he wants to extend..................

Does all this sound familiar........?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/9/newsid_40710 00/4071849.stm
The decision to bring back the internment law for the first time in 10 years, under the Civil Authorities (Special Powers) Act, was made last week following consultation with British prime minister, Ted Heath, but an announcement was delayed to enable the Army to make the arrests.
In a statement made at 1115 BST today, Mr Faulkner said Northern Ireland was "quite simply at war with the terrorist."
He said: "The terrorists' campaign continues at an unacceptable level and I have had to conclude that the ordinary law cannot deal comprehensively or quickly enough with such ruthless violence.
"I have therefore decided... to exercise where necessary the powers of detention and internment vested in me as Minister of Home Affairs."

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herr Jones' appointment as ACPO supremo was announced on 7.9.5, in this press release:

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Mr Jones said:

“I am very pleased to have been elected as the next ACPO President. As President I intend to positively develop national policing policy in ways which actively build on the local policing style which we have created. I also intend to champion modernisation and much needed change in ways which acknowledge our traditions, values and ethos.”


And then lock you all up without charge or trial, for as long as we damn well choose.

Hurrah !

Gruppenfuhrer Jones, ACPO President since April fools day 2006 says here:

http://www.acpo.police.uk/pressrelease.asp?PR_GUID={5B32838C-FA66-4C0A -AFA5-3636AF5F310D}

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Ref:169/07 July 16, 2007
ACPO STATEMENT ON TERRORIST DETENTION

Ken Jones, ACPO President said:

"The ACPO position remains unchanged. The issue is not one about the number of days, but of having sufficient time to secure evidence in the most serious of cases. Investigators are facing an unprecedented international dimension in terrorism cases and the necessary enquiries to ensure public safety have a time dimension to them that is not catered for within the existing timescales that have been designated.

“It is unhelpful that the discussion continues to focus on a number of days for detention. The key point is that the police require an ability to undertake a professional and thorough investigation that is proportionate to the threat posed by international terrorism. It must also be noted that one of the suggestions we are making is that any time period granted will be managed and scrutinised by senior members of the judiciary at regular intervals. There is no benefit to the police in keeping any individual in custody for a single day longer than is required to investigate criminal, or terrorist activity, but any period of proportionate, pre-charge detention must be sufficient to exhaust all enquiries in what are, increasingly complex investigations."

ENDS



Personally Kenny baby, my advice to you is not to engage in the debate about the number of days an innocent citizen can be held without trial, that is, as you say "unhelpful".

Why not just get your cops out and start shooting us all en masse eh ?

Just like your lot did with Jean Charles de Menezes and the other innocent people murdered in cold blood by the police "service".

No silly debate about 28 days or 90 days then was there.

Just clean clinical police execution of innocent human beings.

Absolute state sponsored and publicly funded terror. Bold and brilliant !

Al Qaeda want to take away our freedoms, but the state and the police want to take them first.

Al Qaeda in the police force ?

With their spiritual leader, the Mad Mullah of ACPO, evidently.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Kelly

Robin Cook

Jean C de Menezes

Dan Wallace

possibly Chris Bollyn and others never recorded

What do they all have in common?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for flagging this up Mark. Not even the most dunderheaded detective would buy this claptrap about how finding evidence has become so complex and poor cops have to fly all over the world because of the devious (but fictional) Al Quaeda.
Reminds me of the kind of flannel uncovered by Duncan Campbell's famous interview of ACPO chief James Anderton in the 1980s.

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Ref:169/07 July 16, 2007
ACPO STATEMENT ON TERRORIST DETENTION

Ken Jones, ACPO President said:

"The ACPO position remains unchanged. The issue is not one about the number of days, but of having sufficient time to secure evidence in the most serious of cases. Investigators are facing an unprecedented international dimension in terrorism cases and the necessary enquiries to ensure public safety have a time dimension to them that is not catered for within the existing timescales that have been designated.

“It is unhelpful that the discussion continues to focus on a number of days for detention. The key point is that the police require an ability to undertake a professional and thorough investigation that is proportionate to the threat posed by international terrorism. It must also be noted that one of the suggestions we are making is that any time period granted will be managed and scrutinised by senior members of the judiciary at regular intervals. There is no benefit to the police in keeping any individual in custody for a single day longer than is required to investigate criminal, or terrorist activity, but any period of proportionate, pre-charge detention must be sufficient to exhaust all enquiries in what are, increasingly complex investigations."

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed.

Mind you, I am now in favour of unlimited detention of political suspects who may have sold peerages for cash and those in the CPS who may have been under political influence not to prosecute.

The growing, international threat of cash for honours terrorism means that we have to have the powers of unlimited detention and, in some cases, murderous torture, so that the suspect may cough to our demands.

The threat of peerages for cash is real and growing and we should all be vigilant and report any Lord of the Realm that we suspect may have been involved in international peerage terrorism.

The current international peerage sell off threat level has now been lowered to Baron.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jul 17, 2009 - ACPO succumbs to Freedom of Information

We might chalk this up as a bit of a victory. Despite being a private company, ACPO has volunteered to make itself subject to the Freedom of Information Act "in view of the very high level of public interest in the development of the police service". The move was announced on Thursday by the Ministry of Justice.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/crime/2009/07/acpo-succumbs-to-freedom- of-information.html

It's only a few months ago that we ran into obstacles with ACPO's referral unit which advised all police forces and authorities to park a Times request for information about the secretive Chief Officers' Bonus Scheme with FoI units which had been blocking or refusing our requests for months.

Sir Ken Jones, then ACPO president, was furious at his team's action - so maybe this is the result?

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