Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: Ideas for getting the truth out to the sheeple
Hi all been looking through all the great posts on the forum for hours now, great research by many on here so many thanks. My question is how best to get the message out to all those millions who have their eyes closed tightly to what is going on around us?
I have started a website to try and dig into the truth, so as to hopefully make it as simple as possible for the sheeple to understand. I would be grateful for any suggestions or comments as to how we can make this as simple as possible for the dumned down to understand......
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject:
Personally, I have begun to dislike the word "sheeple" because it is derogatory and that is hardly a way of winning "hearts and minds". We are trying to win over adults, not ten year old children. I would suggest changing the language.
People are angry about the treatment of soldiers, anti-terror laws, snooping, ID cards and the rest but they haven't yet thought about it at a high enough level and to connect it all together (eg David Icke is a nutcase who spouts theories of world domination).
I appreciate this may not be a very constructive response. _________________ Currently working on a new website
Thanks scubadiver I should say all comments positive or negative are appreciated, as for the sheeple comment I think it to be valid in as much as this is how people behave in a flock like way. Of course I would never use this term as a derogatory saying to someone who is unable to grasp the position we find the world in at this present time. I am not and would never be derisory to anybody, good, bad or indifferent, that will never get us anywhere......many thanks for your input _________________ www.not-in-my-name.org
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:14 am Post subject:
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The only way we can change what is happening is to come together and make changes for the better.
Well done with the website notinmyname(that just about sums up precisely how I feel about my government) and imo you are spot in with the above statement.
Watched "V for vendatta" again on BBC3 the other night which reminded me again of the fact that without unity the truth campaign is FCUKed.
What really gets to me is the fact that the ptb are using our monies (taxes:- direct and indirect) to create the sickening evil reality that truthseekers who join up the dots can see.
Steve44 wrote:
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Just remember.... you are a sheep aswell!
I dont consider any truth activist who comes out of their comfort zones to actually challenge the status quo to be a sheepl.
-telling the truth has certainly become a revolutionary act.
How can a minority control billions? quite simply they are well organised and resourced by us! _________________ Pikey
Sorry Pikey, what i meant to say was that we are all sheep in the eyes of the NWO
I see your point steve44, but we are the black sheep of the family at least. We choose not to follow the herd mentality instead question everything we can to make it as difficult for the ptb as possible.
If we all share ideas and stick together we can and will be a force to be reckoned with........ _________________ www.not-in-my-name.org
If we all share ideas and stick together we can and will be a force to be reckoned with........
Agreed but the dark forces puppets (trolls,shills,trojans and infiltrators) amongst us seem to be preventing that at the moment.
Analyse some of the posters on this site and you'll see where I'm coming from.
Totally agree with you there and have experienced the same happening on many different forums and sites. There are also many disinformation sites out there too, most recent one I found was called godlikeproductions. As soon as I realised what the forum was I posted a subject simply saying "I just love disinformation sites like this" a day later my account was deleted! But hey you will get these things everywhere, whether the posters are just ill informed and ignorant or something worse who knows, but the truth is the truth as we know it and one day will have to come out with enough people behind it. _________________ www.not-in-my-name.org
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject:
I don't think it is a herd mentality as such. My own personal thought is that people only think of their own self-preservation for whatever reason (and I am brainstorming a few ideas). Because everyone does it, they all go through the same mental process.
When it comes to handing out leaflets, if I see a person heading my way and I want to give them a leaflet what is going through their head that makes them decide whether to take that leaflet or not?
Does having an "Investigate 9/11" t-shirt help or is it better to be neutral? Is it better to put leaflets through residential doors, hand them out in public or put them on car windows?
my tuppence! _________________ Currently working on a new website
Joined: 13 May 2009 Posts: 40 Location: North Devon, UK
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject:
I do my bit in my own way, which mainly involves talking to anyone who will listen and copying DVDs and giving them to friends, family. What i have found is people are just not interested. I've given quite a few DVDs out to friends months ago and they've still not bothered to watch them... i dispair! but i still bang on about it. People are just wrapped up in their immediate lives and won't think outside of what they watch on TV and read in their dailys... it pains me to say that. I'd be interested to know what other peoples experiences are of trying to pass information on
I do my bit in my own way, which mainly involves talking to anyone who will listen and copying DVDs and giving them to friends, family. What i have found is people are just not interested. I've given quite a few DVDs out to friends months ago and they've still not bothered to watch them... i dispair! but i still bang on about it. People are just wrapped up in their immediate lives and won't think outside of what they watch on TV and read in their dailys... it pains me to say that. I'd be interested to know what other peoples experiences are of trying to pass information on
Sounds like a mirror image of my life steve, why do people refuse to see the obvious? If my wife is anything to go by and I quote her "its just too difficult to think about" The main problem seems to be that peoples minds are controlled and manipulated from cradle to grave, to break through this controlled state can be very hard if not sometimes impossible. If you look at the laws now and how you can get into "trouble" for such things as speaking your mind in a public place you can understand why these mind controlled people are so afraid to have an opinion. Let us just hope there is an answer to break the control before we are all placed under the thumb.... _________________ www.not-in-my-name.org
Ideas I've had lately - leaflet/DVD drops - been to a few gatherings over the Summer with my daughter where like-minded people congregate and I think they would be open to finding out more, can't hurt. Paying for a 'stall' at one of these gatherings to hand out the same, take email addresses, that kind of thing. I use Facebook every day (I know ! Oh dear ... ) and drop the odd comment and YouTube link in there (have to be careful with FB, however, it is very carefully monitored). It's exasperating at times ! I'm female and (sweeping generalisation alert) my girlfriends will sit and chat about the soaps and the general nonsense on TV and in magazines for hours and yet laugh at me if I so much as raise this subject to them I'm all for a bit of light relief but, still ...
I'm another one who isn't a fan of the word 'sheeple' - it's usage smacks of arrogance, to me *sorry* Yes, there's the 'flock mentality' angle but sheep are hardly known for their brainpower either, are they ? I must admit that there are days when I wish that I was still blissfully ignorant ... _________________ One size education does not fit all
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:55 am Post subject:
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I must admit that there are days when I wish that I was still blissfully ignorant ...
Know where your coming from Wildheart!
Trouble is when you've taken that red pill theres no turning back as far as I'm concerned.
I'll always be a 911 truther in this dimension till I pass on to another one.
As individual truthseekers the odds of success are stacked against us in the matrix.
I just look forward to the day when we will all come together in peaceful lawful rebellion as one, then the horrible 911 truth will come out in the public domain!
As individuals we must keep sowing those seeds of 911 truth in the UK comrades.
All it takes for evil to overcome good is for good men and women to do nothing! _________________ Pikey
I must admit that there are days when I wish that I was still blissfully ignorant ...
Know where your coming from Wildheart!
Trouble is when you've taken that red pill theres no turning back as far as I'm concerned.
I'll always be a 911 truther in this dimension till I pass on to another one.
As individual truthseekers the odds of success are stacked against us in the matrix.
I just look forward to the day when we will all come together in peaceful lawful rebellion as one, then the horrible 911 truth will come out in the public domain!
As individuals we must keep sowing those seeds of 911 truth in the UK comrades.
All it takes for evil to overcome good is for good men and women to do nothing!
Well put Pikey.........lets just pray that the day it all comes out will happen and people will finally open their eyes to the truth. _________________ www.not-in-my-name.org
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject:
Oh contrare Wildheart... only the other night.. a sheep on Mastermind, he got 100% on specialist subject.. grazing, he didn't do very well on general knowledge though... sorry folks
Well done notinmyname...good website, great Chaplin video and most of all making it happen by spreading the word. The most some people do is post a few comments on the website. Not getting at anybody in particular here, but there will never been any change by being inactive....recently myself included, but planning to set-up a We Are Change East Yorkshire group.
As for the "sheeple" argument I believe it is a great word (first seen in print 1950, in the form, "We, the Sheeple", in the Emory University Quarterly, v.6-7 1950-1951 and commonly used by 1980s shortwave radio host Milton William Cooper) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple to describe how we tend to be in contemporary society. If anyone is offended by being called one of the "sheeple" then you're/they are not going to survive anything when the NWO really gets going. Anyway, in the land of the "sheeple" it is still a novelty adjective or can it be called a noun even though it's not recognised in the OED! Tony you'll know this one much better than me.
So once again...WELL DONE NOTINMYNAME! _________________ "The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him[her] wrong."
- - Harry Segall
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." Lenin 1917
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:42 am Post subject:
scubadiver wrote:
Personally, I have begun to dislike the word "sheeple" because it is derogatory and that is hardly a way of winning "hearts and minds". We are trying to win over adults, not ten year old children. I would suggest changing the language.
People are angry about the treatment of soldiers, anti-terror laws, snooping, ID cards and the rest but they haven't yet thought about it at a high enough level and to connect it all together (eg David Icke is a nutcase who spouts theories of world domination).
I appreciate this may not be a very constructive response.
I agree that we should avoid the word "sheeple"; it is derogatory. I think it was invented by David Icke, or perhaps he got it from somewhere else.
I agree with your observations about it, Scuba. But not only is it offensive to humans, it is also offensive to sheep. These wooly animals, unlike humans, are peaceful vegetarians who do no harm to anyone else. They are generous to the human species giving us their wool and sometimes their milk, despite the fact that we usually end up killing and eating them. That's human gratitude for you.
I think it's unwise to characterise David Icke as a nutcase. A large number of people in this movement find much inspiration in what he says and does. Personally I don't, and since I'm working with Reinvestigate 9/11 lobbying MPs and peers, I think it wise to distance myself from such a controversial figure. You can't both openly follow DI and get taken seriously by the mainstream. That's tactics.
Nevertheless there are many wonderful people in this movement who do take DI seriously.
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:00 am Post subject:
Pikey wrote:
Trouble is when you've taken that red pill theres no turning back as far as I'm concerned.
An old Quaker once said to me:
"Once your horizons have been broadened, they can never again be narrowed."
I'm grateful to him for that remark and I think its meaning is the same thing as yours here, Pikey, only in a way comprehensible to those who haven't seen or haven't understood the movie, The Matrix.
BTW don't forget to phone me, Pikey or e-mail me your number.
Last edited by xmasdale on Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:16 am; edited 1 time in total
I agree that we should avoid the word "sheeple"; it is derogatory. I think it was invented by David Icke, or perhaps he got it from somewhere else.
You know where it originates from...I mentioned this in my last post.
_________________ "The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him[her] wrong."
- - Harry Segall
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." Lenin 1917
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:51 am Post subject:
Marigold wrote:
As for the "sheeple" argument I believe it is a great word (first seen in print 1950, in the form, "We, the Sheeple", in the Emory University Quarterly, v.6-7 1950-1951 and commonly used by 1980s shortwave radio host Milton William Cooper) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple to describe how we tend to be in contemporary society. If anyone is offended by being called one of the "sheeple" then you're/they are not going to survive anything when the NWO really gets going. Anyway, in the land of the "sheeple" it is still a novelty adjective or can it be called a noun even though it's not recognised in the OED! Tony you'll know this one much better than me.
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