Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: Mi5 Caught Recruiting "Al-Qaeda" Operatives
Our "security" services have been found to be recruiting people whom they would, under different circumstances, call "terrorists". Read between the lines and it's obvious what they're up to - another Haroon Aswat anyone?
Quote:
Call for probe into MI5 recruitment
August 1st, 2009, Press Association
A senior Tory MP has called for an investigation into whether MI5 mistakenly recruited al Qaida sympathisers.
Patrick Mercer, chairman of the counter-terrorism sub-committee, told the Telegraph six Muslim recruits were thrown out of the service because of serious concerns about their pasts.
The MP said he was writing to Home Secretary Alan Johnson to call for an investigation into the matter.
Two of the six allegedly attended al Qaida training camps in Pakistan while the others had unexplained gaps of up to three months in their CVs.
Mr Mercer said the terrorist attacks on America should have prompted the Government to expand the security services, but this did not happen until the bombings on London's transport network on July 7 2005.
"In fact it took an attack on this country for such measures to be started," he said.
"But at this point it was an unseemly rush of which our enemies, not unsurprisingly, took advantage."
Mr Mercer added he was concerned that al Qaida sympathisers who may have infiltrated the security services had not all been rooted out yet.
Mr Mercer said the two recruits who had allegedly been to training camps were not dismissed until after they had been given several weeks of training at MI5.
But the others were identified before they started training.
Mercer = "good" cop (calls for an inquiry, but specifies the events are only directly AFTER 7/7... thereby setting the time-frame for any such "inquiry" [white-wash] in order to not deal with pre-7/7 recruiting. Neither Haroon Aswat, nor Martin McDaid, nor the possibility of Khan and/or Tanweer being MI5 recruits/informants would therefore be investigated. No-one's been "hurt" after 7/7, so nobody would get too big a blame.)
MI5 = bad/"silly" cop (spin that they were unaware for a time that certain individuals were "Al Qaida", instead of the truth that they were recruiting individuals to become and/or pose as "Al Qaida".)
It also covers their arses for any possible leak of evidence regarding Khan and/or Tanweer being MI5 recruits, by brainwashing the people to accept that if this did happen, then it was simply a case of two "Al Qaida" agents infiltrating MI5.
Quote:
"In fact it took an attack on this country for such measures to be started. But at this point it was an unseemly rush at which our enemies, not unsurprisingly, took advantage." - Patrick Mercer
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject:
Yup,
The directors of these occultic organisations, rumoured to be appointed by Evelyn De Rothschild (read Spycatcher), certainly do serve the oligarchy but it's a matter of dispute how far that trickles down.
It can't be easy running an organisation which defeats the very aims it is supposed to be there for.
ie. facilitates terrorism when it's suposed to stop it
Do read Richard Tomlinson's book 'The Big Breach' on this becauise it explains that as soon as he started thinking for himself the MI6 bosses tried to send him into a situatio whee he would be killed as they had blown his cover before he went in. He escaped by the skin of his teeth. So as I say read the book.
Very close to the monarchy which has a massive network of virtually silent but powerful tentacles right across Britain.
From the MI5/6 director's point of view as many employees as possible have to be sociopaths so they will witness heinous deeds but keep their mouths shut... and I'm not sure I believe that's possible.
Young people will be recruited because they are less principled and easily influenced and the older officers retired.
Hope they have a decent trade union
kbo234 wrote:
Yup.
The real enemy is MI5.....
........or MI5 is an important part of it anyway.
Can we fairly say that MI5/MI6 serve our real enemy, the embedded financial oligarchy.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:16 pm Post subject:
@ Danny: 'It also covers their arses for any possible leak of evidence regarding Khan and/or Tanweer being MI5 recruits, by brainwashing the people to accept that if this did happen, then it was simply a case of two "Al Qaida" agents infiltrating MI5.'
Quite agree. I was going to post the same opinion till I saw you'd already covered it. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
@ Danny: 'It also covers their arses for any possible leak of evidence regarding Khan and/or Tanweer being MI5 recruits, by brainwashing the people to accept that if this did happen, then it was simply a case of two "Al Qaida" agents infiltrating MI5.'
Quite agree. I was going to post the same opinion till I saw you'd already covered it.
That happens to me as well, quite often now. I think it's a good sign, that more people are speaking what they really think deep down.
That which is deep is rising to the surface. Perhaps we shall see mountains (governments) cast into the sea (of peoples), like someone famous said.
@ Tony G: "MI5 Caught Recruiting "Al-Qaeda" Operatives
should read
MI5 Caught Recruiting MI6 Operatives?"
That's more like it, yes.
I saw a movie called "The Killing Room" (2009), which is a "fictional" telling of an experiment overseen by the CIA/MK-ULTRA program crowd (MK-ULTRA is about using mind control techniques to produce civilian assassins).
For me, there were three things of note about the movie. The first is that regardless of the veracity or otherwise of the specific scenario chosen for the movie, it portrays the cold-blooded psychotic evil of these people perfectly. We know that in reality, these people have experimented on innocent people, screwing with their minds, and also murdered others. It is the same evil.
Secondly, someone involved with the movie, a script-writer perhaps, chose to insert a "subliminal" message with the truth about "Al Qaida". The MK-ULTRA people play recorded sounds of Arabic voices and prayers, to the captives they are experimenting on, in the room they are held. The captives cannot see who it is, but they hear these faint sounds and therefore believe that it is "Al Qaida" who has them captive. They are right, for these people (CIA/MI6/MK-ULTRA/Tavistock, etc) and "Al Qaida", are, of course, one and the same.
Thirdly, it demonstrates how those people who get to learn, and even SEE, these evil things take place, are intimidated and shocked into doing nothing and going along with it, in spite of their soul wanting to aid the victims. And that's how THEY can get away with mass murders like on 911 and 7/7.
The main baddie was sort of Kissinger-esque. And he certainly had the same opinion of civilians, as Kissinger does of soldiers... and probably has in private about civilians too.
The movie is not for those with a weak heart, or stomach.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject:
Synopsis - The Killing Room
Four volunteers sign up for what initially appears to be a typical paid research study, only to discover that they've unwittingly become involved with a classified government program that was said to have been terminated nearly two decades ago, in this tense psychological thriller from director Jonathan Liebesman.
The allure of a little extra cash proving too powerful to resist, four strangers decide to partake in a paid research study. As the study gets underway, the group is presented with a series of questions, and given a finite window of time in which each individual member must submit a unique numerical answer. At first, the participants all assume that the subject who gives the most obviously incorrect answer will be removed from the experiment, though it doesn't take long for the group to realize that the correct answer isn't always the answer that the researchers are looking for. Meanwhile, as the brooding Dr. Phillips (Peter Stormare) attempts to manipulate the study to get the answers he wants, the newest member of his team, military psychologist Ms. Reilly (Chloe Sevigny) begins questioning the ethics of such a diabolical experiment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoqAszG5EYc
Reminds me of this film
'Das Experiment' based on the famous Stanford University 'psyop' prison experiment
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