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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Zionism and 9/11 discussed Reply with quote

This thread was triggered by poseidon's post on this thread

Poseidon wrote:
There may be a real person behind "Rachel" - just as there were real people behind approximately half of the 9/11 "Muslim suicide hijackers" (including Mohammed Atta). They wound up as shark bait in the Gulf of Mexico after being lured onto one of Jack Abramoff's gambling boats. (The others were found alive and well within two weeks, having merely had their passports stolen.) But let's get one thing clear. There were more people killed in the back of Teddy Kennedy's car at Chappaquiddick than there ever were "suicide bombers" in the UK, or "suicide pilots" in the US.

A genuine bombing survivor would not take such a consistently pro-government political line, especially when the government version of events is demonstrably a mix of unadulterated absurdities and physical impossibilities. It is ludicrous to imagine that a keen cricketer and a special needs care assistant would have been part of a secret conspiracy and would suddenly turn on their fellow men. The police claimed that the "Muslims" caught the 7:40 Thameslink train - this was cancelled due to problems with the overhead lines in the Mill Hill area.

Please see www.takeourworldback.com/77suicidebombershoax/ for a full explanation of how we know who carried out the London 7/7 bombings. Hint: the same people were responsible for the WTC demolition, the recent sinking of an Egyptian ferry, the forcing of the US and UK to hand over their armed forces as Israel's proxy army, the Jordan attacks of 2005, the Bali bombings of 2002 and 2005, the tricking of Reagan into bombing Libya, the killing of WPC Yvonne Fletcher, the assassination of John F Kennedy and Robert Maxwell, the attack on Palestine's King David hotel in 1946, the attacks on Egypt in 1954 ("Lavon Affair")... But that's rather too many clues!

Of course Rachel should be allowed to post. The more these spooks try to peddle the nonsense of "suicide bombers", the more successfully they prove their premise to be false.


to which I replied

ian neal wrote:
Welcome poseidon,

There are few things I wanted to comment on regarding your first post

Poseidon wrote:
There may be a real person behind "Rachel"


There is no may be. Rachel is a real person. Some on this thread have speculated that she may in some way not be what she appears to be but this is speculation and as I have said several times unless it is supported by hard evidence, such speculation is unhelpful IMO.

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A genuine bombing survivor would not take such a consistently pro-government political line, especially when the government version of events is demonstrably a mix of unadulterated absurdities and physical impossibilities...... Of course Rachel should be allowed to post. The more these spooks try to peddle the nonsense of "suicide bombers", the more successfully they prove their premise to be false.


I think we need to take care not to jump to conclusions. There will be plenty of genuine bombing survivors who do not challenge the government version of events and disagree that this version is 'a mix of unadulterated absurdities and physical impossibilities' just as there are genuine 9/11 survivors and family groups that wrap themselves in the flag and don't challenge Bush's version of 9/11. On the basis of Rachel's writing she clearly accepts the government version of events, however she is also publicly no fan of either Blair or the war. So on this basis we cannot conclude she is a spook (any more than you or anyone else could be)

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Please see www.takeourworldback.com/77suicidebombershoax/ for a full explanation of how we know who carried out the London 7/7 bombings. Hint: the same people were responsible for the WTC demolition, the recent sinking of an Egyptian ferry, the forcing of the US and UK to hand over their armed forces as Israel's proxy army, the Jordan attacks of 2005, the Bali bombings of 2002 and 2005, the tricking of Reagan into bombing Libya, the killing of WPC Yvonne Fletcher, the assassination of John F Kennedy and Robert Maxwell, the attack on Palestine's King David hotel in 1946, the attacks on Egypt in 1954 ("Lavon Affair")... But that's rather too many clues!


Now for the real chestnut, the role of Isreal in 9/11 and how the crimes of the Isreali state are discussed.

Firstly let me say that I am aware of some of the evidence that purports to link Isreal to 9/11 such as

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fAoe26MaTew
http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/2002-03-13/fishwrapper.html
http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/2002-03-20/fishwrapper.html
http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/2002-03-27/fishwrapper.html

I am also aware of Isreal's history, its crimes against the Palestinian people, the links of MOSAD to false flag terrorism and the close and often hidden connections between elements of successive US and UK administrations and Isreal and zionism throughout the 20 century continuing until today. I view zionism and the zionist policies of the Isreali as racist and bigotted and akin institutionalised racism of the apartheid regime in South Africa.

That said I am concerned with your statement (that for a FULL explanation of how we know who carried out the London 7/7 bombings) and the link that basically leads readers to conclude the answer is MOSAD on the direction of the Isreali government. The site then goes on to further suggest Isreal was behind 9/11 and the holcaust was a hoax. Can I ask is it your site or just one you recommend?

Firstly IMO to truly understand how shadow politics of the NWO fascists works we need to look way beyond what is on the surface and attributing blame to any one nation, religion or grouping. They are all just labels designed to sow fear and division amongst humanity. IMO The powers that be owe no allegiance except to themselves and their strategy is problem-reaction-solution or order out of chaos by divide and rule. This strategy relies on them controlling or strongly influencing all sides, so in no way can understanding the global elite and their treachery be condensed down into zionism against the world'. The suggestion that the FULL answer to understanding this lies in understanding the zionists and Isreal is deeply flawed IMO.

Secondly there is a further problem I have with the website. In recommending www.whatreallyhappened.com, you will no doubt be aware of the charges of anti-semiticism levelled at the sites author Mike Rivero (Ref). Now I reckon Mike answers these charges quite well in that he makes a distinction between the crimes of MOSAD and the lack of responsibility of Jewish people for these crimes (although he should really talk of Isreali citizens rather Jewish people since clearly not all Isreali's are Jewish and not all Jews are Isreali's) and I feel he is unwise in some of the material he has posted or linked to on his site.

On a fairly cursory reading http://www.takeourworldback.com/ appears even more open to the charge of 'anti-semiticism' (PS I don't need an explanation on the definition of a semite and know the charge is more accurately anti-jewish).

Take this link from the 7/7 page for example. With headings like "The Jews Behind It All" the article promotes a world view that we are no longer talking about a false flag conspiracy involving elements of MOSAD but a wider Jewish conspiracy. This is very dangerous and is a very small step to the type ideology of Hitler and the Nazi's used to scapegoat the jews in WWII.

From here is a very small step to the likes of David Duke and from David Duke to the Ayrian master-race psychos

I'm aware of much of the evidence that requires us to rethink our understanding of WWII (such as the origins and funding of the nazi war machine, key incidents like the Reichstag fire and Pearl Harbour and operation paperclip, the collusion between allied forces and nazi scientists post WWII to name but a few) and for all I know there is valid information in the takeourworldback links to revise our understanding of the scale of the Jewish holocaust. But it is one thing to say there are valid grounds to reconsider official history and entirely another to claim the holocaust is a hoax and to allow such claims to be used by fascists, hitler apologists and promoters of Jewish hate. For these reasons I am extremely suspicious of the whole holocaust revisionist movement, largely because it fails to make this distinction clearly enough and to separate itself from fascists and bigots. This failure makes me suspect that many such revisionists are the knowing or unknowing puppets of the forces they claim to oppose.

Now I'm all for free speech and open debate, but equally I know the power of hate speech to fuel division and conflict. Just look at the role of (French sponsored) Hutu hate radio in the Rwandan genocide. This site has a simple ethos: anyone can say what they like (including evidence of MOSAD/Isreali involvement in fake terror) as long as it doesn't promote hatred, bigotry and violence. IMO linking to sites such as jewwatch could lead to hatred and violence against people of a certain faith, namely jews, but I will await the thoughts of you and other posters, before arging that this post should be removed.

If nothing else if you followed rachel's blog you will know she recently referred to posters on this site as anti-semitic conspiraloons (or words to that effect). To date I believe those accusations of anti-semiticism are totally unsupported, but allowing links to http://www.takeourworldback.com to go unchallenged and undebated will certainly fuel these accusations.

The antisemiticism charge is the one of the most commonly used and effective charges our critics make of the 9/11 truth movement. Collectively the movement needs to strike a balance between on the one hand promoting free speech and a respect for diversity of opinion and challenging falsely laided accusations of anti-semiticism (For example IMO, based on his books and talks, David Icke is falsely labelled an anti-semite by his critics) and on the other hand acknowledging and rejecting those voices that do exist within the movement who are antisemitic or who do promote hatred and violence. Anti-semites do exist (they are not all an invention of the ADL) and some support 9/11 truth. If I were allied to the PTB I would encourage these fascists involvement in 9/11 truth as a means of discrediting the wider movement and a way of preventing genuine scrutiny of Isreal/MOSAD's involvement in 9/11

What do others think? If there is a lot response I suggest a separate thread to discuss this issue

Ian


and Brian added

brian wrote:
Difficult to fault your post Ian in any way other than the usual void it leaves - how do we identify who or what exactly we are up against here?

Can we positively identify this cabal you and others, including myself, can only describe as the powers that be?

It is impossible to ignore the Mossad/Jewish/Zionist/Israeli role in September 11 or their control of major media or as the source of much of the false intelligence leading to Iraq.

The same, more importantly, goes for their control or influence in the world financial system.

What we are witnessing in Iraq in many ways is a blueprint of documented Israeli foreign policy, an Iraq preferably dismembered and weakened by internal strife. This situation as we know is largely the result of the pro Israeli lobby so dominant in the US.

There are large bodies of Jews against Zionism and all forms of Jewish extremism, a welcome sign of this we have just witnessed in the rejection of Netanyahu at the Israeli elections.

I see no reason to allow the charge of anti semitism to stop anyone stating facts which in no way reflect on the Jewish people themselves and one of those facts is the inordinate influence and power some of the Jewish have.


To which I reply

Thanks Brian. I see the solution as one which focuses on

1) facts and evidence from verifiable sources and given the controversial subject, use sources which the MSM would accept as credible. So for example in explaining the PTB control of global finance we could do worse than the money masters. It names names, provides the evidence, but avoids 'the jews are behind it all' offensive headlines used by the jewwatch site or avoids bringing religion into the issue

2) makes a clear distinction between those in the highest positions of power and those of lesser influence who are unlikely to be aware of the bigger picture

3) helps people see beyond the surface labels people wear, so that it is clear that the PTB is made up of people of all faiths and no faith at all and that their public pronouncements of faith are in all likelihood phoney. Afterall if GWB is a Christian...........

4) helps people see the clear distinction between arch-zionists and people of Jewish faith in general, there are many jews against zionism, just as there are muslims against violent interpretations of wahhabism/al qaeda and many Christians opposed to the armageddeon fantacies of left behind rapturists. The PTB have their tentacles into the zealots of all faiths and any other extreme dogma or cult, which is hardly surprising since they need polarised and conflicting opinion so much the easier to fuel conflict and hatred and present themselves as the voice of reason and middle ground

5) helps people recognise that 9/11 truth is a progressive movement which has a natural common cause with the wider 'anti-war'/peace movement and 'anti-globalisation', 'anti-capitalist' movements and those allied to movements like make poverty history. That our cause is one based on truth, justice, unity transparency, accountability and respect of diversity.

6) Recognises there is a balance to be struck between freedom of speech and responsible restriction and challenge to sites/opinion that provokes hatred and violence. As such we should reject fascism in all its forms and in particular the war mongers and (religious) zealots that preach hatred and violenece.

7) Lastly and most importantly we should promote the positive alternatives to the PTB's insanity. We should promote interfaith networks like

http://mujca.com/

and networks that espouse unity and love such as

http://www.planetization.org/
http://www.earthrainbownetwork.com/ and
http://www.bethechange.org.uk/ to name a few of my favourites

In short we should not let the smears of anti-semiticism prevent us discussing Isreal, zionism and the role of the Jewish faith in the world

At the same time IMO it is a big mistake to see the shadowy web of connections between the elite of politics, media, banking, business, the military and so on (commonly referred to as the Powers That Be (or PTB) or the military-industrial complex in days of old) solely through a Jewish lens. To do so is playing their game IMO

Similarly IMO it is a mistake to see 9/11 and the war of terror as being ALL about oil or ALL about an american empire.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:36 am    Post subject: Discussion of zionism and 9/11 Reply with quote

ian neal wrote:
>That said I am concerned with your statement (that for a FULL >explanation of how we know who carried out the London 7/7 bombings) >and the link that basically leads readers to conclude the answer is >MOSAD on the direction of the Isreali government. The site then goes >on to further suggest Isreal was behind 9/11 and the holcaust was a >hoax. Can I ask is it your site or just one you recommend?

Yes, this is my site. Of course no one should be persecuted, tortured or killed purely on the basis of race or religion. And in fact, that's what is happening today, when Muslims are picked off the street to be tortured into "confessing" some imaginary crime whose purpose is to reinforce the illusion of a "Muslim conspiracy".

I deal with the distinction between "Jewish people" and "zionist cabal" at various points on the site, particularly at www.takeourworldback.com/short/bad.htm

Disinformation agents obfuscate and divert attention to "NWO", "globalists", and anyone but the real culprits: people such as Dov Zakheim, Larry Silverstein, Jack Abramoff, Bibi Netanyahu, etc.

The facts are that Israel did not do the Pentagon attack (they tricked the US government into that so they could piggyback their own $3.6 billion insurance scam at the WTC at no risk of Bush administration reprisals); they did not do London July 21; they did not do the Asian tsunami. But they are responsible for a great deal of major crime, including the aforementioned WTC demolition, the London 7/7 bombings, Sharm al-Sheikh a couple of weeks later for the same reason, and the gigantic extortion racket of the "Holocaust, which netted hundreds of billions of dollars and hundreds of billions of marks over a 60-year period, not to mention control of puppet satellite states' foreign policy.

Today we are in a curious situation whereby the uninitiated perceive 9/11 sceptics as loony (leftist) conspiracy nuts, and Holocaust sceptics as right-wing extremists. When one investigates 9/11, it becomes obvious that the government version of events is the loony conspiracy theory; when one investigates the "Holocaust", it becomes obvious that the present system of the few ripping off the many is an extreme right-wing system.

So, we have to spell out that the race that gave us Einstein, whose geometric account of gravity obviated the implication that it was somehow clever enough to weigh objects and adjust for constant acceleration; and harmless types like Barry Manilow, who is surely not part of a conspiracy, should be a respected, integral part of the better world we hope to establish. All it takes is a tiny elite of Jewish leaders to mislead them into thinking that they have to bomb Gentiles / goyim in order to "save Jews", just like the Gentile governments trick their forces into invading other nations on a false prospectus.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remain unconvinced Poseidon that your site is not anti-jewish or that it does not incite anti-jewish hatred. So let me ask...

Do you accept my statements that the Powers That Be

1) is made up of people of all faiths and no faith at all and that their public pronouncements of faith are in all likelihood phoney and

2) have their tentacles into the zealots of all faiths and any other extreme dogma

If so why does your website present everything through a jewish lens (unless it is anti-jewish)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Poseidon who said:
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So, we have to spell out that the race that gave us Einstein,

As far as I know there is only one race, the human race, and being Jewish is a religion.

I concur with Ian Neal, when I visited your site there was a strong scent of anti-semitism.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Ian Neal, well said. What you are writing about I have seen for so long and you have articulated it wonderfully. Well done.

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it is clear that the PTB is made up of people of all faiths and no faith at all and that their public pronouncements of faith are in all likelihood phoney. Afterall if GWB is a Christian...........


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I am extremely suspicious of the whole holocaust revisionist movement, largely because it fails to make this distinction clearly enough and to separate itself from fascists and bigots. This failure makes me suspect that many such revisionists are the knowing or unknowing puppets of the forces they claim to oppose.


Both really good thoughts there. So many seem to have jumped on the Holocaust revisionist band wagon with out thinking it through.

Good work Ian

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I remain unconvinced Poseidon that your site is not anti-jewish or that it does not incite anti-jewish hatred.


I remain unconvinced that ian neal is not a gatekeeper working for the zionists or the government.

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So let me ask...

Do you accept my statements that the Powers That Be

1) is made up of people of all faiths and no faith at all and that their public pronouncements of faith are in all likelihood phoney and


No. The real PTB are Jews, mostly secular, and any public claims of faith are probably phony. However, these PTB are just a tiny, crooked elite - a "mafia" - within the Jewish people. The Jewish people include the totally innocent Orthodox Jews such as Jews not Zionism, and the descendants of a tribe originating from the ancient kingdom of Khazaria, which was sited around the present day south-western corner of the Russian Federation near its border with Georgia. Nearly all of the Khazar people are innocent of plots to establish a world dictatorship, escalate local wars into World Wars to further their own agenda, and the deception of false-flag attacks for mostly political purposes. But a cabal of highly organized criminals has long existed within the ex-Khazars.

We are all part of the human race, and it is high time that racial conflict be settled (conflict and division which the crooked elite exploit). But within the global organized crime network, there is a hierarchy. The Jewish members of the criminal network are more powerful than, say, the Christian zionists within the Bush administration. Sometimes the Christians do not toe the line, e.g. the invasion of Afghanistan (for the CIA to profit from the heroin trade) occurred prior to the invasion of Iraq (which was what Israel demanded). In such a case, Israeli state terrorism generally re-establishes the prevailing hierarchy, e.g. the November 2001 sabotage of Flight AA 587 which crashed into Belle Harbor - allegedly due to "turbulence". The hierarchy would derive from the zionist cabal's money accumulation skills, their ability to get close to and corrupt national leaders, the Machiavellian brilliance of their strategy including substantial control of the media, and their skill in state terrorism / staging false-flag attacks. Bush, Blair, Howard, Berlusconi, etc, are clearly below the real PTB in the hierarchy.

So the Khazarian rulers cynically converted to Judaism about 700 - 900 AD in order to exploit divisions between Christians and Muslims, effectively hijacking the religion of Judaism for their own political and business purposes. But it went much further than that. Creating a fable about a "holocaust" yielded so many advantages for the zionist mafia, that given their lack of scruples, it would have been silly of them not to.

One of the immense benefits was that they got their own sovereign state - Palestine. But very importantly, it allowed these crooks to hide behind a race, such that whenever anyone tried to expose their crimes they would claim that attacks on them were attacks on that race.

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2) have their tentacles into the zealots of all faiths and any other extreme dogma


The PTB doubtless have their tentacles into zealots of all faiths. It's not just the Christian zionists, it's characters such as Abu Hamza who suit the purposes of both the zionist cabal and their puppets such as the Blair government.

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If so why does your website present everything through a jewish lens (unless it is anti-jewish)


The evidence is that the Jewish / zionist crime syndicate is more powerful than other organized crime.

Suppose the Italian Mafia was far more powerful, wicked and cunning than it actually is. For two or three centuries it went into banking and accumulated vast sums to be used as seed money for its planned political projects. Around 1890 it decided to obtain its own sovereign state - Germany, say. A hoax is created about "six million" gassed and cremated Italians following the arrangement of two World Wars, in the second of which 100,000 Italians died from typhus and malnutrition. The German Italian Mafia state then stages phony terror attacks to trick countries such as the US and UK into attacking France.

When someone points out that these phony terror attacks - staged by the Italian Mafia and blamed on "the French" - were actually orchestrated by the German state, i.e. the Italian Mafia, they are met with shrill cries of "anti-Italian!", "a hate site", etc, and the criminals continue their killing for profit with impunity.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:26 pm    Post subject: Your next Challenge ............ Reply with quote

Poseidon,

I think that we have all got your drift by now. Thank You.

You might consider that to counter the machiavellian games of the PTB, it is absolutely imperative that we learn to probe and assimilate far beyond that which is perhaps most obvious.

Consider the possibility that the real PTB are extremely well rehearsed in their activities and would not be quite so foolish as to leave so many threads trailling to their door. That is not to deny that there are those amongst the Zionist leadership who do indeed consider that they are the prime movers in most, if not all, global events.

The focus of attention on the apparent machinations of the Zionists suits the real power players, down to the proverbial ground; for the very simple reason that it endorses the perception that the smoke screen, manipulated by the real PTB, is in good working order.

It is evident that your investigative skills are working well and it because of this observation that I would encourage you, most strongly, to re-visit the cabalistic onion and peel back a further layer.

The knowledge retained (but abused) by the Cabal Elite goes way beyond that of the Zionists. Indeed the Zionists are mere pawns in the wider game.

The posts on your website are not without merit and may well accelerate the learning of many who read your disserations. However, this is a part of the journey .............. it is most definitely not the final destination!

Enjoy the ride.

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Consider the possibility that the real PTB are extremely well rehearsed in their activities and would not be quite so foolish as to leave so many threads trailling to their door. That is not to deny that there are those amongst the Zionist leadership who do indeed consider that they are the prime movers in most, if not all, global events.


I agree that my version of events is not the definitive account; it is a hypothesis which best fits the available facts and will be revised as new evidence comes to light.

We know there are at least three layers of the "onion". For the general public, the fictional nonsense about "suicide" bombers or hijackers is employed. Level two is the theory that the "government did it" [9/11, 7/7, etc]. Level three includes the zionist role in 7/7 and the WTC demolition. Gatekeepers try to steer attention down to the previous level; it is also likely that some of the PTB's operatives take their theories too far in order to discredit sceptics.

So everyone has their idea of the ideal sceptic - i.e. one who agrees with their view at the time. Someone who doesn't go far enough is perceived as a gatekeeper; a critic who seems too controversial could also seem to be connected with the criminals. Some sceptics such as Daryl Bradford Smith and Eric Hufschmid can seem a little too paranoid - suspecting almost everyone of "working for the zionists".

The problem with "government did it" theories is whether states would willingly sacrifice dozens or thousands of their own people - apart from warfare, where governments hope for low losses on their own side but nevertheless are gambling with their own side's lives and deliberately killing foreigners. To boost these theories, the Operation Northwoods document was cited, but that appears to have been a forgery. As early as January 2002, it was pointed out that the forgers appeared to have forgotten to change the expression "off on a holiday" to "on vacation".

The "zionists did it" theories are better because they have Mossad operatives loyally warning their own people (9/11, 7/7, Amman 2005, etc) whilst being prepared to kill dozens to thousands of the "other race" or "foreigners ". The zionist cabal can create myths about persecution of Jews, and then exploit their people's fears of persecution as a recruiting sergeant for Mossad terrorists.

It would be very interesting to find details of a level three cabal that was able to influence the zionists right back to about 1890 (then the Rothschilds' accumulation of riches would have to be just simple money-making, and the principal players somehow recruited the Rothschilds about 1890). The Bilderberg meetings only go back to 1954, and the original proposer was not Prince Bernhard but Joseph Retinger, a Polish Jewish political advisor who founded the appalling European Movement in 1948. Warren Buffett and the World Trade Center executives e.g. Anne Tatlock of Fiduciary Trust Co International were inside the Offutt, Nebraska military base on 9/11, where their unpublicised charity benefit started at 8:00 a.m., G.W.Bush was there from shortly before 3:00 to 4:30 p.m.. That might have been coincidental.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tendency to look for a caste-like element within our own societies to explain the bizarre behaviour of the ruling class is quite understandable and indeed jews do exhibit caste-like behaviour, as do other ethnic groups in diasporic conditions.

However, a patient reading of Marx's historical works might help to show that there really is a force which can only be called "class consciousness" which holds the various global bourgeois fractions together when they encounter challenges.

This "class consciousness" has never been exposed in all its true strangeness (as a mass psychological phenomenon) by anyone except Marx himself, that I know of.

Because this concept is so hard to grasp we blame the castes, so to speak. And indeed they play an assigned part - they have no option.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prole wrote:

I concur with Ian Neal, when I visited your site there was a strong scent of anti-semitism.

Might i point out that the guy Anthony Lawson who you seemed to agree wholeheartedly with was the most anti-semitic of all

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"I don't believe that China and Bush are on even occasional cunnilingus terms"
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/138351
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A clever "Two Ronnies" skit, probably written by Ronnie Barker himself. He does a good impersonation of an Anglo-Orthodox Jew.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBRiWcqMX6M

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Zionist Jews- Godfathers Of Terrorism

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Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:52

Palestine, the land of Palestinians, is located in the heart of the Middle East and Jerusalem where Masjid Al Aqsa, Islam's first Qibla is located, has been its capital since time immemorial. At the turn of last century Palestine was a province of Turkey's Ottoman Empire. It was a place where violence was unknown and one seldom heard people speak loud leave alone using a bad .Violence raised its ugly head in all its fury, with the advent of Jewish migrants to set up under the combined conspiracy of Jews and European colonial powers a Jewish racist state in Palestine to destabilise the Muslim Middle East.

Turkey was defeated during World War 1 and Palestine was brought under the British Mandatory Authority. The Arab rulers, including the Saudis, sided with Britain during the war on a promise that Palestine would be given freedom after the war. However, instead of freedom Britain helped the Zionist Jews to drive out the Palestinians from their lands and homes and set up a separate state for migrant Jews.

Under this conspiracy, actively implemented by the British Mandatory Authority, Jews who had not even seen the place were brought in from Russia, Middle East and other areas to Palestine where even around 1990 about 95 percent of the population were Palestinian Arabs who owned ninety percent of the land.

The Palestinians were alarmed and worried at the rapidly growing numbers of violence-prone migrant Jews who started provoking them. For example, while the peaceful Muslims in Jerusalem were celebrating the Prophet Muhammad's ( PBUH) birthday on 16 August 1929, the Jewish migrants hoisted the flag of the Star of David on the Wailing Wall and roused communal hostility against the Muslims by provocative slogans. This led to armed confrontation resulting in the arrest and the execution of many Palestinians in what was later called the "Tuesday of Blood".

The British Mandatory Authority trained migrant Jewish youths in warfare skills and provided them with sophisticated arms ,tanks and planes while Arab homes and even mosques were searched for arms;
Arabs who had penknives with them were arrested like criminals and punished. The British hanged Arabs who dared to oppose the arrival of Jewish immigrants on the lampposts of Jerusalem as a means of crushing the protest. Therefore, the British crime against the Muslims did not start with Tony Blair's partnership in George Bush's crusade against Islam and Muslims under the guise of war on terror.

In the midst of this calamity, migrant Jews established terrorist brigades such as Hagana, Stern and Irgun under the leadership of Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir. Later these Jewish terror gangs embarked upon a bloody campaign of manslaughter to terrorise the Palestinians, drive them out from their homes and grab their lands while the powerful and well-organised international Zionist propaganda machine deceived the world by justifying these crimes as they are now doing to camouflage their barbarity in Gaza. Thus began organised Jewish violence that still reeks with the blood and butchery of the innocent hapless victims of the region.

On 22, July 1946, Menachem Begin and his gangs planted bombs in the basement of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91- 25 Britons,41 Arabs and 17 Jews. While echoes of this explosion were still being heard, there began a wave of violence which ruthlessly devastated the region from which it has not been able to recover to date.

It was this same Menachem Begin,"Godfather of terrorism", who was later accepted by the champions of human rights in the West as the respectable Prime Minister of Israel and was even awarded the coveted Nobel Prize for Peace.His partner in crime against Palestinians Yitzhak Shamir who led the Jewish terrorist group Stern too became the Israeli Prime Minister.He proudly recalled later his notorious killings in Jerusalem to drive Palestinians out to establish the Zionist State of Israel.

These Zionists committed a series of reprehensible massacres against the Palestinian Arabs who were forced into exile by the millions.The US supplied, as it does even today at the cost of American taxpayers,the Israeli Zionist terror gangs with weapons and other means of destruction such as a huge quantity of TNT that was shipped to Tel Aviv.The Zionist terrorists, using a British police vehicle, exploded a barrel of TNT among a crowd of Arabs at the Hebron Gate Market place in Jerusalem killing twenty Arabs and wounding seventy others.

Designed to destroy the Palestinian resistance, Menachem Begin went on a murderous rampage and within a week butchered hundreds of innocent Palestinian men, women and children ­ 100 in the derailment of Haifa Cairo express and 254 in Deir Yassin, a village a few miles off Jerusalem.The Deir Yassin massacre has been one of the most barbarous crimes ever committed against humanity and could be coupled with the infamous "My Lai massacre in Vietnam".

After dropping seven bombs on this small Arab village of Deir Yassin of 775 people Begin gunned or bayoneted 254 of its unarmed men, women and children of all ages including ninety-year- old Hajj Ismail Attich and the eighteen-month-old baby Mohammed who was butchered on the bosom of his mother. The mutilated bodies of the victims were thrown into a well in the village. Of the 254 victims were 22 pregnant mothers, a woman teacher by the name of Hayat Balabse who wore a Red Cross badge and was tending the wounded when she was butchered, a blind man, Mohammed Khalil Mustafa, and his wife, Latifa Mustafa, who was trying to lead him to safety when the attackers slaughtered both. The women, girls and the children who survived the holocaust were rounded up at dawn by Menachem Begin and his gangs and then loaded into Lorries to Jerusalem where they were paraded through the Jewish streets, jeered and spat upon. Menachem Begin pronounced this wholesale murder a "victory" and boasted about his crime as a memorable day in Jewish history.

Panic overwhelmed the Palestinians who began to flee in terror even before they clashed with Jewish forces. Haganah carried out merciless attacks on other fronts. All the Jewish forces proceeded to advance through Haifa like a hot knife through butter. The Arabs, unarmed and unorganised, fled in panic shouting "Deir Yassin".

Commenting on this massacre, renowned historian Arnold Toynbee said in his book "A Study of History": "The evil deeds committed by the Zionist Jews against the Palestinian Arabs that were comparable to crimes committed against the Jews by the Nazis, were the massacre of men, women and children at Deir Yassin which precipitated a flight of the Arab population in large numbers from districts within range of the Jewish armed forces, and the subsequent expulsion of the Arab population from districts conquered by the Jewish forces between 15 May 1948 and end of the year. The blood at Deir Yassin was on the head of the Irgun; the expulsion of Palestinians after 15 May 1948 was on the head of all Israelis."

According to Moshe Menuhin, the real war "fait accompli" was precipitated at Deir Yassin by Menachem Begin and his terror gangs on April 9, 1948 ­ massacre, panic and the exile of the Arabs.
The irony is that Begin was not even a Palestinian. He fled his native Poland to the Soviet Union where he was sentenced in 1940 to a Siberian labour camp for his Zionist activities. Released a year later, he joined the Allied war efforts when Begin's Polish army in exile unit was sent to Palestine under British Mandate, in 1942. He abandoned the army uniform in late 1943 and launched a war of ambush and sabotage against the British Authorities in early 1944. The British, condemned Begin as a terrorist and put a price of 10,000 Sterling Pounds on his head for all his crimes.

In the same cold-blooded vein Irgun, Stern and Haganah terror gangs massacred people in a number of other villages. On 14 April 1948 all the people including those from the village of Nasiruddin, except forty fortunate ones who managed to escape, were butchered to death by the bestial, blood-lust Irgun-Stern gangs.On 2 May 1948, carnage on the people was committed in the area of Mazraat El Khoury, overlooking Tiberias by Haganah gangs.
The bodies of many slain women and children were mutilated and a number of old people were beheaded and their limbs cut off. Young people were roasted alive when the Haganah locked them inside a house and set it on fire before the few surviving old people were finally set free by the Haganah .They advised Palestinians to tell their story to the Arab world and sarcastically asked the Arab states to come to their rescue. A mosque was blown up on 6 May, 1948 over the heads of villagers who were locked in by the Zionists at Al Zeitoon, Safad. The entire population of Beit Drass in Gaza was wiped out on 13 May 1948 in another savage attack by the Zionists similar to Deir Yassin massacre. There the pregnant women were bayoneted in the womb; bodies of others atrociously mutilated and all the houses in the villages were finally dynamited. This illustrates the Zionists' bestial and brutal inhumanity to its best.

Menachem Begin admitted the heroic resistance of the Palestinians in Jaffa as the Zionists paid dearly losing considerable lives before they took over Jaffa. In his book Revolt Menachem Begin said that it was the attacks on Arab towns and villages that caused panic among the Arabs who had to abandon their homes and lands and started fleeing into neighbouring countries as refugees. Some Palestinian Arabs left out of fear while others were either expelled or forced to leave due to oppression or after their homes were destroyed. Palestinian refugees, in many instances, were physically expelled from their homes and villages.

The Zionists also caused the exodus of Arabs from Palestine, through loudspeakers installed in armoured cars, and sarcastically asserted that the road to Amman was open. Another method used was the mass destruction of their homes and villages. For example, two residential quarters of the Old City of Jerusalem, Magharbeh and Saadiyahs, were razed to the ground to establish a parking ground in front of the Wailing Wall.

Since then the Palestinians, driven out of their homes and lands, have been suffering in the refugee camps for more than seventy years. Tired mothers and hungry and sick children still hope in vain that the UN would settle their problems and let them return to their homes again. They still have the keys to their houses and the deeds to their lands now occupied by immigrant Jews. About a quarter million Palestinian Arabs took refuge in neighbouring countries. Visiting a refugee camp more than fifty years later, in 1990, the former British Foreign Secretary Waldergrave described the conditions there as appalling ­ thanks to his country.

In the midst of the Zionist violence and the Palestinian bloodbath, the state of Israel was proclaimed on 14 May, 1948 over a much larger part of the country than that was allotted to the Zionists even by the UN Partition Resolution. What actually emerged as the Jewish State was anything but the "state" planned for under the partition plan. It was the upshot of brute force created in violation of the principles of the UN Charter, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the very resolution under which the Israelis now claim sovereignty. Minutes after the proclamation of the Zionist state, recognition came from the White House in the USA followed by the Soviet Union, which played a crucial role in the creation of the Zionist state.

The Arab armies were to enter Palestine on that day to rescue what remained of the land and its people. But, as it is the case even today, despite billions of dollars worth of arms, the neighbouring Arab countries were hardly in a position to do anything without the fear of colonial intervention. Therefore, between Palestine and their seats of power, these rulers opted for power and abandoned the Palestinians as they had done even today when they abandoned the Gaza Palestinians who were roasted and toasted by the Zionist Jews.

In his preface to Palestine Diary by Robert John and Sami Hadawi historian Arnold Toynbee had this to say on the British treachery and betrayal: "If Palestine had remained under Ottoman rule, or if it had become an independent Arab state in 1918, Jewish immigrants would never have been admitted into Palestine in large numbers to enable them to overwhelm the Palestinian Arabs in this Arab people's own country. The reason why the State of Israel exists today, why millions of Palestinian Arabs are refugees is that, for thirty years, Jewish immigration was imposed on Palestinian Arabs by British military power until the immigration was sufficiently numerous and with tanks and planes of their own".

Rejecting the idea of a Jewish state, Albert Einstein, the world- renowned scientist said "the state idea is not according to my heart. I cannot understand why it is needed. It is concerned with narrow-mindedness and economic obstacles. I believe it is bad. I have always been against it." Commenting further on the Jewish question Einstein said in his book Out of My Later Years, "I should much rather see a reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from practical considerations, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state, with borders, an army and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain."
The Arab states appealed to the UN and other bodies, of course in vain, to find a peaceful solution. Sixty years later today the Arab rulers are still turning to these very same hostile UN and other forces for solutions to their problems.

The UN Mediator Count Bernadette arrived in Jerusalem in June 1948, the day after the four-week truce became effective in the 1948 war, to inspect thousands of Palestinian refugees in the nearby town of Ramallah, announced his plan for a peaceful solution to the Palestine question. His plan was to create an Arab-Jewish confederation that would cover the whole of Palestine, but with a much smaller portion allotted to the Jews than by the UN partition scheme. The Zionists did not like the idea and to lay it to rest once and for all, they killed Count Bernadotte himself.

Using heavy artillery, 300 Zionist troops attacked the Arab village of Qibyah in the Ramallah district on the midnight of 13 October, 1953. On the following morning the bodies of seventy of its inhabitants, including old men, women and children, were found under the debris of the dynamited houses. The Arabs' demanding imposition of sanctions on Israel and payment of compensation to the victims' families by the perpetrators of the crime, was rejected by the big powers in the UN Security Council.

Three years later on 29 October 1956, the Zionists killed 49 Arabs in the village of Kafr Kassim. Israel referred to the massacre as people having been injured by the frontier guards. At 4.30 PM on that day, Zionist Frontier Guards informed the Mukthar of the village to inform the people that a curfew would be imposed from 5 PM to dawn. Mukthar Wadi Ahmed Sursur told the Zionists that about 400 villagers worked outside the village and he could not inform them as time was short. The Frontier Guards promised Mukthar that all men returning from work would be allowed to pass. However, a bitter fate awaited the villagers when they did return from the day's work as the Zionist gangs massacred them in cold blood without any rhyme or reason.
On the eve of the 1956 war against Egypt by the combined forces of Britain, France and Israel to expropriate the Suez Canal, the Israeli forces made a number of reprisal raids on its northern Arab neighbours in a series of cover up moves to hide their real intentions of a blitz on Egypt. The biggest of these was in Qalquilya in Jordan where, according to UN observers, 48 Arabs were killed. But the mobilization was so large it could no longer be kept a secret. The Zionist troops invaded Sinai, destroyed the Egyptian bases and defeated the Egyptian army before reaching the Gulf of Aqaba so that Israeli warships could use the Red Sea.

In a well calculated war Israel ,backed by the US and Europe ,attacked Egypt, Syria and Jordan in June 1967 and
captured Sharm el Sheikh and occupied the Gaza strip, Sinai Peninsula, West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights .

On 11 June 1967 the cease-fire became effective between Israel and the Arab states. Arab hopes and aspirations were shattered and the Palestinians, languishing in the refugee camps, were thoroughly disillusioned not knowing where to turn to. As the Israeli Defence Minister Moshe Dayan arrogantly said "I don't want any Arab in my Jewish State" the Zionist troops began committing atrocities on the civilian population of Jerusalem from June 5 to 8, 1967. In her book "War in Jerusalem", Sister Marie Theresa, who rendered great assistance to the victims described in the following detail the crimes committed by the Zionist Jews;

"Her convent sustained a direct hit during the Israeli raids as a dozen severely wounded and strangely burnt persons lay with their abdomens open and their arms torn out. The arm of one of the women had to be amputated. All had faces riddled with deep burns that made holes in their skins. They said nothing, not even groaning, but gaped with their black eyes fixed and aghast. The Israeli planes had chosen for their targets, some of the poorest quarters of the Old City like Bab Zahreh and Bab Hottah, knowing very well how crowded they were and that there was no military gain to be scored by such savage raids.

Sister Theresa added "we run to the hospital to bury the dead piling at the entrance. The stench was so horrible in the heat that we have to wear masks. We walk in maggoty pools of blood. In the midst of our despair at not being able to find a vehicle for carrying the dead, a Jew arrives to ask about a dead man. To our surprise, we find that the requested man's body is embalmed, he was English and his rich family had paid for the embalmment. An Israeli ambulance was coming to pick it up. Nothing however for the bodies of the rest! One by one we carry them away with utmost care all the time because the limbs were coming off.... as we approached the Muslim cemetery, a car came up with Moshe Dayan, the Chief Rabbi and Levi Eshkol in it. Jews applauded and the motorcade drove in triumph toward the Temple.

During her visit to the Muslim cemetery, Sister Marie Theresa saw a man "bury his wife and daughter... and massacred children whose skulls broke open". Upon leaving the place there were a number of Israeli girls who were bursting out with laughter and looking very intoxicated with victory, as they carried revolvers in their hands".
"In Bethlehem, Israeli cars with amplifiers warned the inhabitants in Arabic that they had two hours to leave their homes and flee towards Jericho and Amman, otherwise their homes would be bombed."
"We drove slowly in search of the dead woman who was seen in a ditch the day before. Eventually we spotted her and got down to find that she was still clasping the two loaves of bread she had gone out to fetch for her children during the battle. We dug a hole under a rock and buried her in it together with her loaves. We started off again. Three kilometres further on, we came upon two wounded Arabs who had been in that same place by the road for the past three days. Many Israeli vehicles had passed, but none bothered to stop. We carried them to the hospital in Jerusalem".

Back in Jerusalem, these companions of Jesus were shocked by the cruelty of the Jewish invaders. "With curfew imposed everywhere the Arabs cannot move or work and the families ran short of food. The second wave of Israelis consisted of thieves, looters and sometimes murderers, but the third is even worse for it appeared to be driven only by the thought of death and destruction according to a systematic plan. In the evening Father Paul sees Yitzhak Rabin, Israeli Chief of Staff, without any use. "Anguish grips us like a beast that chokes and wrings the heart. The war is over, but we have been too close to the slaughtered lamb. That fifteen-day-old baby. I think of myself as still holding it to me, bruised and blood-smeared all over. When I wake up during the night, scenes pass through my head and I want to scream. Father Paul was so overwhelmed he could not do a thing".

These were only a handful of incidents to quote, as the list grew longer and longer. In his book David and Goliath, Ernest Trost tells a story which sums up the Israeli attitude quite well.

"An American, an Englishman, a Frenchman and an Israeli are on the menu of a cannibal banquet. Before they are put in the pot, each one was granted a last favour by the cannibal chief. The American asks for a hotdog, the Englishman for a glass of whisky, the Frenchman for a pretty girl. The Israeli says; I would like somebody to give me a kick up the backside. Rather surprised, the chief sends for his strongest warriors who take great delight in acceding to the Israeli's request. The Israeli lands a little way off, draws two pistols from his pockets and opens fire on the cannibal chief and his men. The others, panic stricken, run away. The American, the Englishman and the Frenchman run over to him and asked why he did not use his gun earlier. The Israeli replies with a smile, "We Israelis never fight unless we are attacked".

While the 1956 Zionist aggression was carried out in collaboration with France and Britain, in June 1967, the US was the partner in crime with the Jews against the Arabs. There was jubilation everywhere in the capitals of Europe and the US. Britain and France were happy that this time the Zionists successfully avenged, on their behalf, their set backs in the 1956 aggression against Egypt.

Israel occupied and razed more than 400 Palestinian villages between 1948 and 1967 and established exclusive Jewish settlements in their place. There was hardly a word about this too. Almost six months later, the UN managed to pass a resolution No 242 in November 1967, which did not recognise the rights of the Palestinians to return home or statehood; instead stated that Israel should have secure and recognised boundaries.

Later the Zionists and their Western masters exploited the growing rift between Yasser Arafat's PLO and Jordan's playboy King Hussein and used Hussein to crush the PLO by killing about 30,000 Palestinians in the streets of Amman in September 1970. South African-born Zionist Foreign Minister Abba Eban threatened military action to protect King Hussein when Syria tried to intervene and stop the carnage in Amman. Since then King Hussein became the sweetheart of the West, which affectionately described him as the plucky little king who was given a grand political funeral when Israelis brought in world leaders to Amman.

In 1982 Menachem Begin and his Defence Minister Ariel Sharon invaded Lebanon to drive out the Palestine Liberation Organisation which established its base there after being expelled from Amman .Israel thought that they could not control the West Bank and Gaza as long as the PLO was alive and the Palestinians would derive their political will from it. Most Arab dictators too wanted to see the demise of the PLO, as they are helping Israel to destroy Hamas in Gaza now.

Prominent journalist and historian Peter Mansfield said that "anyone now doubting that Menachem Begin, his cabinet and his generals are not a danger to the world peace on the same scale as Hitler and Mussolini is beyond comprehension. After massive air raids Israel has launched a full scale invasion of a neighbouring country, slaughtering hundreds of civilians and terrorizing the population. It has brushed aside UN peace keeping forces and contemptuously dismissed the UN itself. Only South Africa can bear comparison, but beside Israel it appears cautious and restrained.
The attitude of the US is exasperating almost beyond endurance. The familiar pattern which we saw after the Israeli bombing of the Iraqi nuclear reactor and the annexation of Golan Heights is already repeating itself - initial condemnation followed by back tracking. It is no surprise that millions - not only Arabs and Muslims - are convinced that the Americans connived with the Israeli invasion , telling them to go ahead and not to bother about US public disapproval, because it would not be given any teeth.

As Beirut was bombed by air, land and sea, as they are now doing in Gaza, people throughout the world watched the wanton act of destruction unfolding beneath the relentless gaze of television. Within five days 8000 people, 2000 of them in Sidon alone, were killed by the invading Israeli forces and on June 12 and 13, about 400 Lebanese civilians, most of them women and children were blasted to death in their apartments. Hundreds of corpses were buried in one mass grave, now known as Martyr's Square, in Sidon alone.

British journalist with conscience Robert Fisk who covered the war said in his book Pity The Nation that most of the victims were Muslims and on the edge of Sabra, the Muslim cemetery was so crowded with dead from the Israeli raids that corpses were being buried thirty feet deep in mass graves, one on top of the other.
The bodies in decay are disgusting. The smell of human remains in 100 degrees of heat nauseating and it contradicts our most deeply held values - love, beauty, gentleness, health, cleanliness, hygiene and life. Both physically and mentally that stench was the manifestation of our fear and revulsion. When we first walked down the stairs of the Sidon elementary school, where refugees from
Tire found shelter, were bombed by the Israelis on June 7 night, we faced the smell of those men, women and children killed. Why did they die here? How could such an abomination have taken place? If terrorism was a Katyusha attack on Galilee that killed, one, five even ten people what did this charnel house represent?"

This was not an isolated incident throughout Israel's savage air raids as the Red Cross estimated at between 1,500 and 2,000 civilian fatalities in Sidon alone. According to the Red Cross, by the end of first week of the occupation 9,583 people were killed and 16,608 wounded. During the second week, the number reached 14,000, mainly civilians, killed and 20,000 wounded. A total of 12,000 men, women and children were killed in Tire, most of them in the Palestinian refugee camps at Rashidiya, Bourj Al Shemali and Al Bass. Nevertheless, the most horrific toll of casualties was in the Muslim areas of West Beirut where 2,461 were killed by the Israeli raids that also killed hundreds of others in many villages along the Litani River.

The air raids and massacres continued with Israel which, by then, had about 100,000 soldiers with 1,300 tanks in Lebanon, demanding complete surrender of the PLO whose forces were trapped in Beirut. As if the carnage by air raids were not enough the Jews began using, the US supplied destructive cluster bombs against West Beirut where the mournful exodus of citizens continued. No food was allowed in and the Israeli troops even grabbed baskets of food from Muslim women and threw them into the ditch. According to Robert Fisk, Phalangist militiamen grabbed two bottles of water from a 65 or 70 year old woman, smashing them saying "F...k your sister" in front of four Israeli soldiers, who laughed.

Describing the Israeli cruelty even in hospitals Dr. Amal Shamma of the Beirut Hospital said "after the Zionists fired phosphorus shells in West Beirut on 29 July, I had to take the babies and put them in buckets of water to put out of flames. When I look them out half an hour later, they were still burning. Even in the mortuary, they smouldered for hours". Journalist Jim Muir described the invasion as an Israeli American double act, working in partnership, with the Americans trying to reap the fruits of the Israeli invasion.

American envoys continued to press for the PLO capitulation, as they were trying to force the Hamas to do now, which Israel demanded. Washington joined the Israelis in promoting an extraordinary misinformation campaign suggesting the PLO collapse was imminent.
Condemning the barbarous invasion three prominent Jewish figures, Nahum Goldman, Philip Klutznick and Pierre Mendes, said Israel would not be able to liquidate the PLO or solve the Palestine question. Describing the US as the real villain they pointed out that the main responsibility for chaos in the Middle East was with the US because of its military and economic aid to Israel. Former US President Jimmy Carter accused Secretary of State Alexander Haig of giving the green light for the Israeli invasion.

The PLO leaders, as pointed out by Robert Fisk, spoke savagely of the moral cowardice of the fellow Arabs, as they are even today, who failed to react throughout the Israeli carnage? The so called radical Arab nations that had broadcast appeals to mobilize the masses on Palestinian's behalf failed to send their men or arms to support the cause for which they had fought four wars with
Israel. The Arab nations with their existing regimes were "as still as the grave", as they are today, and they accepted the Israeli blows only with written - verbal condemnation.
In 1976, Christian militiamen stormed three Palestinian refugee camps in East Beirut. Syrian troops intervened and entered Beirut as part of an Arab Deterrent Force. Instead of offering protection late Syrian President Hafez Al Asad's forces massacred about 30,000 Palestinians during this operation in Tel Al Zaater. In the melee, the Israeli-backed Christian militiamen massacred the entire population of Sabra and Chatila refugee camps despite the written assurances of US envoy Philip Habib and European countries ensuring the protection of the Palestinian civilians. Phalangists involved in the massacre said in Beirut that "pregnant women will give birth to terrorists; the children when they grow up will be terrorists".

Robert Fisk, accompanied by two more journalists Loren Jenkins, an American, and Tveit, a Norwegian, who visited the camp on September 18 morning had this to say of the mass killing;
"All of us wanted to vomit. We were breathing death, inhaling the very putrescence of the bloated. There were women lying in houses with their skirts torn up to their waists and their legs wide apart. Children with their throats cut, rows of young men shot in the back after being lined up at an execution wall. There were babies - blackened babies because they had been slaughtered more than 24 hours earlier and their small bodies were already in a state of decomposition - tossed into rubbish heaps alongside discarded US army ration tins, Israeli army medical equipment and empty bottles of whisky. When we drove down to Chatila we had seen the Israelis on top of the apartments in the Avenue Camille Chamoun but they made no attempt to stop us. Walking across the muddy entrance of Chatila we found that these buildings had all been dynamited to the ground. There were cartridge cases across the main road and Israeli flare canisters still attached to their tiny parachutes. Clouds of flies moved across the rubble, raiding parties with a nose for victory.

Down the lane way there laid a pile of corpses: young men whose arms and legs had been wrapped around each other in the agony of death; all had been shot at point blank range through the cheek, the bullet tearing away a line of flesh up to the ear and entering the brain. Some had vivid crimson or black scars down the left side of their throats. One had been castrated, his trousers torn open and a settlement of flies throbbing over his torn intestines. The eyes of the young men were all open. The youngest was only twelve or thirteen years old and the bodies began to bloat in heat. On the other side of the main road we found the bodies of women and several children. The corpse of the middle aged women lay draped over a pile of rubble. One lay on her back, her dress torn open and the head of a little girl emerging from behind her. Another child lay on the roadway like a discarded doll, her white dress stained with mud and dust. She could not have been more than three years old and her head been blown away by a bullet fired into her brain. One of the women also had a tiny baby to her body and the bullet that had passed through her breast had killed the baby too. Someone had slit open the woman's stomach, cutting sideways and then upwards, perhaps trying to kill her unborn child. Her eyes were wide open, her dark face frozen in horror.

They saw a young woman lying on her back as if she was sunbathing in the heat and the blood running from her back was still wet. The Israeli backed murderers who raped and knifed the woman have just left. Between September 16 and 18 more than 2,000 men, women, children and the aged were massacred in Sabra and Chatila. While the slaughter was going on inside the camp, as quoted by Robert Fisk, outside the entrance to Chatila on Friday at 4 pm James Pringle of Newsweek asked militiamen of Haddad's forces what was going on inside the camp. The gunman replied simply and in English "We are slaughtering." Pringle first thought it was a joke only to realise the horror within hours.

As confirmed later the massacre was committed by the Christian allies ­ uniformed, armed, trained, paid and fed by Zionists Jews as their own creatures. Some wearing Phalangist insignia and others dressed in the uniform of Haddad's militia they were, about thirty, brought in at number one runway at Beirut airport, 24 hours before the massacre, on Thursday September 16, by the Israeli air force Hercules transport aircraft. The Israelis under Ariel Sharon, as admitted later, who controlled the camps, let the killers inside who began to knife and cut the throats of women and children in Chatila and later started sniping with rifles at anyone who moved out of doors. But the real massacre began with mass killings on 17 September Friday afternoon watched from the nearby stadium by the Israelis and Ariel Sharon. Most of those murdered were secretly and hurriedly buried in mass graves beneath the golf course between Chatila and the airport with bulldozers brought well in time for the purpose to cover up the crime. The other bodies found in Chatila were buried near the entrance to the camp amidst great grief and nauseating stench.

Shocked by the crime many countries asked how the Jews who have suffered so terribly under Hitler could be so heartless to commit such atrocities. Although Israel was responsible for the slaughter as an occupier Menachem Begin whose government was accused of "blood libel", living up to his old reputation and terrorist qualities, announced, "No one will preach to us moral values or respect for human life, on whose basis we were educated and will continue to educate generations of fighters in Israel".

Israel's Kahan commission's flawed report on the massacre, condemned Menachem Begin, Ariel Sharon, Eitan, Drori and other Israeli officers, concluded that Ariel Sharon should bear personal responsibility- for this genocide .Sick of Begin's crimes even the Israelis came out on demonstrations demanding his resignation while Professor Yeshayahu Leibotvitz of the Hebrew University, the Editor of Encyclopaedia Hebraica said "the massacre was done by us. The Phalangists are our mercenaries exactly as the Ukrainians and the Croatians and the Slovakians were the mercenaries of Hitler, who organised them as soldiers to do the work for him. Even so we have organised the assassins of Lebanon in order to murder the Palestinians".


As a result of the Israeli invasion, almost 17,825 people were killed between June 4 and September 1982. Ariel Sharon, a man of blood whose history of terror stretches back to the early 1950s when he ran a commando squad which slaughtered 69 Palestinians in the village of Qibbiya and who is known for his lead role in the carnage of Palestinian civilians in villages such as Kafr Kassim, Deir Yassin and other places decades later, was directly and indirectly responsible for this massacre. He did not end his crimes there.

In September 2000, Ariel Sharon triggered off the Palestinian uprising now known as Al Aqsa Intifada, entered Masjid Al Aqsa compound in Jerusalem accompanied by around 2,000 Israeli armed forces provided by Ehud Barak who, as prime minister, slaughtered stone throwing Palestinian men, women and children.

Ehud Barak's suggestion for dealing with the Intifada demonstrators was to "cut off their body parts". By any reasonable reckoning, he was a war criminal, destined only to exile and disgrace. His best friends are mentally deranged people such as Avigdor Liberman who openly advocates setting Beirut on fire, launching missiles at Tehran, destroying the Aswan dam and recapturing villages already handed back to the Palestinians. Despite all his criminal background, Ariel Sharon was elected as prime minister by the people of Israel in an overwhelmingly sad reflection on the part of the Israeli voters. The Western leaders went all out to set up international war crime tribunals to bring to book criminals such as former Yugoslav leader Slobodan Milosevic for Srebrenica massacre and Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet for his infamous "Caravan of Death, but it has been business as usual with Ariel Sharon the man held personally responsible for the largest massacre of civilians in the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

It is a comedy of fact that Ariel Sharon" a villain of peace and architect of man massacre" was accorded a red carpet welcome as a" Paragon of Peace" at the White House by President George Bush-the big bully and a buccaneer of peace.

Receiving Ariel Sharon later at his private ranch Bush offered specially prepared chocolate wrapped in paper designed with the motif of the Israeli flag. Billions of dollars of United States' tax payers' money regularly flow annually to help the Zionist entity besides unstinted political, diplomatic, economic and military backing to continue its crime against neighbouring countries and their people. Tony Blair received Sharon at his office as a respected and dignified leader. Both Bush and his wife Laura prayed for Sharon's early recovery when he suffered a serious stroke. This shocking behaviour of both Bush and Blair demonstrated to the world the brutal control the Jews exercise over the Anglo- American political establishment and political leaders, especially Bush and Blair who shamelessly claimed that they were fighting a war against global terror.

Sharon was given a free hand by Western leaders to kill Palestinians at will on a daily basis, destroy Palestinian homes, evict Palestinians from their lands and build thousands of homes for Jews. When the Zionists continue to kill innocent Arabs and shed their blood, the leaders in the West turned a blind eye. But they were outraged when a Palestinian killed a Jew who was occupying his house and land. Almost all Western leaders screamed and condemned such executions as acts of terror and describe Palestinians as terrorists. No Western leader has ever described Jewish crime and bloodshed in the Middle East as a form of terrorism.

In the midst , in a spotless democratic election held in January 2006 the Palestinians elected with overwhelming majority Hamas, known for their commitment to the Palestinian cause and pursuit of peace with dignity. This election was held under the supervision of former US President Jimmy Carter who described it as free and fair,
This budding democracy in Gaza alarmed Israel, the US and their European and Arab collaborators who wanted Hamas crushed at any cost. Arabs dictators were alarmed that their own people may demand democracy. Israel introduced inhuman measures to collectively punish the Palestinians for electing Hamas. Israel, backed by US and Europe, stopped all donations and cut off the flow of all money to starve Palestine into submission. The Arab regimes too joined this financial blockade knowing very well the misery they were causing to the Palestinians who needed this money to keep body and soul together.

The task of overthrowing the Hamas government was entrusted to Mahmoud Abbas who was bribed, armed and even given arms training by the US through Egypt proving to the world that the US claim to promote democracy is a farce.

Israeli peace activist Uri Avnery said "the message of Jews, the US and Europe to Palestinian is that you will reach the brink of hunger, and even beyond, if you do not surrender. You must remove the Hamas government and elect candidates approved by Israel and the US. You must be satisfied with a Palestinian state consisting of several enclaves, each of which will be utterly dependent on the tender mercies of Israel'.
In the midst of this gloom and while the world was busy watching the 2006 World Cup Football Championships, Israel's latest Fuhrer Olmert turned Gaza into a yet another slaughter house aimed at crushing Hamas and the flourishing democracy there. As usual, the Western media failed to highlight the Palestinian sufferings and there was deafening international silence.

As expected, the US gave a free hand while spineless Europe called for restraint. India, once the champion of Palestine, virtually abandoned the Palestinians and embraced Israel and established a Delhi-Tel Aviv-Washington axis. The Arab leaders who counted on Indian support watched as helpless spectators. It was business as usual for China with Israel while the UN Secretary General Kofi Annan expressed his concern at the excessive use of force by Israel and the need to preserve Palestinian institutions and infrastructure.

Unable to bear the suffering, Hamas demolished the towering iron and concrete border wall that Israel erected since 2003 and broke open the Rafah border allowing hundreds of thousands to burst out and shop for desperately needed supplies in Egyptian border towns. In this unbelievable movement of joy and freedom they traveled by
car, truck on the foot and on donkey cart and the highway was jammed with packed taxis and pick-up trucks whose beds were filled beyond capacity and racing from Egyptian Rafah to al-Arish. Some journalists have called it a huge "jail break" and Gazans felt a deep exhale of relief joy — both rare commodities in this forsaken land.

Israel continued to tighten its economic blockade to starve Palestinians and force them to rise against Hamas. The situation deteriorated to such an extend that on 9 December 2008 Dr. Richard Falk, UN Special Rapporteur on the Situation of Human Rights in the Palestinians Territories, forcefully insisted on the need to protect civilian Palestinian population from being collectively punished by Israeli policies that amount to a Crime Against Humanity.

The UNHRC harshly reprimanded Israel for its policies and called for an end to their "cruel, inhuman and degrading" punishments. Falk insisted the UN International Criminal Court investigate into Israel's atrocious crimes and those Israeli civilian leaders and military commanders responsible be indicted and prosecuted for violations of international criminal law."

As a result Richard Falk who was on his way to the Palestinian occupied territories to carry out his officially mandated functions was detained at Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv where he was forced to spend 20 hours in a small room before being put on a plane bound for Los Angeles. Falk's mobile phone was confiscated to prevent him from contacting other officials of the United Nations before his deportation.

The detention of Richard Falk meant a clear violation of UN immunities, which protect UN envoys and their activities. Falk had been invited by the Palestinian Authority to visit the occupied territories to check the numerous and continued human rights violations by Israeli authorities. The civilized world and its institutions cannot continue to turn a blind eye while Israel commits all kinds of awful crimes against the Palestinian people. Many politicians in the West have been taking a cowardly approach on Israeli atrocities due to their fear of the Zionist lobbies in their respective countries.

Even in the face of Dr. Falk's and the UNHRC's findings and conclusions Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the other Arab regimes and the feckless Arab League, all remained silent .

The situation continued to deteriorate when Israel intensified its blockade and Egypt once again closing the Rafah border crossing. Condemning the terrible conditions of Palestinians former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, Mary Robinson, told the BBC during the first week of November 2008 that it was "almost unbelievable" that the world did not care about what she called "a shocking violation of so many human rights. Their whole civilization has been destroyed, I'm not exaggerating .It's almost unbelievable that the world doesn't care while this is happening."
It was under these circumstances, using US supplied latest bunker buster missiles,F-16 warplanes and Apache helicopter gunships, Israel, in the latest of its war crimes against Palestinians on 27 December 2008 dropped around 100 tons of bombs on1.5 million defenseless and starving Palestinian population killing mercilessly 220 men, women, children and the aged besides wounding hundreds.This ruthless and senseless carnage continued unabatedly at the time of concluding this document on 9 January 2008 when the death toll chalked up to 760.

Television footages of scattered dead bodies of innocent little babies, beautiful small children , teenagers, brothers, sisters, parents and the aged ,some lying in a pile ,some being carried away by distraught rescuers and the wounded writhing in pain and reciting verses from the Quran. These pathetic sights melted the hearts of people all over the world- irrespective of religion, language, nationality and colour.

But, they failed to kindle the conscience of the ruling elites in the West and the Middle East as well, because they were party to this crime that was marketed well in advance by Israel Foreign Minister Tizipi Livni ­ a woman who justified this massacre. Israeli justification for this genocide is that Hamas firing rockets into southern Israel which in fact was the land of Palestinians grabbed by the Zionist Jews. However, these rockets are nothing more than slingshots against Israel's military might and the Palestinians use them out of sheer desperation to highlight their just grievances.

As expected and as usual the most detested and despised US President George Bush, soaked in the blood of almost two million Iraqis, Afghans, Palestinians, Somalis and other Muslims, blamed Hamas. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown whose affection towards Jews has been too strong to condemn their crimes, was rather silent .After all it was British treachery and conspiracy that created racist entity of Israel whose crime records during the past three quarter century have been common knowledge.

President elect Barack Obama too failed to speak out despite growing pressure sending his own message-"Silence Speaks of Complicity". After all, he must be grateful to the Jewish lobbies and corporate conglomerates that brought him to power. A British columnist pointed out "Britain's Prime Minister Brown and his predecessor, now peace envoy Blair, both self-confessed Zionists, have given their undying support to a terrorist state (Israel) and steered Britain's foreign policy on a course that has earned the opprobrium of civilized people. Our Foreign Office went so far as to say they were "deeply concerned" then spouted the mantra: The only way to achieve a lasting peace is through peaceful means".Reiterating this, another columnist pointed out that this killing spree could not have happened without the tacit approval of America, Britain and the EU. The political pea-brains that direct the pro-Israel western alliance were partying, gorging themselves on Christmas fare or binge-shopping while this massacre of hungry women and children and their despairing men folk in Gaza was being planned and executed.

It has become clear on the fourth day that the Jewish carnage was planned executed by Israel in close coordination with Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the PA. According to subsequent reports they were backed by neo con fascist Bush and Cheney in their drive to cause problems to the incoming President Barrack Obama.Some reports disclosed that, though the PA President Mahmoud Abbas slammed this as "barbaric" and "unnecessary "for months he and his top representatives have waged a quiet but intensive campaign requesting Israel to target Hamas in Gaza just before his term in office is scheduled to expire on Jan. 9.

Hamas leaders have repeatedly warned that they will not recognize Abbas after January ninth. Instead, they will launch a major campaign to delegitimize the PA president and install their own figures to lead the Palestinian government. Abbas,
collaborator with the Zionists, expected a large-scale Israeli military campaign in Gaza to distract Hamas from undermining his rule. He has been fully backed by Israel, Egypt's Hosni Mubarak,
Abdullah of Saudi Arabia and Jordan's Abdullah.
Hamas accused the Palestinian Authority of planning to return to Gaza Strip with the help of Israel and was coordinating his moves with the Egyptians and the Saudis. A report by Palestine Information Center stated that Mahmoud Abbas has ordered his officials in Ramallah to set up an "emergency room" comprised of commanders of the PA security forces and the interior minister, to prepare for reassuming office ­perhaps over the blood, flesh, dead bodies and the sufferings of Palestinians and destroyed infrastructure of Gaza.

Fawzi Barhoum, Hamas representative, disclosed that members of the cell were
told to gather information about Hamas leaders' secret hideouts and pass them on to Israel obviously to kill them. He said number of retired Fatah officers sought permission from Abbas to defend Gaza. However Abbas did not respond. This is the lowest depth to which Mahmoud Abbas and his Palestine Authority that served the Israelis more than the Palestinians, has descended.

In fact after months of persecution of Hamas in the west Bank, PA security forces, in cooperation with Israeli forces, launched the biggest ever crackdown in late October 2008, swept through villages, town and refugee camps , arrested Hamas men on the basis of a list provided Shin Beit ­Israel's domestic intelligence, subjected them to severe beatings and ridiculed them for their Islamic life and practices. Their target was to destroy Hamas' political, economic, social, educational and cultural infrastructure.

During a scandalous meeting between Israelis and the PA Security Chiefs in Beit El , near Ramallah, Palestinian General Diab al Ali, known as Abu Fatah, reportedly told the Israelis that " we are allies, not enemies. We have a common enemy, it is Hamas". When the details were published even sources within Fatah called him a traitor and demanded that his sacking.

Meanwhile London-based daily al-Quds al-Arabi reported on Sunday 28 that Egypt collaborated with Israel in this massacre to deal a blow to Hamas. Egyptian Intelligence Minister Omar Suleiman deceived Hamas into believing that Israel would not launch an attack on the Gaza Strip in the near future.

Citing sources close to former Palestinian Foreign Minister Mahmoud al-Zahar, Al Quds reported, "Egypt told Hamas on Friday evening that Israel had agreed to begin talks on a ceasefire and would not attack Gaza before these talks ended. Egypt's assurance persuaded Hamas not to evacuate its security compounds in accordance with routine procedures in place after any threats by Israel. Suleiman also convinced a number of Arab leaders that Israel was intending to launch only limited operations into the Gaza Strip to mount pressure on Hamas ahead of signing a new ceasefire agreement".

In a heartless move Hosni Mubraka declared that he would keep the Rafah crossings with Gaza closed until Mahmud Abbas regains authority over the territory. Mubarak came in for strong criticism from the Arab and Muslim world for not fully opening its border with Gaza to enable Palestinians to purchase their essential items including food and medicine. However, George Bush thanked Hosni Mubarak for his role in facilitating the latest Israeli slaughter of innocent Palestinians. This was the shameful role of Hosni Mubarak, more a Zionist stooge than an Arab leader, who has become a source of humiliation to the Arabs and Muslims in general and the Egyptians in particular.


Two days before the carnage Mubarak held talks with Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni triggering off charges of collusion that led to attacks on Egyptian diplomatic missions both in Beirut and the Yemeni port city of Aden.

Meanwhile it is common knowledge that Israel also had the blessings of Saudis whose long secret links with the Zionists have now come to open with their Islamic mask falling. Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan have been puppets of Americans and the Zionists who rule America and one should not forget that these countries were hand in glove with the Zionists, America and Europe in all their designs and destructions against the Arabs and Muslims.

In one of the most humiliating decisions in the history of Islam ,Saudis rolled red carpet to receive George Bush, number one enemy of Islam, Muslims and humanity, though he should not have been allowed to step into the soil chosen by Almighty Allah to raise our beloved Prophet Muhammed ( Pbuh) and reveal the final message of Islam for the salvation of human beings. Once Hosni Mubarak and Saudi Abdullah were bought over the entire, Middle East was neutralized, enabling Israelis to kill the Palestinians at will. The result was the deafening Arab silence.
Yet the sights of death and destruction struck close to the hearts of brutally oppressed Egyptians who accused Mubarak's regime of taking a spectator's position while the blood of the Palestinians continues to be shed in the Gaza Strip. They asserted, "Arab governments are complicit in what happens to the Palestinians. These governments assisted Israel tighten its grip on the dispossessed Palestinians and kill them."

"Mubarak and Tzipi Livni have agreed on the genocide of the Palestinian people," read one banner. "Mubarak is an accomplice in attacks against the Palestinian people," read another.

As pointed out by the World Socialist sources the hypocritical and lying reports of the pro Jewish Western media, which shamelessly described Israel's aerial blitz against apartment blocks, police stations, universities, mosques and office buildings as an act of "self defense," while equating the occupied with the occupiers and ineffectual homemade rockets with US-supplied F-16s, Hellfire missiles and "smart bombs. No Arab country has condemned this dastardly Jewish crime against Palestinians .Eleven days later, the Arab foreign ministers met with great reluctance, more as a public relations exercise, on Wednesday 31. Knowing the Arab dictators well, the expectations were extremely low when 22 Arab countries met .In fact the Arab populace knew well that it was unlikely that the league would agree to any concrete measure despite widespread protests across the Arab world.
As expected, the Arab League meeting decided to refer the matter to United Nations knowing very well that already a related UN Security Council Resolution was blocked by the US on Sunday 28. The US Security Council only managed to issue a 'non-binding' statement that called on Israel to voluntarily end all its military activities in the besieged region. One should not forget that US has so far vetoed over 40 anti-Israeli resolutions sought by the council since 1972. Since 2004, Washington has prevented the adoption of four other resolutions that called for Tel Aviv to halt its operations in the Gaza Strip.

Meanwhile reports also started to emerge on numerous websites that Saudi Arabia and Egypt tried to delay the so-called Arab summit to provide Israel with sufficient time to destroy Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal has reportedly put pressure on Gulf Cooperation Council countries to postpone the summit while the Saudi state-run news agency had earlier quoted Saud al-Faisal as saying that the GCC had not made a decision on a call for an emergency meeting on Gaza.

Meanwhile there emerged reports that Abdulla of Saudi Arabia has reportedly told President George Bush during a telephone conversation that he would not ask Israel to stop bombing Palestinians in Gaza.

In a sheer traditional display of Saudi hypocrisy, Abdullah called on Palestinian factions to unite against their common enemy when he received a delegation from the International Union for Muslim Scholars, IUMS, led by Sheikh Yousuf Al-Qaradawi. The question is who the enemy is when there were reports of Saudi collaboration in the Israeli slaughter of Palestinians in Gaza. As usual, Al- Qaradawi praised Abdullah for his tremendous support for Islamic causes and for endeavoring to unite Muslim ranks. Perhaps al- Qaradawi was not aware that the Abdulla was hand in glove with Israel in slaughtering the Palestinians.

The immediate question is to save the Palestinians before thinking of unity.The need of the hour was for immediate concrete measures to stop the Israeli genocide. Instead displaying sheer hypocrisy and treachery at the opening of the Cairo meeting, Amr Moussa, General Secretary of the Arab League, called for an immediate meeting of rival Palestinian factions as a diversionary ploy.

Responding, the Iranian President Ahmadinejad warned that setting up committees and making speeches would not be an adequate response to the offensive that has killed nearly 400 Palestinians.


"If the Arab League does not want to do anything today, when does it want to act? Aren't these oppressed Palestinians Arabs? So, when should the capacity of the Arab League be used? The Arab League should act quickly," said Ahmadinejad who also criticized the United Nations' failure to rise up to its responsibility and save the Palestinians.

These are the crime records of Zionist Jews with whom the Arab rulers were competing to establish good relations. What a shame?
The Arab rulers have become collaborators with Israel to slaughter their own people to help implement Zionist Jewish evil designs on the Middle East.
Sixty years later today Israel has emerged as the only lawless racist entity of its kind, living up to its illegitimate birth, threatening not only the Middle East, but also the entire world. There is one thing common to all Zionist leaders- from Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir, Shimon Peres, Benjamin Netanyahu and Yitzhak Rabin to Olmert, Ehud Bark and Tzipi Livini - they are all soaked in Palestinian blood and even the entire perfume industry in the world will not be able to purify them of their sins.
War crimes or human rights violations committed by the major powers or their allies in particular are always treated with impunity, not necessarily according to different yardsticks and standards and go unpunished. The prospects are certainly not encouraging in the case of Israel, which has long been allowed by its Western sponsors to violate a string of UN Security Council resolutions, while other states in the region are subjected to lethal sanctions, and bombing attacks for their transgressions.

The state of Israel is a unique in the sense this is the only case in known history where:

· Sons of the soil, Palestinians, who lived there for more than 4,000 years, were killed and kicked out at gunpoint to languish as refugees in abject poverty to accommodate Jews who hade not even set eyes on this land.

· Jews from any part of the world could settle down in the occupied Palestinian lands, only because they are Jews, whereas the Palestinians, driven out of their homes and still holding the keys to their houses and title deeds for the lands were not permitted to return.

· The United Nations violated its very charter by recognizing a state for these migrant Jews while depriving the sons of the soil, the Palestinians, a home and state on their own lands from where they were driven out.

· History of Zionism has become nothing but a history of crimes, conspiracies, bloodshed, murders, massacres and lawlessness.

· Israel - The only entity in known history that repeatedly elects mass murderers and war criminals as prime ministers.

· The only entity that has caused unprecedented damage to the image of righteous Jews.

· The only entity where a Rabbi, Jewish priest, supposed to follow in the footsteps of the Prophet Moses and occupying Palestinian land could proudly say that the lives of one million Palestinians are not worth a fingernail of a Jew and gets away with it.


Western leaders dare not utter a word against the Zionists and their crimes, as they are well aware of the disastrous consequences. The international Jewry will react promptly and ruthlessly, bring out their skeletons from the cupboards, disgrace and finish them off once and for all. Just to cite two cases were the plight of former UN Secretary General Kurt Waldhiem who later became Austrian Chancellor and failed to please the Zionists and the former US President Bill Clinton, who was disgraced by the scandalous sex liaison with Monica Lewinsky, when he tried to negotiate peace between Israel and Palestinians was not to their liking.

The situation is such that the leaders of the West and even the Middle East simply need to listen to the dictates of international Jewry which brutally controls the economy, finance, industry, media, entertainment and thereby the politics, political establishments and politicians and rule as the invisible force behind the throne in the entire West and thus the world. The philosophy is "toe the line, turn a blind eye to their crimes to survive and thrive. Or else stand up to Jewish crimes, face their wrath, suffer in disgrace and ruin your life".
Sixty years of Zionist Jews' crime records have proved beyond doubt that they are not normal human beings with normal human feelings and respect to the feelings of others. Instead they have become heartless and merciless people hell bent on, usurping others basic rights, grabbing others lands and harming others under various pretexts and that too in the most brutal manner which may even make Hitler shy.
One should not forget that the Zionism was described United Nations General Assembly Resolution as a "form of racism". There is no place for thousands of years of cherished human values in their philosophy For example, Rabbi Yaacov said that "one million Arabs were not worth a Jewish fingernail. Reiterating this Israeli Prime Minister said in 1988 that "Palestinians would be crushed like grasshoppers... heads smashed against the boulders and walls while Menachem Begin described the Palestinians as "beasts walking on two legs". These are the Jewish leaders accepted by the so-called civilised West.

What is appalling is that even some Arab leaders, ignoring the suffering Palestinians and their legitimate cause, opted to recognise and deal with the Zionists while some developing countries, including giants among them, have conveniently dropped the Palestinians in their rush to embrace and deal with the Zionists!

Now that the whole world including leaders in some Muslim countries too have turned against Muslims where do we Muslims stand and what do we do to save ourselves from future carnages? Ends

TRUTH HAS COME AND FALSEHOOD HAS VANISHED
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Gilad Atzmon - Time to Talk about the Rise of Jewish Crime?

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"I am what you call a matchmaker," Rosenbaum is quoted as saying at a July 13 meeting with the two undercover agents.
"I'm doing this a long time," the complaint says Rosenbaum told the two agents. He then added: "Let me explain to you one thing. It's illegal to buy or sell organs. … So you cannot buy it. What you do is, you're giving a compensation for the time."
As we learn from Liberal Democrat Shadow Home Secretary Chris Huhne that “Britain is setting a shameful new record in anti-Semitic incidents this year,” we also happen to be informed by every press outlet about the massive New Jersey Corruption Sweep: A shocking tale of money-laundering and human organ trading led by a bunch of Rabbis.


Gilad Atzmon - Time to Talk about the Rise of Jewish Crime?
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Well, strike while the iron is hot, so they say. With so much interest in Zionism on this thread, please forgive me for inserting this appeal for Ezra Nawi, from Jewish Voice for Peace:

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/301/t/9462/campaign.jsp?campaign_ KEY=27357

Watch the short video clip, and see how the Israeli authorities and so-called IDF are 'ethnically cleansing' Israel and the Israeli Occupied Territories, and how Ezra Nawi, a brave, principalled Jew, has tried to prevent them bulldozing Beduin houses. This was just the latest of his interventions, and he is coming up for sentence shortly.
Please sign the appeal included in above site.

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outsider wrote:
Well, strike while the iron is hot, so they say. With so much interest in Zionism on this thread, please forgive me for inserting this appeal for Ezra Nawi, from Jewish Voice for Peace:

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/301/t/9462/campaign.jsp?campaign_ KEY=27357


There's nothing to forgive, Paul, and everything to to encourage. We must resist the tendency for some vocal and published 9/11 sceptics to confuse Zionists and Jews.

I've signed it.

There have been some heroic Israelis who have had the guts to stand up to the Zionist orthodoxy. Mordechai Vanunu springs to mind.

As Prole has correctly pointed out on this thread [since the demise of the Neanderthals] there has only been one race among humans: the human race, homo sapiens.

As soon as we get into trying to classify people as of "different races" we get into dangerous speculative territory and tend to lump together as a race, people of one nationality or region [eg: the Indian subcontinent] or, in the case of Jews, a religion. The tendency to call these various groupings "races", which they are not, leads to making generalisations about them. Whether doing this is well-intentioned or not, it is by definition "racism".

Judaism is a religion, not a race. You may convert to Judaism if you so wish, although today Jews tend not to go prosletising and trying to gain converts in the ways that Christians and Muslims do. However, in the past, particularly I believe in the first century AD, Judaism gained a large number of converts in the eastern Mediterranean region.

Later, around 800 AD, came the conversion to Judaism of the Khazar Empire (located in SE Russia, the Caucasus and western Khazakstan). Hungarian-British-Jewish author, Arthur Koestler, wrote a well-argued book entitled "The Thirteenth Tribe" which maintains that most European Jews are descended from the Khazars, Turkic tribes who had converted to Judaism. Unsurprisingly this theory is hotly disputed, particularly by keen Zionists, as it tends to diminish their claim that Jews are justified in taking over Palestine against the wishes and without the agreement of the local population.

It should, however, never be forgotten that the twentieth century Jewish holocaust (no matter how many millions were murdered) is but the tip of the iceberg of centuries of European and Christian persecution of Jews. Even after the brutal suppression of the Bar Kokhba Revolt against the Roman Empire (132–136 ad) Jews were relatively free within the Empire to travel, trade and associate with whom they wished until the Empire coverted to Christianity. It was then that the Christian authorities adopted the absurd and provocative theological dogma that Jews are collectively guilty of "deicide", the crucifiction of Jesus (God). This gave the green light to Christian rulers to put all sorts of restrictions on Jews. There were pogroms (riots against Jews) discriminatory laws, persecutions and mass expulsions from various countries, including Spain and England.

It is small wonder therefore that claiming the right to set up a state in Palestine, powerfully arming it, and declaring it will be defended come what may regardless of Palestinian objections, has wide appeal among world Jewry, whatever the excesses in pursuing this policy. They see it as a question of survival against a dominant culture which has a recurrent tendency to persecute and murder Jews.

Nevertheless, this policy is morally offensive and should be substituted by a negotiated settlement between Israelis and Palestinians. Only through mutual agreement can there be peace, difficult though that is with the remarkable degree of skulduggary over this issue outlined by Tony G above.

BTW I do find the Two Ronnies' sketch very funny. Laughing


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xmasdale wrote:
outsider wrote:
Well, strike while the iron is hot, so they say. With so much interest in Zionism on this thread, please forgive me for inserting this appeal for Ezra Nawi, from Jewish Voice for Peace:

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/301/t/9462/campaign.jsp?campaign_ KEY=27357


There's nothing to forgive, Paul, and everything to to encourage. We must resist the tendency for some vocal and published 9/11 sceptics to confuse Zionists and Jews.

I've signed it.

There have been some heroic Israelis who have had the guts to stand up to the Zionist orthodoxy. Mordechai Vanunu springs to mind.

As Prole has correctly pointed out on this thread [since the demise of the Neanderthals] there has only been one race among humans: the human race, homo sapiens.

As soon as we get into trying to classify people as of "different races" we get into dangerous speculative territory and tend to lump together as a race, people of one nationality or region [eg: the Indian subcontinent] or, in the case of Jews, a religion. The tendency to call these various groupings "races", which they are not, leads to to making generalisations about them. Whether doing this is well-intentioned or not, it is by definition "racism".

Judaism is a religion, not a race. You may convert to Judaism if you so wish, although today Jews tend not to go prosletising and trying to gain converts in the ways that Christians and Muslims do. However, in the past, particularly I believe in the first century AD, Judaism gained a large number of converts in the eastern Mediterranean region.

Later, around 800 AD, came the conversion to Judaism of the Khazar Empire (located in SE Russia, the Caucasus and western Khazakstan). Hungarian-British-Jewish author, Arthur Koestler, wrote a well-argued book entitled "The Thirteenth Tribe" which maintains that most European Jews are descended from the Khazars, Turkic tribes who had converted to Judaism. Unsurprisingly this theory is hotly disputed, particularly by keen Zionists, as it tends to diminish their claim that Jews are justified in taking over Palestine against the wishes and without the agreement of the local population.

It should, however, never be forgotten that the twentieth century Jewish holocaust (no matter how many millions were murdered) is but the tip of the iceberg of centuries of European and Christian persecution of Jews. Even after the brutal suppression of the Bar Kokhba Revolt against the Roman Empire (132–136 ad) Jews were relatively free within the Empire to travel, trade and associate with whom they wished until the Empire coverted to Christianity. It was then that the Christian authorities adopted the absurd and provocative theological dogma that Jews are collectively guilty of "deicide", the crucifiction of Jesus (God). This gave the green light to Christian rulers to put all sorts of restrictions on Jews. There were pogroms (riots against Jews) discriminatory laws, persecutions and mass expulsions from various countries, including Spain and England.

It is small wonder therefore that claiming the right to set up a state in Palestine, powerfully arming it, and declaring it will be defended come what may regardless of Palestinian objections, has wide appeal among world Jewry, whatever the excesses in pursuing this policy. They see it as a question of survival against a dominant culture which has a recurrent tendency to persecute and murder Jews.

Nevertheless, this policy is morally offensive and should be substituted by a negotiated settlement between Israelis and Palestinians. Only through mutual agreement can there be peace, difficult though that is with the remarkably degree of skulduggary over this issue outlined by Tony G above.

BTW I do find the Two Ronnies' sketch very funny. Laughing



They (Those converts to Juadism 8 th century who have never lived in the area called Palestine) were told to leave Spain, England twice, because by clandestine they were doing what they are now doing in Palestine. ie Stealing land and Usary to dictate. Thats without all the engineering of wars ect ect whilst hiding behind other religions. With others, such as the not so Royals going along with it for monetary gain and power.

(edit) Whilst Ruining Christianity in Spain then in Russia then Germany and now in America and the UK. By misrepresenting it just as their counterparts had in times past.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for only positive response so far, Noel. I hope others saw fit to sign, instead of just slagging off 'Zionists' or 'Jews'.

I've just read a very good little book, which I bought at it's launch in Toynbee Hall a few weeks back. It's called 'Israeli Apartheid: a Beginner's Guide' by Ben White and really gives the history of Zionists plans to take over Palestine since 1938.
There was quite a vocal 'hostile' group in the meeting (as well as outside beforehand, giving out 'counter' leaflets, but the police were around, and it didn't degenerate to a slanging match (or worse).
Having read the book, I can see why they were so upset! It really does explode all the Zionist myths of Israel. I heartilly recommend it.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They (Those converts to Juadism 8 th century who have never lived in the area called Palestine) were told to leave Spain, England twice, because by clandestine they were doing what they are now doing in Palestine. ie Stealing land and Usary to dictate. Thats without all the engineering of wars ect ect whilst hiding behind other religions. With others, such as the not so Royals going along with it for monetary gain and power.

(edit) Whilst Ruining Christianity in Spain then in Russia then Germany and now in America and the UK. By misrepresenting it just as their counterparts had in times past.


This would seem to be an attempt to blame Jews for the failings of Christendom. As I read it, it appears to be shrugging off Christian intolerance by attributing it to Jewish influence - surely a classic case of scapegoating.

Interestingly the writer here seems to imply that Spanish Jews would be ignorant of Palestine because their ancestors were converts rather than descendents of Middle Eastern Jews. I think that is a non sequiter for two reasons:

1 People are not necessarily knowledgeable about the places their ancestors came from. Are the English particularly well-informed of the culture or religion of north Germany, whence their Anglo-Saxon ancestors reputedly came? (its religion worhipping the Nordic pantheon of Woedin/Wotan/Odin, Thor, Freya and Tir/Tiw)

2 Of all European Jews those of Spain were arguably the least likely community to be decended form the Khazar conversion, living at the greatest distance from Khazaria. Arthur Koestler, author of The Thirteenth Tribe, maintains they were part of the Sephardic community who spread all around the Mediterranean after being kicked out of Palestine following the Bar Kokhvar Rebellion. He reckoned that it was the northern and eastern European Ashkenazim who were descended from Khazars and even some Khazars were Jews who had migrated to Khazaria from the Middle East.

The main point, however, is that Judaism is a religion and a culture rather than a race. Having Jewish ancestors does not mean you are knowledgeable about or sympathetic to either.

Moreover, the wise everywhere are of one religion: that based on loving kindness, compassion, truth, generosity, open-mindedness, peacefulness and sharing.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"This would seem to be an attempt to blame Jews for the failings of Christendom. As I read it, it appears to be shrugging off Christian intolerance by attributing it to Jewish influence - surely a classic case of scapegoating."



We are all responsible for finding the truth, But yes Zionist (world domination types) have played the most part in obfuscation. (edit) going back more than 2600 years.


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"Interestingly the writer here seems to imply that Spanish Jews would be ignorant of Palestine because their ancestors were converts rather than descendents of Middle Eastern Jews. I think that is a non sequiter for two reasons:"

"1 People are not necessarily knowledgeable about the places their ancestors came from. Are the English particularly well-informed of the culture or religion of north Germany, whence their Anglo-Saxon ancestors reputedly came? (its religion worhipping the Nordic pantheon of Wotan, Odin, Frier and Tiw)"


Again individual people are responsble for finding the truth. Regardless, an honest person would not attempt to frame it like you are by saying Jews when I clearly mean Zionist which is clearly an evil entity.

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"2 Of all European Jews those of Spain were arguably the least likely community to be decended form the Khazar conversion, living at the greatest distance from Khazaria. Arthur Koestler, author of The Thirteenth Tribe, maintains they were part of the Sephardic community who spread all around the Mediterranean after being kicked out of Palestine following the Bar Kokhvar Rebellion. He reckoned that it was the northern and eastern European Ashkenazim who were descended from Khazars and even some Khazars were Jews who had migrated to Khazaria from the Middle East."



The Ashkenazi are Japhites son of Esau twin brother to Jacob the British and decadence Israelites, Americans, Irish, and many more. So Askanazi people like George Bush ect look like saxons because they are also sons of Issac.But not Anglo. (edit) Nor people of or tribes of Jacob/ Israelites.
Many years ago (thousands) some of their counterparts married people of a darker skin which many top Zionists hide behind using the former to obfuscate. What we call Jews today are 96% Ashkenazi. The not so Royal family are genuine Jews (Judah) from Jacob as are the Northern Irish and Scottish predominantly. But more Important is that an Israelite is anyone who does Gods Will regardless of what body they are in.


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"The main point, however, is that Judaism is a religion and a culture rather than a race. Having Jewish ancestors does not mean you are knowledgeable about or sympathetic to either."



Judaism is a religion and a culture but some Zionists as can be clearly seen all around are the most racist of all.


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"Moreover, the wise everywhere are of one religion: that based on loving kindness, compassion, truth, generosity, open-mindedness, peacefulness and sharing."



I agree and will add the wise are those who DO Gods Will, striving to be at one with God.

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"1:12 Loving your enemies does NOT mean allowing them to do evil, or to get away with doing evil; or allowing them to persuade YOU to do evil things; or to stop YOU from doing what God wants YOU to do."
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