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| rodin wrote: | | TonyGosling wrote: | Contrarian is in fact Rodin and I have just asked him to revert to his previous username
He was banned before for racism which he seems utterly bent on perpetuating here.
The Rothschilds say they are Jewish.
Are they?
David Rockefeller is a Baptist, or is he really a clandestine Jew?
Where's the proof?
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What do you make of this? Is this kind of thing pure racism or can it be fair comment on important, even visceral, issues that determine our very destiny......a destiny that seems to serve dark interests that are anything but our own.
from http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/NEWS-11.htm
THE ROCKEFELLER FAMILY
SECRET JEWS!
A book overlooked by most people and published for sale mainly within the Jewish community states that the Rockefellers are Jews of Sephardic descent (meaning Spanish and Portuguese Jews). The book is entitled "The Grandees - America's Sephardic Elite." The author is Stephen Birmingham, who is recognized by the Jewish community as an expert on Jewish history.
The publisher of "The Grandees" is the Jewish owned publishing firm of "Harper and Row" of New York City. Mr. Birmingham also wrote the book "Our Crowd" about the family background of America's wealthiest and most successful Jews. Both books have been hailed by Jewish publications as first class works in the documentation of Jewish history.
In "The Grandees" Stephen Birmingham reveals the existence of a very rare book which was published only for Jews some years ago. The work was published only for Jews some years ago. The work was compiled by the Jewish historian Malcolm H. Stern and entitled "Americans of Jewish Decent." That book weighed 10 pounds and gave the history of 25,000 Jewish individuals in America. It is extremely interesting to note that only 550 copies of the book were printed and each copy was consecutively numbered. The book was delivered to the top Jewish community leaders in America for their personal reference files in dealing with and contacting Jews who are "Marranos" (those Jews who "PRETEND" to be Christians in their community but secretly hold to their Jewish faith and race when among their own kind).
Mr. Birmingham in "The Grandees" reports: "Who would expect to find the Rockefellers in the book." Stern's work traces what he calls the "Nobility of Jewry - the Sephardim who lived in Spain and Portugal as princes of the land." Many centuries ago the Jews flooded into Spain in great numbers and through usury and stealth became vast land owners. The Jews controlled both Spain and Portugal through their monopoly over the finances of the country.
It was in 1492 that King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain expelled the Jews from their country and confiscated their ill-gotten wealth. It was during this period that the Rockefeller family moved to the Turkish Empire which welcomed the Jews at that time, believing them to be a "poor persecuted people."
The grandfather of our former Vice-President Nelson Rockefeller, admitted that his family once moved from Turkey to France. It was from France that they moved to America. John D. Rockefeller, Sr., was a wealthy man even before he took over Standard Oil Co., which made their family one of the richest in the world. No one has ever explained how this family came into such wealth as soon as they arrived in America from France.
There is no known information on how the Rockefellers came into huge amounts of money in France. Some thing they got their money from the Rothschilds and were originally their agents in buying up Christian businesses in America. "Marranos" are Jews who "PRETEND" to convert to Christianity so as to deceive Christians in their business dealings, but secretly continued to practice Judaism in private rituals. For this reason, a Marrano family like the Rockefellers would make the perfect tool for the Rothschilds of France who have for centuries used secret agents to carry on their work.
"The Thunderbolt" was the first publication to bring Vice-President Nelson Rockefeller's Jewish ancestry to public attention. This information finally explains why he has always been able to work so closely with Jewish interests and why his administration as governor of New York was loaded down with Jews from top to bottom. His political campaigns of the past were always directed by Jews and he was always the support of the Jewish community in all of his political races.
Normally the Jews would not support a Christian multi-millionaire for political office because they would be afraid they could not control him after the election. The fact that Jewish community leaders have long known that the Rockefellers were fellow Jews goes a long way in explaining why the organized Jewish community has always supported the Rockefeller's political ambitions. Now we can see why Nelson and David Rockefeller boosted his fellow Jew Henry Kissinger into the Nixon administration and Kissinger in turn has used his position to bring his fellow Jew Rockefeller into power. |
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In "The Grandees" Stephen Birmingham reveals the existence of a very rare book which was published only for Jews some years ago. The work was published only for Jews some years ago. The work was compiled by the Jewish historian Malcolm H. Stern and entitled "Americans of Jewish Decent." That book weighed 10 pounds and gave the history of 25,000 Jewish individuals in America. It is extremely interesting to note that only 550 copies of the book were printed and each copy was consecutively numbered. The book was delivered to the top Jewish community leaders in America for their personal reference files in dealing with and contacting Jews who are "Marranos" (those Jews who "PRETEND" to be Christians in their community but secretly hold to their Jewish faith and race when among their own kind).
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Here, the narrative invites us to fantasise about how the Jews have 'secret' tomes that allow them to identify their hidden agents. The niche area of geneological research (which with the advent of technology is now relatively well facilitated by such crypto-Jewish institutions as the public library) is used by the Jews to contact their 'sleeper cells'.
It is extremely interesting to note that a book so exclusive appears to have been reprinted three times
http://openlibrary.org/a/OL691834A/Malcolm-H.-Stern
and though apparently out of print for some time (how are today's Jewish plotters expected to locate today's marranos? tsk tsk!) and with one copy on Amazon.com for an outrageous $1900, the budget Jew theorist can snap up one bargain copy at $8.50
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_1_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&field -keywords=americans+of+jewish+descent&sprefix=americans+of
Presumably, Amazon will demand proof of Jewish overlordship or marrano status prior to purchase.
Still, it's rather suspicious as to why obscure geneological tomes aren't on the Waterstones bestseller rack.
| Quote: | The publisher of "The Grandees" is the Jewish owned publishing firm of "Harper and Row" of New York City. Mr. Birmingham also wrote the book "Our Crowd" about the family background of America's wealthiest and most successful Jews. Both books have been hailed by Jewish publications as first class works in the documentation of Jewish history.
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This is the notion that if Jews back it it must be true. While Jews simultaneously lie, cheat and steal and are not to be trusted.
It appears the grandees was not exactly hailed as a 'first class book' by Sephardic Jews.
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/grandees-intro.html
What's most interesting about the article is it's core.
1/Marranos continued to practice Judaism because of forced conversion due to persecution. The notion was also a handy way to attack former Jews who got too wealthy or influential. We see the notion adapted to present an 'enemy within', 'secret' Jews walking amongst us in an era where Jews are not subject to state persecution or forced to convert. Rather than hide their Jewishness due to coercion, they do it for no other reason than deceit, to execute their malignant Jewish plots.
2/"Some thing (sic) they got their money from the Rothchilds". To the diligent researcher, that "some think" something is clearly quite conclusive evidence.
3/In Nazi Germany, once you got beyond grandparents, your 'racial purity' wasn't really an issue. A Jewish great-grandparent was no big deal. Even one Jewish grandparent made you a mischling of the second degree and subject to far less restrictions. In the SS, the supposed epitome of 'racial perfection', you were expected to prove your 'racial purity' back to 1800 (1750 for officers). Even then, we know the rules got broken and in fact the majority of SS spouses failed the stringent 'purity test' they too were supposed to meet.
Yet here we are presented (the article neglecting to give any detail) with the notion the Rockerfellers may be related to Jewish families from the seventeenth century (the accuracy of this I don't know). These Jews, we are invited to suppose, kept being Jews. No matter how much they didn't practice Judaism (even when not facing persecution for doing so) and with no consideration of how many gentiles or otherwise married into the family over the next four hundred years. If the descendants of the Rockerfellers were Jews over four hundred years ago, they are still Jews, and that's that. And the Jews have secret books to know them. A nod, a wink. They work together in secret.
Kbo234 is not a racist, bigot or anti-semite. He is simply concerned about the hidden Jew working against us and calls for a definition of Jew more stringent than the Nazis who were clearly rather naive about how well Jews conceal themselves among us in order to execute their egregious plans. When the Jews are exposed and we move against them, he will doubtless call for our treatment of them to be humane. How well do you know your geneology? Could you be a secret Jew? It's best to be ready for when justice against the Jews is finally delivered.
The websites kbo derives his 'information' from are carefully selected for their strictly non-prejudicial nature. We can see that Israelect is a wonderful website bursting with Christian values. For example:
| Quote: | White America:
The American Racial Problem
as Seen in a
Worldwide Perspective
by Earnest Sevier Cox
Revised Edition (1937)
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| Quote: | | If the Negro had proved himself the master of things and the Caucasian had proved himself dependent upon the Negro's progress, we should readily concede superiority to the Negro. But as the history of civilization shows the white man to be the master of things and the colored races merely the beneficiaries of the white man's progress, we cannot deny superiority to the white man. Such conclusion is not a sentimental arrogation of the white man. He who would construct a race sociology will seek the facts of race history from which to induce generalizations. The sentimentalist will ignore the facts. The just man will see, in the white man's age-long domination over things, undeniable implication of the white man's custodianship of creative genius; the negrophilist will ignore the white race as the sole cultural factor in progressive civilization and glibly descant upon the attainments of mankind. The negrophilist will attribute to the human race those achievements that have been attained by a particular sub-species of humanity. The negrophilist has not the vision of the scientist, and cannot have, for he is color blind. |
http://www.israelect.com/ChurchOfTrueIsrael/cox/wsdindex.html
| Quote: | TAKE YOUR CHOICE
Separation or Mongrelization
By Theodore G. Bilbo
DREAM HOUSE PUBLISHING COMPANY
Poplarville, Mississippi, 1947
The incontrovertible truths of this book and its sincere warnings are respectfully inscribed to every white man and woman, regardless of nationality, who is a bona fide citizen of the United States of America. -- THEODORE G. BILBO
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| Quote: | | In the skull of the negro the cranial capacity and the brain itself are much under size. On the average the former will measure thirty-five ounces as against forty-five for the Caucasian skull. In the negro the cranial bones are dense and unusually thick, converting his head into a veritable battering-ram: moreover, the cranial sutures unite very early in life. This checks the development of the brain long before the same takes place in other races, and this fact accounts to some extent for the more or less sudden stunting of the negro intellect shortly after arriving at puberty. |
http://www.israelect.com/ChurchOfTrueIsrael/tyc/tyc_toc.html
And, of course, teh protolcolz, the international Jew... |
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Kbo234 is not a racist, bigot or anti-semite. He is simply concerned about the hidden Jew working against us and calls for a definition of Jew more stringent than the Nazis who were clearly rather naive about how well Jews conceal themselves among us in order to execute their egregious plans. When the Jews are exposed and we move against them, he will doubtless call for our treatment of them to be humane. How well do you know your geneology? Could you be a secret Jew? It's best to be ready for when justice against the Jews is finally delivered.
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There's one sure way of forcing Dogsmilk back to his keyboard.
I have just received a letter from my local MP in response to a protest about the UK's feeble response to Israel's impounding of 'The Spirit Of Humanity' and the arrest and imprisonment of its occupants who were trying to deliver medicine and other supplies to the people of Gaza.
The MP forwarded a photocopied reply from one Ivan Lewis MP, 'Minister responsible for our relations with the Middle East'.
Mr Lewis might sound like an Anglo-Saxon but he isn't. He is Jewish and a proven Zionist. What on earth is such an individual doing representing 'our' interests in the middle east?
We already have a Jewish Foreign Minister. Is that not Zionist representation enough?
I suppose we must get used to it, people.
We live in a Zionist state. Christianity is dead. The 'sacrifice' of the 'holocaust' has replaced the sacrifice of Christ.
And you are right Dogsmilk, I don't like it one little bit. I do not like the fact that the affairs of my country are directed by devotees of Lucifer.
We Christians are not at all organised like your good selves.
.....but please do not suggest that Christians wish to adopt murderous methods against "Jews". This is typical of your lousy insinuations.
Christ strictly forbids such behaviour, unlike the Talmud, which recommends murder of the 'goy' whenever necessary.
Dogsmilk, I do not wish to engage in any further worthless exchanges with a 'sayanim' like yourself.
It is typical that merchants of hate and murder attempt to plaster the 'racist', anti-semite' label all over their critics. Bring your fine mind and all your impressive powers of research and analysis to issues of real racism and vicious hatred. Direct your attention against the apartheid state of Israel.
....but that ain't going to happen, is it Dogsmilk?
You have no more interest in doing that than in who is responsible for the murder of 3000 innocents on 9/11. |
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Department of Modern Bigotry
Practical Jew Theory (BA)
Guest seminar: Ray Cyst, professor of Joooological Research
Eustace Mullins building, after lunch session...
Welcome back. Now before lunch I mentioned about how you're going off on placement next term. You'll all be assigned an internet forum on which you'll be required to peddle Jew theory without getting banned - which will constitute a fail - but you'll also lose marks for:
Reason
Critical thinking
Sanity
Not attacking Jews at every available opportunity
So, as I'm sure you can imagine, it's a fine line you'll be treading. So now we're going to consider a brief, 'live' case study that outlines some of the fundamentals. If I can just get the powerpoint working...ah yes...you see three posts...let's break it down...
1/The opening gambit is good. You'll find lots of mad articles online you can use and here we see one that takes the assertion that the Rockerfellers may be related to Jews from the seventeenth century and turns this incredibly banal assertion into our standard Jew theory. Choosing something that doesn't mean anything if true and making out it's an enormously significant corroboration of the inherent evil of the Jew is just what we're looking for.
2/This is immediately spotted and broken down somewhat. Additionally we note the poster has chosen a racist website to cite the article from. Now you will find that many of your sources will be generally racist and deviate from your specialism in Jews. Obviously that's fine, but unfortunately liberals, pinkos and the like may attempt to seize on that and regrettably many people online still don't find racism too palatable. Given that many Jew sites aim to pull in the darkies and Mohammedems as a tactical alliance and given - like most articles you'll find - this one is posted on a multitude of websites we see our first error - by showing you read and cite overtly racist websites, you're giving yourself away somewhat. Our poster should really have chosen a 'Jews only' site.
3/The response. Good moves overall.
Let's start with the most important, the masterstroke if you will:
Ignore everything said and start going on about Israel.
I can't stress this enough. This is textbook stuff.
The actions of the state of Israel are pretty hard to defend and any attempts at contextualisation - e.g. pointing out that Israeli citizens are as much victims of the situation they were born into, easily led into backing their state by being confronted with bombings and rocket attacks etc can be countered by accusations of tacitly supporting Zionism. At any rate, since most pinko liberal anti-racists are unlikely to defend Israel it's a wonderful argument for any situation. For example:
"But there is simply no evidence the Jews engineered swine flu to cull the goyim, Jews catch flu as much as anyone and it's no worse than regular flu anyway"
"Oh right. So you approve of the IDF shooting Palestinian children then? You monster."
Remember - what the Israelis do to the Palestinians is the worst thing that's ever happened in the world ever and the most important. The notion of 911 as worst thing ever that had to be avenged by invading people or the Holocaust as worst thing ever are ripe to be sneered at, but you must maintain that Israel is the worst evil in history. Genocide in Africa, death squads in central America, repression in Asia are not your concern. Blacks, spics and gooks are irrelevant. Though anything America specifically is up to can be mentioned as America is run by Jews so everything America does is their fault. And Britain. Though Jew connections can be more tenuous in many parts of the world, so try to stick to WOT stuff as that's ZOG controlled.
This is bolstered by mentioning the Holocaust at every available opportunity (to argue that the Jews mention the Holocaust at every available opportunity. Remember it's a course requirement to spout Holocaust denial/Jews go on about the Holocaust too much whenever you can, irrespective of the nature of the forum, while claiming Jews are obsessed with the Holocaust and won't shut up about it ). The point here is that what the Israelis do now is worse than any Holocaust which didn't happen anyway because the Jews made it up.
In summary, ignoring anything the other person says and banging on about Israel instead may look very cretinous but it's actually quite puposeful.
After this winning move, it's still worth focusing on some other tactics;
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Note - no matter how much you are obsessed with Jews, someone who doesn't like bigotry and challenges you is always at fault for responding. No matter how irregularly they post, it is their obsession not yours.
| Quote: | Mr Lewis might sound like an Anglo-Saxon but he isn't. He is Jewish and a proven Zionist. What on earth is such an individual doing representing 'our' interests in the middle east?
We already have a Jewish Foreign Minister. Is that not Zionist representation enough?
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Marvellous. MP doesn't sound Jewish but he is! See? They hide!
Minister of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs becomes specifically about the Middle East. Good stuff.
He's nakedly pro-Israel. The fact he's Jewish makes that monstrous and part of a secret agenda as opposed to politicians generally backing all kinds of rum states and being frequently pro-Israel. Remember! Only Israel matters when it comes to abroad!.
| Quote: | And you are right Dogsmilk, I don't like it one little bit. I do not like the fact that the affairs of my country are directed by devotees of Lucifer.
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This is basically arguing Jews/Zionists are satanists. This is blatant bigotry in defiance of all reason and thus to be applauded, but is perhaps too bold a move. For advanced bigots only who are confident they can pull off being so deranged in public.
| Quote: | | ...but please do not suggest that Christians wish to adopt murderous methods against "Jews". This is typical of your lousy insinuations. |
Very nifty evasion. Well done that man. As a Jew theorist, you may well be confronted with the logical question as to what you want done about the Jews. Vague comments about 'bringing the criminals to justice' may work, but remember you've been consistently arguing that the Talmud is evil, Jews manipulate themselves into power etc, so at a bare minimum the only really feasible solution to the Jew is to identify them and stop them holding positions of power, wealth or influence or something. Naming your exact solution to the Jewish problem is - unless you're spectacularly creative - going to entail overt bigotry that entails fully showing your hand. So a fudge like this is to be applauded.
| Quote: | | Christ strictly forbids such behaviour, unlike the Talmud, which recommends murder of the 'goy' whenever necessary. |
You'll have the luxury of a veritable multitude of crank sites that'll quote mine the Talmud for you. Obviously you'll neither know nor care how Jews actually live or the intricacies of how Jewish scholarship has interpreted their Holy books over the centuries. But this is esoteric stuff and few people have the time and energy for theological meanderings. Remember - quote mining the Koran has worked well for Nick Griffin for years. Just be careful people don't start leafing through the Bible, finding crazy stuff and claiming all Christians must therefore follow it to the letter.
| Quote: | | It is typical that merchants of hate and murder attempt to plaster the 'racist', anti-semite' label all over their critics |
Good point. No matter how racist or anti-semitic you are, the terms are smear terms.
| Quote: | | Bring your fine mind and all your impressive powers of research and analysis to issues of real racism and vicious hatred |
Excellent. Superb. Whenever you've been made to look a bit idiotic by someone spending about five minutes on google looking at something you've blindly posted, chuck Israel back in their face as outlined above.
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| Quote: | Dogsmilk, I do not wish to engage in any further worthless exchanges with a 'sayanim' like yourself.
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Good but risky. Assuming everyone who doesn't despise Jews is a Jew is standard practice. And claiming they're deliberately there to attack the profound truths you meticulously unearthed by clicking links and typing words into google is also textbook. But be careful! The poster here is a middle-aged schoolteacher not a thirteen-year-old or even Killtown.
The idea that a middle aged schoolteacher seriously believes that an irregular poster on a forum he posts at is working for MOSSAD to undermine the things he pastes from websites really does make all but the most committed Jew theorist think of them as psychologically about on a par as a man with urine stained trousers hanging round a bus stop quaffing meths and screaming at everyone "I'm the king of Neptune! THE KING OF NEPTUUUUUUUNE!!!!!!!!!". These grandiose delusions that 'agents' are specifically tasked to counter them are not uncommon with people on forums, but nevertheless it can make you look a bit doolally, particularly to the person you accuse who finds it partially funny in a tragi-comic way and partly rather disturbing you're allowed to work with children.
Use with caution.
| Quote: | | You have no more interest in doing that than in who is responsible for the murder of 3000 innocents on 9/11. |
Remember - if the person doesn't blandly say "911 was an inside job" at regular, regulation intervals they clearly don't care one jot for any of the dead.
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Here's a tip - If you're going to claim his name is actually Strawinski, it's probably advisable to back this up with something other than a wikipedia article that says his dad was called Walter Arthur Whitaker Straw.
About a minute on google reveals he has a single Jewish great-grandparent (on his mother's father's side) which wouldn't have been good enough for the Nazis but will definitely be good enough for kbo.
I assume, given the current context, that's what you're getting at. Because who cares? Say his real surname was Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious - and? |
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Dogsmilk,
You are guilty of every kind of evasion and slither that you project onto others.
This country is not governed by our elected representatives, it is governed by a financial oligarchy who own our elected representatives.
There are spiritual issues for Jews and Christians alike who buy into service of wealth and power for their own sakes.
There are two religions that openly reject Christ and have as their goal the establishment of a one-world government controlled by them selves.
These are Talmudic Judaism and Freemasonry.
These are Luciferian religions.
All decent people should expose and oppose them.....and would (if only they understood).
There are many Jews who understand the importance of this issue and have plenty to say about it.
Jews, like western Christians, are drawn into supporting the agendas of their criminal elites.
It seems to me, call it racist if you like (and you will), that Jewish culture more successfully achieves this with its people than do others. In fact, I'm only stating the blindingly obvious. Look at the rich and powerful. It is a no-brainer......although, as with the rest of us, only a fraction (albeit a much larger one) of the community are involved.
Please God the numbers of Jews who warn their people of the dire consequences for all humanity, including Jews, of dedication to the Luciferian premise will grow...........and dedicated sayanim, like Dogsmilk, who see evil in every heart but their own will stop throwing their all weight and strength behind a wicked dominion that can only lead us all to disaster.
PS, Dogsmilk......Is it in the interests of your average Briton, do you think, that Milliband and Lewis oversee the UK's Middle East policy? (Let us not imagine they direct it) |
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Dogsmilk
"good enough for the Nazis"
To be safe ? puddingstone ? |
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Someone called Michael Gapes MP was on the Andrew Marr Show this morning discussing our troops' role in Afghanistan.
Gapes is, apparently, the chair of the Commons Foreign Affairs Committee.
He was also Vice-chair of "Labour Friends of Israel".
According to Wikipedia Gapes is "a prominent Zionist and pro-war voice in the party".
Yea, I bet he is.
Would it not be a delightful thing to see someone in the Foreign Office who was not a friend of Israel?......
........and how come Israel gets to pack OUR foreign office with its supporters?
We dare not suggest disproportionate Jewish influence nor any other kind of conspiracy against the British people. |
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You are guilty of every kind of evasion and slither that you project onto others.
This country is not governed by our elected representatives, it is governed by a financial oligarchy who own our elected representatives.
There are spiritual issues for Jews and Christians alike who buy into service of wealth and power for their own sakes.
There are two religions that openly reject Christ and have as their goal the establishment of a one-world government controlled by them selves.
These are Talmudic Judaism and Freemasonry.
These are Luciferian religions.
All decent people should expose and oppose them.....and would (if only they understood).
There are many Jews who understand the importance of this issue and have plenty to say about it.
Jews, like western Christians, are drawn into supporting the agendas of their criminal elites.
It seems to me, call it racist if you like (and you will), that Jewish culture more successfully achieves this with its people than do others. In fact, I'm only stating the blindingly obvious. Look at the rich and powerful. It is a no-brainer......although, as with the rest of us, only a fraction (albeit a much larger one) of the community are involved.
Please God the numbers of Jews who warn their people of the dire consequences for all humanity, including Jews, of dedication to the Luciferian premise will grow...........and dedicated sayanim, like Dogsmilk, who see evil in every heart but their own will stop throwing their all weight and strength behind a wicked dominion that can only lead us all to disaster.
PS, Dogsmilk......Is it in the interests of your average Briton, do you think, that Milliband and Lewis oversee the UK's Middle East policy? (Let us not imagine they direct it) |
Yeah, if only I produced the kind of meticulous, address everything replies you do...
I don't know what "Luciferian" is supposed to mean. It's not the middle ages any more.
What does it mean? Do you think you're Gregory Peck in the omen or something?
So how are you going to stop your Luciferians? Do you want to ban freemasonry and the Talmud? What are you going to do with Jews who persist in regarding it as a Holy book? Lock them up?
Or what's your big global solution? No more Talmud or Freemasons and child soldiers in Africa will lay down their arms and start making daisy chains, murder squads in Colombia will stop killing union activists and start campaigning for shorter hours and more pay and the British government will say they're very, very sorry and they'll have the US base closed so all the Diego Garcians can go home?
You invent a simplistic scapegoat bogeyman and can't see beyond Israel, Jews and Masons. Like these right wing nationalists going on about the 'global government' bogeyman like it's not nation states fighting all the wars.*
| Quote: | | Please God the numbers of Jews who warn their people of the dire consequences for all humanity, |
You mean like we're bound to an economic system predicated on eternal economic growth and the ever more rapacious consumption of finite resources? You mean like the 'magic of the marketplace' can leave little brown people in abject poverty and basically slavery so we can have cheap jeans and mobile phones? You mean like multinational corporations that have more wealth than some countries yet solely exist to generate profit and by definition have no actual concern for the humans that created and run them? Or do you mean spooky, Hammer House of Horror 'Luciferians' concocting plots to conquer the world for no reason other than they're evil like what happens in films?
| Quote: | | and dedicated sayanim, like Dogsmilk |
Are you 12? People working for MOSSAD aren't arguing with you on the internet, going through your bins or stealing your underpants from the washing line. Nor are the CIA broadcasting messages at you via radio 4.
Still, I realise it's all tremendously exciting and makes you feel very important and stuff. Maybe you should get hold of one these to wear when you go outside (to throw MOSSAD off the scent) -
You can pretend MOSSAD are following you because of top secret information you read on teh interwebs. You can buy a newspaper, cut two little holes in it and stand around peeping through them as you pretend to read it.
Maybe you should take a photo of someone in the chippy, start a blog and put the pictures up saying they're a MOSSAD agent tracking you?
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Yeah, cos Jacqui Smith or whoever would sort everything out and stuff. One of these c*nts is much the same as another IMO.
| Quote: | | According to Wikipedia Gapes is "a prominent Zionist and pro-war voice in the party". |
Well it doesn't say that on his page...
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Israel doesn't 'pack the foreign office' with anyone, but they have given the Labour Party money. Do you expect Labour to back the Palestinians? And exactly what would they get out of that?
You do realise that the world is a fairly large place and the foreign office doesn't exist simply because of Israel...? Just checking.
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"good enough for the Nazis"
To be safe ? puddingstone ? |
Er yeah, right.
That makes perfect sense and stuff. |
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"good enough for the Nazis"
To be safe ? puddingstone ? |
Er yeah, right.
That makes perfect sense and stuff. |
Correct, too right it makes perfect sense. |
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"Do you want to ban freemasonry and the Talmud?"
Absolutely.
"What are you going to do with Jews who persist in regarding it as a Holy book? Lock them up?"
If any person not just Jews who act's on the corrupt Talmud (laws of men) and breaks any of the real Laws they should be punished accordingly and/or reformed in accordance with the Laws of Moses. |
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| Andrew. wrote: | | Dogsmilk wrote: | | Andrew. wrote: | Dogsmilk
"good enough for the Nazis"
To be safe ? puddingstone ? |
Er yeah, right.
That makes perfect sense and stuff. |
Correct, too right it makes perfect sense. |
To you maybe.
| Quote: | "Do you want to ban freemasonry and the Talmud?"
Absolutely.
"What are you going to do with Jews who persist in regarding it as a Holy book? Lock them up?"
If any person not just Jews who act's on the corrupt Talmud (laws of men) and breaks any of the real Laws they should be punished accordingly and/or reformed in accordance with the Laws of Moses. |
Good luck with your biblical police state there, chief.
Things would be so much better with the likes of you in charge...
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I don't know what "Luciferian" is supposed to mean. It's not the middle ages any more. |
It means 'anti-Christ'. The God of Christ is the creator, the spirit who is Love, Truth, Justice.
According to Christ it is our purpose here on earth to become one with this God by selfless service and love of God and our fellow man.
It is a tough call for sure.
The god of Freemasonry is 'Lucifer' according to the man who wrote its oaths. See "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike. Freemasonry, according to Pike, is about achieving total global hegemony.
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
Christ offered a heavenly kingdom to 'The Jews' and while some accepted it and redefined themselves as Christians, the majority under the influence of the Pharissees ( originators of the Talmudic 'oral tradition') rejected Christ.
The kingdom that the Pharissees (and the Talmud) seek is an earthly kingdom.......a world that is dominated by Jews alone. Global Jewish hegemony (who knows where masonry and Talmudism begin and end). There is no authority in the Talmud outside the Jewish people themselves.
To a Christian this is the same mindset and spirituality that Christ condemned as being 'of Satan'.
Some Jews have openly stated that Lucifer is their God....e.g.
http://the-truth-is-freedom.blogspot.com/2009/07/zionist-hidden-tyrann y.html
So, that's what Luciferian means.......I do not think that this mentality necessarily defines Jews or Freemasons.....but it DOES define their leadership and ordinary Jews and Masons need to be aware of this.........unless the leadership of these cults do not mean a word they commit to their official documents.
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So how are you going to stop your Luciferians? Do you want to ban freemasonry and the Talmud? What are you going to do with Jews who persist in regarding it as a Holy book? Lock them up?
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Surely if people were aware of the agendas of such leadership very few would sign up to the clubs.
People are by and large good and decent......
...but we are OBVIOUSLY EASILY DECEIVED!
For me the beginning of any kind of activism came when I realised, like a knife in my guts, that 9/11 was an 'inside job'.
When Captain William Morgan was ritually murdered by Freemasons for trying to blow the whistle on their evil practices and the crime was exposed, the majority of American Freemasons left the Order in disgust. They had not realised that all those blood-curdling oaths were 'for real'.
So....it is all about information.
Our destiny is driven by wicked, hidden, monied forces. If these were exposed the far greater part of their power to manipulate, deceive, corrupt and destroy would fall away.
But how to expose such things?......9/11, the criminality of the global elite, the spirituality and the lies that empower them.......how to do it when these forces not only control the media but also have implanted taboos against discussing such issues in our sheep-like society....
....and when there are crowds of energetic activists like yourself ready and more-than-willing to leap to the attack whenever a dumb goyim like myself attempts to speak up in defense of what I perceive as my own interests.
Well, it appears that we are entering a phase of massive human suffering.......but people are waking up and after Lucifer (you know Dogsmilk, bad stuff) has had his day and the dust has settled the God of Christ, who is Love, will ultimately triumph.
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You invent a simplistic scapegoat bogeyman and can't see beyond Israel, Jews and Masons. Like these right wing nationalists going on about the 'global government' bogeyman like it's not nation states fighting all the wars.* |
No.
Sin is universal. We have all allowed ourselves to become part of the problem. We in the west have been quite happy to partake of the benefits of the global theft inherent in the rigged financial markets. We have watched and participated in the corruption and done next to nothing.
The Talmud and Freemasonry define themselves. Why should it be an issue if a person merely repeats their own injunctions to their own people?
Nominal Christians might behave worse than anyone, but they cannot justify and empower their wickedness through reference to Christ's teachings. This is an important point.
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Still, I realise it's all tremendously exciting and makes you feel very important and stuff. |
That's just being an *sshole, dogsmilk. I do my little bit just like you do yours.
......and I don't think I'm better than you either, I just think you're wrong.
I imagine that you imagine the world is full of angry self-righteous * that will be more than ready to turn on Jews and blame them for everything if their own world turns to s*it. As a Jew it would be natural to fear this real danger.
However, we are enslaved....horribly so.....and just as lies (like 9/11) enslave, only the truth will set us free. (was it JC who said that? I think so)
The people who hold wealth and power in the west want it all.
It is beyond doubt that within their secret societies they actively worship Lucifer. This cult needs to be identified as an enemy of all mankind because it is.
We are all deceived by these people, Jews and gentiles alike. |
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"Good luck with your biblical police state there, chief.
Things would be so much better with the likes of you in charge..."
If you want, choose one of those Laws of Moses and lets see why you consider it would be like a police state.
Also take time to reflect, if you dont know them or are not trying to learn them, it does reflect on you badly that you should ridicule or misrepresent them, but only from ignorance.
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"To you maybe"
Well lets see you have a perfect opportunity now to expose Nazism (right)or Marxism (left) or is it zionism. And at the same time expose the middle ground of both left and right, which are still corrupt. |
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| Quote: | | According to Wikipedia Gapes is "a prominent Zionist and pro-war voice in the party". |
Well it doesn't say that on his page...
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My mistake.
It's from here...a wikipedia 'lookalike' page.
http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Mike_Gapes |
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Thanks, I'd been wondering what Nico was up to these days 
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The idea that a middle aged schoolteacher seriously believes that an irregular poster on a forum he posts at is working for MOSSAD to undermine the things he pastes from websites really does make all but the most committed Jew theorist think of them as psychologically about on a par as a man with urine stained trousers hanging round a bus stop quaffing meths and screaming at everyone "I'm the king of Neptune! THE KING OF NEPTUUUUUUUNE!!!!!!!!!". These grandiose delusions that 'agents' are specifically tasked to counter them are not uncommon with people on forums, but nevertheless it can make you look a bit doolally, particularly to the person you accuse who finds it partially funny in a tragi-comic way and partly rather disturbing you're allowed to work with children.
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Don't kid yourself and stop fantasising about the 'deluded grandiosity' of your critics (you know I'm not the only one). This is not a personal matter.
Speaking of delusion here's an article you might have missed:
From The Times
July 28, 2006
Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers
WHILE Israel fights Hezbollah with tanks and aircraft, its supporters are campaigning on the internet.
Israel’s Government has thrown its weight behind efforts by supporters to counter what it believes to be negative bias and a tide of pro-Arab propaganda. The Foreign Ministry has ordered trainee diplomats to track websites and chatrooms so that networks of US and European groups with hundreds of thousands of Jewish activists can place supportive messages.
In the past week nearly 5,000 members of the World Union of Jewish Students (WUJS) have downloaded special “megaphone” software that alerts them to anti-Israeli chatrooms or internet polls to enable them to post contrary viewpoints. A student team in Jerusalem combs the web in a host of different languages to flag the sites so that those who have signed up can influence an opinion survey or the course of a debate.
Jonny Cline, of the international student group, said that Jewish students and youth groups with their understanding of the web environment were ideally placed to present another side to the debate.
“We’re saying to these people that if Israel is being bashed, don’t ignore it, change it,” Mr Cline said. “A poll like CNN’s takes just a few seconds to vote in, but if thousands take part the outcome will be changed. What’s vital is that the international face of the conflict is balanced.”
Doron Barkat, 29, in Jerusalem, spends long nights trawling the web to try to swing the debate Israel’s way. “When I see internet polls for or against Israel I send out a mailing list to vote for Israel,” he said. “It can be that after 15 minutes there will be 400 votes for Israel.
“It’s very satisfying. There are also forums where Lebanese and Israelis talk.”
Israel’s Foreign Ministry must avoid direct involvement with the campaign but is in contact with international Jewish and evangelical Christian groups, distributing internet information packs.
Amir Gissin, the Israeli Foreign Ministry’s public relations director, said: “The internet’s become a leading tool for news, shaping the world view of millions. Our problem is the foreign media shows Lebanese suffering, but not Israeli. We’re bypassing that filter by distributing pictures showing how northern Israelis suffer from Katyusha rocket attacks.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article693911. ece
Having just watched tonight's news and seen the distressing scenes of Palestinian families being ejected from their East Jerusalem homes and being replaced by 'religious' Jews..........this internet 'army' will undoubtedly have to crank up their efforts over the next few days.
By the way, what kind of 'religion' do you think these fiends are committed to, dogsmilk?......
.......a Luciferian one??....
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"Remember - quote mining the Koran has worked well for Nick Griffin for years. Just be careful people don't start leafing through the Bible, finding crazy stuff and claiming all Christians must therefore follow it to the letter."
It matters not, about quote mining the genuine Koran, Old Testament or New Testament. There is NOT a bad sentence in it.
Where as the Talmud and Hadith (all of them)(different ones) are just a load of nonesense in every sentence. The Talmud and Hadith (traditions) is not only a reference to a nonesence book but also a reference to the traditions of man of all traditions the world over.
Evil be to him who thinks it when trying to interprit the "Word"
But beware of fake books.
"The COMMANDments; Laws; Statutes; Judgements; Economic Policy; Agricultural Policy and Diet are all written in "plain language" for EVERYONE to understand and Live by, but the Prophecies are written in code."
The Law of the Lord, which was given at Mount Sinai, provides not merely the Ten Commandments, but provision for every department of life. It deals with every aspect of life and order, including economics, property, justice, housing, food, hygiene, agriculture and armed forces. It was designed to bring joy, health, peace and blessing to all or any people who would accept it and abide by it. |
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"but not Israeli. We’re bypassing that filter by distributing pictures showing how northern Israelis suffer from Katyusha rocket attacks"
I wonder what the range of portable Atak Yusef Katyusha rockets are.
So the Jewish people could have at the very least a small no mans land area for nature and be out of range of them, as a simple solution from their caring government. |
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| kbo234 wrote: | t means 'anti-Christ'. The God of Christ is the creator, the spirit who is Love, Truth, Justice.
According to Christ it is our purpose here on earth to become one with this God by selfless service and love of God and our fellow man.
It is a tough call for sure.
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I thought it meant 'light-bringer', but this stuff isn't really my bag. I learned nearly everything I know about the anti-Christ from heavy metal records.
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http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
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Well I read a bit of the link you posted and got as far as this.
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| Quote: | | The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." |
Right, so in 1871 he's supposedly talking about fascism and Nazism like everyone understands what they are before either existed. Or we're supposed to believe not only did he know the Nazis would exist but that the abbreviation 'Nazi' would be used. Oh yeah, I buy that.
| Quote: | Christ offered a heavenly kingdom to 'The Jews' and while some accepted it and redefined themselves as Christians, the majority under the influence of the Pharissees ( originators of the Talmudic 'oral tradition') rejected Christ.
The kingdom that the Pharissees (and the Talmud) seek is an earthly kingdom.......a world that is dominated by Jews alone. Global Jewish hegemony (who knows where masonry and Talmudism begin and end). There is no authority in the Talmud outside the Jewish people themselves.
To a Christian this is the same mindset and spirituality that Christ condemned as being 'of Satan'.
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So many Jews didn't think Jesus was the Messiah. Neither do I. Neither do a lot of people. Get over it.
I don't know where you get the idea the Pharissees wanted to dominate the earth. Admittedly my theology is poor (it's all just fairy tales to me), but I was at least under the impression any Jewish dominance was contingent on God ultimately leading the Jews to glory and defeating all their enemies and stuff after the real Messiah turned up. Or something. If Jews really wanted to dominate the earth, they'd have got the Christian and Islamic passion for converting people.
If Jews like the Talmud that's their business surely? As far as I'm concerned the Bible has no authority because from my perspective it's just a mish-mash of recorded events, many of which broadly speaking happened embellished with the myths the Jews surrounded themselves with, same as other peoples did. I can think of no rational reason why I should believe any of that supernatural stuff any more than I should believe in Zeus or Apollo.
I totally respect Christians, their right to their beliefs and their right to worship, but to me the Bible comes from men and men alone and has no special claim over the Talmud. You're just being arrogant because you think your book (specifically the New Testament) is better, whereas I don't really care about either of them, but appreciate others do and respect their right to do so.
Tell me - do you just open a web page and think to yourself "Crikey - it's on the internet - it must be true!"?
Doing a quick search it appears that this is one of those articles endlessly carried on a predictable array of websites but...that's it.
And you just believe this “Oh yeah, we Jews worship Lucifer” stuff.
Look – why don't you try switching on that part of your brain that manages to be sceptical of the MSM and have a little think about what little indicators there may be that you may be being spectacularly gullible.
What's fascinating is the way you don't like being called a bigot, but will just believe anything that tells you the Jews follow the anti-Christ. Here's some advice; if you ever meet a maverick scientist that asks you to test their time machine, I'd recommend you choose 1095. You'd feel right at home.
Why don't you just get some robes, a big pointy hat and wander the streets brandishing a Bible and shouting “The Jews are foul agents of the dev-il! We must purge Christendom of the Christ killers! I have it on good authority a Jew was witnessed kissing the anus of a black cat and then a Jewess did suckle it from a third nipple, her witch's teat. A certain scroll did bear witness to this on the internet. Come! Let us erect a pyre! These servants of Anti-Christ must turn to the Lord and accept baptism or burn. They control the media and everything you know.”
kbo's dream day when he recites to the masses 'evidence' of the Jew's allegiance to The Evil One
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Yeah and everything will be like this...
I do (sincerely) envy your faith.
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I'm not the one having secret agent fantasies.
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Well I think the world is certainly full of angry, self-righteous people (and I'm one of them) but I find it pretty unlikely people in this country at least would turn on the Jews. If anything, they'll go for the Muslims.
| Quote: | However, we are enslaved....horribly so.....and just as lies (like 9/11) enslave, only the truth will set us free. (was it JC who said that? I think so)
The people who hold wealth and power in the west want it all.
It is beyond doubt that within their secret societies they actively worship Lucifer. This cult needs to be identified as an enemy of all mankind because it is.
We are all deceived by these people, Jews and gentiles alike.
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I'm actually rather sceptical of lies being revealed being a massive engine for social change (not that I think they shouldn't be revealed). I mean, it's basically common knowledge the government lied through their teeth about Iraq - a very serious matter indeed - but people still get up and go to work. It's depressing when you think about it.
Sure people who hold wealth and power want it all - what's new? It's the fact that people are allowed too much wealth and power that is the eternal problem.
And I think Mammon has a far bigger hold than Lucifer.
| Quote: | | Speaking of delusion here's an article you might have missed: |
Seen it.
And the relevance to here is...?
Think about it...
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"Remember - quote mining the Koran has worked well for Nick Griffin for years. Just be careful people don't start leafing through the Bible, finding crazy stuff and claiming all Christians must therefore follow it to the letter."
It matters not, about quote mining the genuine Koran, Old Testament or New Testament. There is NOT a bad sentence in it.
Where as the Talmud and Hadith (all of them)(different ones) are just a load of nonesense in every sentence. The Talmud and Hadith (traditions) is not only a reference to a nonesence book but also a reference to the traditions of man of all traditions the world over.
Evil be to him who thinks it when trying to interprit the "Word"
But beware of fake books.
"The COMMANDments; Laws; Statutes; Judgements; Economic Policy; Agricultural Policy and Diet are all written in "plain language" for EVERYONE to understand and Live by, but the Prophecies are written in code."
The Law of the Lord, which was given at Mount Sinai, provides not merely the Ten Commandments, but provision for every department of life. It deals with every aspect of life and order, including economics, property, justice, housing, food, hygiene, agriculture and armed forces. It was designed to bring joy, health, peace and blessing to all or any people who would accept it and abide by it. |
Yeah? Well what bout that bit in Genesis where Noah gets drunk and naked in his tent and his son happens to wander in and see him in the nip? God is angry with the son - why's it his fault? How was he to know? And why is a universe-creating deity remotely concerned with such a minor incident? And why's it seen fit to include it in the Bible? What's that teaching us?
Why you think some books are 'fake' and others aren't I really don't know. They were all written down by people. Joseph Smith claimed he got all his Mormon stuff from mystery plates that came directly from God. Why don't you include the Book of Mormon? By what criteria does one claim something is directly from God trump another?
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Thanks, I'd been wondering what Nico was up to these days |
He says hi.
He was with a friend. I'm not sure who it was, but he was drinking White Lightening, urinating into a letter box and screaming "New York was on a giant revolving Platter! A GIANT REVOLVING PLATTERRRRRRR!!!!!! The birds! Flying too fast! Flying too fast!"
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Look – why don't you try switching on that part of your brain that manages to be sceptical of the MSM and have a little think about what little indicators there may be that you may be being spectacularly gullible.
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Gullible, I ain't.......and neither are any of the 9/11 Truthers I have come across. The fact that who was responsible for the 9/11 attacks is not an issue of interest to you is significant.
You are interested in counteracting any suggestion of Jewish conspiracy and in no (as far as I can make out) other issue.
Well there is a wicked conspiracy against humanity. Its strength is founded in the fractional reserve banking system (or the 'money scam' as item 7 calls it). This is an age-old conspiracy and the conspirators have created wars and crashed economies to further their interests.
They have also enacted many false-flag attacks against their own peoples in order to furnish them with an excuse to attack their chosen enemies.
We all know that the dominant bankers are Jews and that they have, over the centuries, intermarried with Anglo-Saxon and other European aristocracies and it is obvious that the dominant faction is still intimately connected to the highest levels of banking and corporate control.
Well, it is obvious to some of us anyway.
It is the nature of just being a human being that persons act in accordance with their thinking and ideology, however lacking in integrity that ideology might be.
Therefore, when looking at persons who obviously desire to get total control of the world is it not sensible to look out also for an ideology (or religion) that overtly has this as its aim?
I say it is.
and blimey, there they are....two of them!
Freemasonry and Talmudic Judaism!
What a gullible fellow I am to make such a ridiculous connection.
That Masonic and Zionist/Talmudic Jewish leadership should have adopted wealth and total power as their project makes NO SENSE AT ALL.
I mean, when they state their objectives in their holy books they are ONLY JOKING.
....and anyway, we know such an idea is a load of rubbish because there are hardly any masons or Jews in the upper reaches of governments, nor on the boards of banks and corporations.
Sorry dogsmilk....what gullible little fools we are who would imagine such a thing.
....and, by the way, dogsmilk, I have a fantastic relationship with the students I teach, Jews included.
This is about LEADERSHIP, dogsmilk. THE POWERFUL.
Your leaders and mine.
I want masons removed from any position of influence. They have a covert allegiance to a group that are determined to act against the common good. This is a very serious issue and we are paying the price for not attending to it.
What about Jewish leadership that similarly are opposed to the common good? What have you to say about them dogsmilk?? Do you just deny that the Talmud, within which the 'golden rule' is for Jews alone and people like me are (presumably disposable) 'cattle' reveals an identical conflict of interest in anyone would would represent the interests of British non-Jews? |
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"Remember - quote mining the Koran has worked well for Nick Griffin for years. Just be careful people don't start leafing through the Bible, finding crazy stuff and claiming all Christians must therefore follow it to the letter."
It matters not, about quote mining the genuine Koran, Old Testament or New Testament. There is NOT a bad sentence in it.
Where as the Talmud and Hadith (all of them)(different ones) are just a load of nonesense in every sentence. The Talmud and Hadith (traditions) is not only a reference to a nonesence book but also a reference to the traditions of man of all traditions the world over.
Evil be to him who thinks it when trying to interprit the "Word"
But beware of fake books.
"The COMMANDments; Laws; Statutes; Judgements; Economic Policy; Agricultural Policy and Diet are all written in "plain language" for EVERYONE to understand and Live by, but the Prophecies are written in code."
The Law of the Lord, which was given at Mount Sinai, provides not merely the Ten Commandments, but provision for every department of life. It deals with every aspect of life and order, including economics, property, justice, housing, food, hygiene, agriculture and armed forces. It was designed to bring joy, health, peace and blessing to all or any people who would accept it and abide by it. |
Yeah? Well what bout that bit in Genesis where Noah gets drunk and naked in his tent and his son happens to wander in and see him in the nip? God is angry with the son - why's it his fault? How was he to know? And why is a universe-creating deity remotely concerned with such a minor incident? And why's it seen fit to include it in the Bible? What's that teaching us?
Why you think some books are 'fake' and others aren't I really don't know. They were all written down by people. Joseph Smith claimed he got all his Mormon stuff from mystery plates that came directly from God. Why don't you include the Book of Mormon? By what criteria does one claim something is directly from God trump another? |
All books other than.
2:14 Jesus said: I am not thy Master. Because thou hast drunk, thou hast become drunk from the bubbling spring which I have dug out. And He took him, He withdrew, He spoke three words to him.
2:15 Now when Thomas came to his companions, they asked him: What did Jesus say to thee?
2:16 Thomas said to them: If I tell you one of the words which He said to me, you will take up stones and throw at me; and fire will come from the stones and burn you up.
2:17 Jesus said to them: If you fast (ritually), you will beget sin for yourselves (Matt. 6), and if you pray (in churches), you will be condemned, and if you give alms (to the churches), you will do evil to your spirits. And if you go into any land and wander in the regions, if they receive you, eat what they set before you, heal the sick among them.
2:18 For what goes into your mouth will not defile you, but what comes out of your mouth, that is what will defile you.
3:1 Jesus said: When you see Him who was not born of woman, prostrate yourselves upon your face and adore Him: He is your Father.
1You 2will 3burn (if you remain drunk) (Your Spirit Being the real you which is not human, day of Judgement)
The Way home or face The Fire
http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net/
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"Moderators - can you do something about the hijacking of this thread please? I was wanting to read about the money scam and all I can see is voluminous cr@p about how the elephant in the room isn't there."
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| Quote: | Gullible, I ain't.......and neither are any of the 9/11 Truthers I have come across. The fact that who was responsible for the 9/11 attacks is not an issue of interest to you is significant.
You are interested in counteracting any suggestion of Jewish conspiracy and in no (as far as I can make out) other issue.
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Really? If you think no truthers are gullible, I suggest you clink on this link. And despair.
http://forum.911movement.org/
I've developed an interest in Jewish conspiracy stuff. It fascinates me how Nazi propaganda is revised and updated for a different generation and crowd. So sue me. I post about what I choose to post about. I'm frankly not interested in pleasing you by ensuring I continue to post on other matters I may also think about, particularly when I don't post here very often any more. You think this is 'significant'. Has it filtered into your brain that if I was playing silly buggers in the way you imagine it would be a perfectly straightforward matter for me to spam endless links to truth sites and make stock comments about 911 while shilling for MOSSAD in the way you imagine? That's what makes you so laughable; I reckon any real 'agent' or whatever could run rings round you by deliberately pushing the right buttons on other matters.
This 'more truth than thou', attitude you seem to get a lot these days proper gets on my tits.
Otherwise I initially started writing a proper, point by point reply. But what's the point? You basically ignore my replies and just start repeating yourself or switching on to something else. You seem to have no grasp of the systemic nature of capitalism. Like if you banned Freemasons from doing stuff, do you honestly think their replacements would be intrinsically more moral?
The Jews want to rule the world BECAUSE THE TALMUD TELLS THEM TO! They run banking! Like HSBC, the 6th largest company in the world, isn't generally regarded as Jewish, BUT THEY'LL BE THERE AND I'LL FIND THEM! Japanese multinational directors, Arab Muslim billionaires, white aryan politicians - these weak, feeble, people are just crying out for a brighter, shining world of compassionate business practice, but they can't do it because the Jews and Masons won't let them. Thank God for my heroic efforts on the internet finding this stuff out for them!
See there was this guy, yeah, and this other guy reckons he said Jews WORSHIP LUCIFER! Straight up! It was on the internet and everything. .
Bit weird considering, like, they'd probably have just worshipped some guy called Lucifer from the start - it's not like the rest of the world wasn't worshipping all kinds of weird and wonderful Gods back in them days and were remotely arsed. I mean, it's not like the Carthaginians only pretended to worship Baal Hammon while really worshipping someone else who was against Baal from the context of an offshoot religion they didn't themselves believe in anyway. For some bizarre reason. But there you go. It's still all true. It said. And anyway, this guy totally knew about and was totally into the Jews TAKING OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD, yeah, because all these Jews in politics they all know all about it but they don't say and stuff so no-one knows except a few people who are in no way gullible browsing the internet where it's been exposed.
| Quote: | | ...and, by the way, dogsmilk, I have a fantastic relationship with the students I teach, Jews included. |
Is that before or after you tell them you're a Holocaust denier who thinks Jews are conspiring to dominate the world and worship the anti-Christ?
If any of your Jewish students go on to get a high-flying banking job, become a politician or otherwise become wealthy and powerful, will they suddenly become Jewish conspirators?
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1You 2will 3burn (if you remain drunk) (Your Spirit Being the real you which is not human, day of Judgement) |
I don't respond to threats.
| Quote: | The Way home or face The Fire
People are saying this is the MOST important book on the planet. Is it? You decide.
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Yet somehow it just can't seem to topple Harry Potter in the bestseller lists.
| Quote: | | nfortunately George Lucas has exercised his "Free-will"; ignored me and made Episode 1 - "The Phantom Menace"; with arrogant actors who publicly ridicule the real message and the real fans; which undermines the original theme and Divine Message; contradicts it and is mere fiction (lies), telepathically fed to him by the Dark-side force (Satan), to try to confuse everyone and undo the good (God's) message contained in the earlier three films (Episodes 4-6). This is Satan's standard-practice and very predictable. He has done it with the Old Testament; New Testament and Koran and the three major religions who claim to be based on them |
Well I think everyone was pretty disappointed with the prequel trilogy, but Lucas should have confined himself to the producer's chair where he belongs. I would accept Ja Ja Binks could only be the work of Satan though.
| Quote: | | from which episodes 1-3 should have been made, as I did my best, frequently, to tell him. |
LOL yeah I bet he did too. That must have been well funny.
| Quote: | | What do you say about Usary Laws Dogsmilk and item7 ? |
I say tish and fipsy.
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| item7 wrote: | | I was wanting to read about the money scam. |
I'm surprised you can afford to take the time out from your climatology Phd.
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If any of your Jewish students go on to get a high-flying banking job, become a politician or otherwise become wealthy and powerful, will they suddenly become Jewish conspirators? |
You generalise to all Jewish people.
Like myself, you repeat yourself without responding to points. This is a dialogue of the deaf.
The control is AT THE TOP. This is where the evil resides. I have friends and one member of my family in senior banking positions. Who would blame them for anything. They are as clueless about the system, by and large, as the man in the street. They did not create this system they just play it.....as they are paid to do.
Everyone but a small elite is a pawn of this machine.
As a Christian, I see Christ's challenge to the wicked Pharissees who rejected His spiritual kingdom and developed this exclusively Jew-loving drive for absolute global racial hegemony as a key issue. Freemasonry is a later development and is basically Talmudism for gentiles. Who pulls who's strings in the drive for global domination, who can tell.....
....but in principle it is a very wicked endevour that must be exposed for what it is.
The 'New World Order' is real. It is growing before our eyes and, like Soviet Communism was said to be led by 50% Jews and 50% Russians, so it appears, is this 'New World Order'.
I don't know exactly who these people are but I know what they are about and it is total control for them and slavery for the rest of us.
The record for the Soviets is ominous. 40-50 million murdered. These victims were not Jews.
You might be comfortable with the way things are going dogsmilk but many of us are not.
We look closely and try very hard to discern the reality of all that is taking place around us.
I say humanity is in the grip of two Luciferian cults who hold the whip hand over us because of their wealth, power and ability to lie and use dopey careerist figureheads to lie for them on their behalf.
Christ came to the Jews with Good News, to save them from this faction of power-crazed fiends. Some rejected him, some did not. The question must be posed again.
He came to save us all and will do so.
The nightmare is far advanced. The current pyramidal power structure must be wrecked. Only the truth and embracing the other kingdom, God's love, can save us now.
It seems to me that you are a Jew first and a human being second, dogsmilk. It is very difficult to respect that.
You show no interest in 9/11 nor in the obvious fact that Mossad (amongst others) were up to their necks in this heinous crime. You only attack any and every suggestion of any kind of Jewish or Israeli perfidy. It is your only recognisable concern.
It is the overwhelming Jewish influence on the media and politics in general together with the dishonesty, the denials, the intensive propaganda and the effects of that propaganda that convince people like me that this is a very important issue to keep raising. |
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