And there was me thinking this site was open minded...No chance...!
I met Shayler and Machon a few times at various 9/11 events a few years back, and at one of which, I chatted with William Rodriguez at a UK 9/11 truth event.
I have spoken to various people regards WTC7 free fall collapse
including Lord Carlisle who incidentally publicy said 'what rubbish'.
Also went to the David Ray Griffin talk in London at Conway hall.
It seems to me that someone has let the power of moderation (aka censorship) go to their head.
Just like the BBC 'have your say' site.
That therefore makes this forum very dodgy...!
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This site two years ago would not have had this ridiculous label
'dodgy poster' applied.
It is totally unjustified and I want it removed.
If not then this site will then see some real dodgy postings I can
assure you of that.
There is more than one way to skin a rabbit....!
I will not stand for it.
I want to know the name of the person responsible.
Tony Gosling I want an answer to why this happened because I
have spoken in defence of David Icke...?
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject:
I never call anybody a shill because I can never prove it. I don't believe in spreading negative rumours about people. To do so is to condemn on the basis of a suspicion.
To have a website specify who is a shill and who may be dodgy, sets up those who control the website as apparent founts of wisdom on other people about whom they may know little, and may be mistaken.
I'm not surprised that Amaninblack is hopping mad.
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 413 Location: South Essex
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject:
Finally a member of the established truth movement,namely Noel actually endorses the view that I'm sure many on here agree with.
Labelling people without proof,or even on a misunderstanding of intent of a post, does not a "shill" or "dodgy poster" make.
I'd also like to know who does the "labelling" on this site? _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 413 Location: South Essex
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject:
Stephen wrote:
I dont think Shalyer gives a *!!
A distraction Stephen,the question now is, who is doing the "shill and dodgy poster" labelling?
Shayler might be either very clever,or a total dick I don't really know for sure. _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 2017 Location: Croydon, Surrey
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:22 pm Post subject:
Expressing admiration for David Icke is certainly no reason to call someone a 'shill'. Icke was, as far as I'm aware, the first person in the UK to publish a book, "Alice in Wonderland" saying that 9/11 was an inside job.
Apart from the reptile thing (cannot take a view on that) he is spot on on most other issues.
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: More from the cybercafe...
@amaninblack
What's in a label, really? Why let it bother you - your posts will eventually show us all where you're really coming from. Look on it as a test of your ego vs service-to-others level? ;-)
@QuitTheirClogs
Glad to see someone else wondering about the banana. Kp2 to Kp4? Classic.
And now, for the judge who has everything, with apologies to the confirmed pacifists on this board:-
http://www.sokkomb.com/ (rumour has it that this 'item' has been slipped into the latest Italian IKEA catalogues...)
Please can we now drop (lock?) this thread and leave Dolores alone? There is no useful info here to halt the Noo Whirled Ordure... _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
"Timely Demise to All Oppressors - at their Convenience!" - 'Interesting Times', Terry Pratchett
Thermate what you say is indeed true.
However I am still annoyed about it and I am put off from
contributing to this site, which does own the british truth movement
in any case.
kbo234 I agree with you re: David Icke.
How is it that someone be labelled a shill for supporting David Icke...?
It's unjustified and irrational.
'Alice in wonderland and the WTC Disaster' is very revealing.
David Icke has no doubt 9/11 was a fake terrorist attack.
And no answer so far from the person responsible.
For the label I mean. LOL...!
At least there are people who can see through this
because if you couldn't then you couldn't see the truth regards
9/11 and the bigger picture.
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David Ike does reveal many things.
As for the reptile thing as far as I know he has dropped that now as far as shape shifting reptiles are concerned, I have heard it said that he was set up by many people visiting him ect seemingly independently to sell it to him. I hope believe he got wise to this set up.
Its like the Nephilim thing.
Well how can Spirit beings breed with organic c-space firmament matter?
The book of Enoch (taken out by the vested interests) will reveal the truth to this.
-------------------------------------
(from Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There, 1872)
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
>Alice (German for all or everything)
> Jabberwock (Jab the truth the rock Christ)
"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!"
>Jubjub bird (J censored Jesuit)
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
> manxome foe he sought (manx isle of man, son of man)(Keltoi, Celtic Israilites ect)
And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
> "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? (satan)(12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?
12:27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast [them] out? therefore they shall be your judges.
12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the Kingdom of God is come unto you.
12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
12:30 He that is not WITH me is AGAINST me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
"....Don't want to argue, I don't want to debate
Don't want to hear about what kind of food you hate
You won't get no dessert 'till you clean off your plate
So eat it......just eat it...! get yourself an egg and beat it...!"
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject:
Yes, Icke sometimes comes up with top class stuff
That wasn't the reason
kbo234 wrote:
Expressing admiration for David Icke is certainly no reason to call someone a 'shill'. Icke was, as far as I'm aware, the first person in the UK to publish a book, "Alice in Wonderland" saying that 9/11 was an inside job.
Apart from the reptile thing (cannot take a view on that) he is spot on on most other issues.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject:
1. you posted in the wrong thread about being labelled a shill
2. you posted your complaine on the forum rather than PM me
any more breaking the rules you'll be suspended
I suggest you:
1 take a deep breath
2. read the rules fully through (they are in about this website and you sign up to them when you sign up to the forum) before posting if you really are serious about contributing here.
thanks
amaninblack wrote:
Where have all my posts gone...?
So now we are censored on this site....!
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: BEWARE THIS SITE IS NOW CENSORED JUST LIKE MAINSTREAM MEDIA
This so called truth site is nothing but a disgusting sham...!
I have been labelled a dodgy poster by some sad coward who
refused to answer my question as to why.
Then deleted posts my posts and those which supported my right
to free speech and to support David Icke.
If you think this site looks at the bigger picture you are mistaken.
It was ok here up until las year but forget it now.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: TONY GOSLING HAS LOST ALL CREDIBILITY. SAY NO TO NEWSPEA
amaninblack wrote:
This site is a disgrace to all intelligent people.
I warned I would take action and now shall do all I can to show
this site is fake and a waste of time.
I'm signing off for now but I will be back.
It's all over for this site.
I take action in the name of anarchy in the UK
when in doubt, the spirit of '77 will prevail.
I take back my knee-jerk quip about CIA and Mossad; I've checked some previous posts, and I will now just settle on the threats to the site, which are rash and OTT.
I am not privvy to previous correspondence between you and Tony, so I'll stear clear of that. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1491 Location: North Lancashire
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:16 pm Post subject:
From analysis of your 35 posts amaninblack I can see no evidence that your a shill or dodgy poster.
So Tony can you give us the evidence and explain the action of mislabelling or is this just another case of sowing seeds of division within the movement? _________________ Pikey
Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: amaninblack
amaninblack wrote:
Quote:
I take action in the name of anarchy in the UK
when in doubt, the spirit of '77 will prevail.
I've seen quite a few of your posts now and one thing seems to be very clear, whether or not you are a "shill" or a "dodgy poster" (whatever that means), and that is that you're a complete *.
I'd say you're either about 15 years old or a serious major league retard.
Your posts have the tone and feel of bratty tantrums. Are you feeling OK?
I agree that there does not seem to be any benefit in labeling someone as a shill or dodgy poster.
However, complete and utter dis-information, shi*e, and what is clearly psy ops, should be identified in some way, so that infrequent readers of this board, do not get misled. For that reason, 'shill' and 'dodgy poster' do (IMO) serve a purpose, however they should be applied carefully!
amaninblack wrote:
This site is a disgrace to all intelligent people.
That in itself is an insult to those that either contribute to, or just read the content. If you want to avoid dodgy labels, avoid the insults. _________________ In the end, it's not the words of your enemies you will remember, but the silence of your friends. Martin Luther King
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject: Re: amaninblack
It was YOUR initial baseless accusation that started this WAKEY MEDIA.
I have only responded in an angry fashion to an injustice.
Tony Gosling as the editor for some misguided reason concurs with you and added the label which is a childish act.
It's cause and effect.
I mean if you met me face to face would you be so keen to use abusive labels wakey media...?
maybe you would like to meet me someplace and discuss this....?
Plenty of posts supported me yet the ones in control refuse to remove the label. So until it is I shall continue to defend by attacking.
I think it's only fair....
Ps.
I would rather spend my time doing positive things like speaking up
for Gary Mckinnon, but I have been a little distracted by having to defend myself here.
My 'spirit of 77' comment should have given an idea to my age.
Wakey Media couldn't see that either.
"I'd say you're about 15 years old........."
Amaninblack is in reference to my lifelong appreciation of the Stranglers.
JJ Burnel didn't put up with slurs from the journos either...LOL...!
1. you posted in the wrong thread about being labelled a shill
2. you posted your complaine on the forum rather than PM me
any more breaking the rules you'll be suspended
I suggest you:
1 take a deep breath
2. read the rules fully through (they are in about this website and you sign up to them when you sign up to the forum) before posting if you really are serious about contributing here.
thanks
amaninblack wrote:
Where have all my posts gone...?
So now we are censored on this site....!
I will post wherever I like and if you suspend me instead of apologising for the injustice I will start another membership....!
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:42 pm Post subject:
amaninblack wrote:
if you suspend me instead of apologising for the injustice I will start another membership....!
Yes others have taken that course. I think it's really your only option if you're determined to post here.
I don't understand why you have been labelled a shill and dodgy poster - not for posting in the wrong thread, nor for complaining about something on the forum, surely?
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:01 am Post subject:
Noel,
You do understand, because I have explained fully above.
I had to edit out a masturbatory word too with which this user referred to another user.
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=137958#137958
If you have any but trivial problems with my moderation please PM me as per the rules.
Anybody who starts getting aggressive when asked to look at the forum rules is not the sort of person I will have around here.
xmasdale wrote:
amaninblack wrote:
if you suspend me instead of apologising for the injustice I will start another membership....!
I don't understand why you have been labelled a shill and dodgy poster - not for posting in the wrong thread, nor for complaining about something on the forum, surely?
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