Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: Mystery white plane above the Pentagon.
As the saying goes "seek and you shall find" I have done just that.
This may be known to some of you already but had to share an interesting observation about one of the aircraft seen above The Pentagon at the time of the attack.
You may recall this photo No.(1) below.
*Note the squared off wing tips.
I think this could be a varient of the Boeing 747.
To be precise the Boeing E-4B.
"In 1992 the Air Force reorganized its military unit structure. The Strategic Air Command was deactivated, and on June 1, the unified U.S. Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM), was established. The 55th Strategic Wing then became the 55th Wing, under the newly created Air Combat Command." Immediately after the attacks of September 11, 2001, President George W.Bush flew to Offutt AFB."
"One of the most dramatic episodes aboard Air Force One happened on September 11, 2001, when it flew President George W. Bush from Sarasota, Florida, where he was interrupted at an education event because of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. President Bush flew on Air Force One to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, and then flew to Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, before returning to Washington. The next day, officials at the White House and the Justice Department said that Bush did this because there was "credible evidence that the White House and Air Force One were targets.""
Now what I`m wondering in all this is whether the whole of the days events were actually being co-ordinated from that base, and was G.W.Bush really going there for `safety` or briefing/debriefing.
Also isn`t that odd that if Air Force One was considered a target why the **** did `they` allow him to fly on it ?
Geoff.
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Interesting stuff. To be honest though, I tend not to discuss the Pentagon too much. _________________ "All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject:
Geoff,
Bush first of all flew to Barksdale AFB, Louisiana, (to presumably re-fuel) and then to Offut AFB, Nebraska, the HQ of Strategic Command, a top security base from which the Occupant of the White House would have the facilities to conduct a war. At Offut, Bush probably met Warren Buffet, the second richest man in the world, to discuss what? The story goes that Buffet was there to organise an annual charity golf tournament, but I cannot believe that was the reason Bush was there. I believe that there is more to it than that. Incidentally, after Air Force One left Sarasota, Fla, Colonel Mark Tillman almost turned the big Boeing on its tail to speedily gain hight, after a message had been passed to Vice-President Cheney that said "Angel is next!" (Angel being the code that day for the presential plane.)
Also on the link above indications FEMA uses the services of the E-4B.
quote
"The E4B, the National Airborne Operations Center, provides an airborne operations center in case of a national emergency or destruction of ground command centers. A militarized version of the Boeing 747-200, it is outfitted to provide a modern highly survivable, command, control and communications center to direct U.S. forces, to execute emergency war orders, and to coordinate actions by civil authorities. Additionally, this aircraft supports the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), by flying emergency response teams to a disaster area (hurricane, tornado, etc.) and acting as the agency’s command and control center until FEMA’s equipment and facilities can be set up."
Geoff.
the above link is from a post on loose change which had me looking at the E-4B.
thats not all that was in the air.... u aint forgot about them planes with full payloads of nukes pflying about american aerospace on sept 11th. i think thats right, someone correct me if im wrong.
thats not all that was in the air.... u aint forgot about them planes with full payloads of nukes pflying about american aerospace on sept 11th. i think thats right, someone correct me if im wrong.
Webster Tarpley did say at the 9\11 Scholars Symposium that the US nuclear arm was on full alert, and that various missiles, subs, and aircraft were in position, and not just in US territory either. _________________ "All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller
"The E4B, the National Airborne Operations Center, provides an airborne operations center in case of a national emergency or destruction of ground command centers. A militarized version of the Boeing 747-200, it is outfitted to provide a modern highly survivable, command, control and communications center to direct U.S. forces, to execute emergency war orders, and to coordinate actions by civil authorities. Additionally, this aircraft supports the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), by flying emergency response teams to a disaster area (hurricane, tornado, etc.) and acting as the agency’s command and control center until FEMA’s equipment and facilities can be set up."
Nice find, Gef.
It's use as a "command, control and communications center to direct US Forces" would explain what it was doing there. Questions is: was it being used by emergency responze officials or by the alleged conspirators? I suspect the latter for two reasons: 1) it obviously didn't improve the emergency response and 2) if it as the former, those officials would have explained long ago what the plane was doing there. _________________ Stick to what you KNOW. All else is disinformation, intended or not.
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:03 am Post subject: Re: White plane above Pentagon.
GEFBASS wrote:
As the saying goes "seek and you shall find" I have done just that.
This may be known to some of you already but had to share an interesting observation about one of the aircraft seen above The Pentagon at the time of the attack.
You may recall this photo No.(1) below.
*Note the squared off wing tips.
I think this could be a varient of the Boeing 747.
To be precise the Boeing E-4B.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-4B A Note from me about this subject; When I was at the pentagon I saw this white aircraft. I thought to Myself as I watched this that it appeared to me to be a Boeing 707 or a DC8.
Please do not take that to the bank. That shows you how good we protect America,s Capital. In 1 year when Bill Clinton was in Offic a crazed person flew a Cesnna 172 into the white house. Look it up on Google. The white jet I think played a Major part in the pentagon issue. .
Sam Danner
Maybe not news on it`s own but I searched for their operating base.
Offutt Airforce Base, Nabraska.
With Google Earth got this photo No.(2) below.
Comparison composited photo. No.(3) below.
"In 1992 the Air Force reorganized its military unit structure. The Strategic Air Command was deactivated, and on June 1, the unified U.S. Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM), was established. The 55th Strategic Wing then became the 55th Wing, under the newly created Air Combat Command." Immediately after the attacks of September 11, 2001, President George W.Bush flew to Offutt AFB."
"One of the most dramatic episodes aboard Air Force One happened on September 11, 2001, when it flew President George W. Bush from Sarasota, Florida, where he was interrupted at an education event because of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. President Bush flew on Air Force One to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, and then flew to Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, before returning to Washington. The next day, officials at the White House and the Justice Department said that Bush did this because there was "credible evidence that the White House and Air Force One were targets.""
Now what I`m wondering in all this is whether the whole of the days events were actually being co-ordinated from that base, and was G.W.Bush really going there for `safety` or briefing/debriefing.
Also isn`t that odd that if Air Force One was considered a target why the **** did `they` allow him to fly on it ?
If this subject was previously discussed I must have been absent.
The forum posts below are from Pinnacle and Jack D at Pilots for Truth -
Pinnacle:
I have a letter from the US Air Force stating that they have "no knowledge" of the
White Jet that flew over Washington in restricted airspace between 9:30 and 10:00
am on September 11, 2001.
Several months ago I filed a FOIA request with the FAA for data on this aircraft
based on my communications with eyewitnesses who saw and photographed this plane as the White House was being evacuated, and recordings from NBC news describing this plane on the air.
My FOIA is still stalled due to a subpoena for all 9/11 records for a court case.
I also have a pending request to Discovery Channel for details about the video of an E-4B supposedly shot on 9/11 near the Pentagon.
The Vigilant Guardian exercise involved three E-4Bs but all were supposedly in airspace over Nebraska since they are designed to stay far from target areas and at high altitude for safety.
Interestingly there was a report of a White Jet over Kansas later that day after all planes had been grounded which could have been this plane.
It makes no sense to put an E-4B low and slow over the
White House and Pentagon when it's whole purpose is take control after the
ground based command centers have been destroyed.
Why risk being a big white target for a hijacked airliner to crash into and take out 300 million dollars worth of electronics gear?
In the 35mm film image it appears to have front flaps extended for extra slow flying. The video also appears to be quite slow for a plane of this size over a populated area.
This plane was up to something that has been kept secret for five years.
Since there is plenty of documentary evidence for this plane, I think it's
presence and the subsequent cover-up should be a major focus of all 9/11 investigations.
Jack D:
Rardon of Indiana found the MISSING PIECE to the 9/11 White Jet Timeline PUZZLE. He sent a CNN video exposing the WHITE JET PRESENCE over the White House environs. Previously the WHITE JET was seen and/or caught on video in the other 9/11 locations, but not Washington, D.C., orchestrating the most heinous mass murder in American History. The online transcripts for that CNN broadcast are found at
Advance the 01 in the url to get later transcripts.
About 10 minutes ago, there was a white jet circling overhead. Now, you generally don’t see planes in the area over the White House. That is restricted air space. No reason to believe that this jet was there for any nefarious purposes, but the Secret Service was very concerned, pointing up at the jet in the sky. It is out of sight now, best we can tell. They’ve evacuated the entire White House staff and the old executive office, as well as some townhouses that are government offices.
About a half hour ago, the Capitol building itself was evacuated. It was a little bit chaotic. Everyone was running out of the building. People ran a couple of blocks away. Now have been pushed back by security. We’re within two blocks of the Capitol. I did see a plane, about a half hour ago, circling over the Capitol. Now whether that may have been a Air Force plane, it’s unclear. But that seemed to be the reason, according to security guards that I talked with, towards the evacuation of the Capitol.
2) Meseidy Rodriguez confirms "it was a mid size plane". His brother inlaw
also saw a jetliner flying low over the tree tops near Seminary Rd. in
Springfield, VA. and soon afterwards a military plane was seen flying right
behind it.
http://mfile.akamai.com/920/rm/thepost.dow...n/091101-5s.ram
3) Kelly Knowles says that seconds after seeing Flight 77 pass, she sees a
"second plane that seemed to be chasing the first [pass] over at a slightly
different angle." [Daily Press, 9/15/01]
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timelin...ress091501.html
4) Keith Wheelhouse says the second plane was a C-130, two others aren’t
certain. [Daily Press, 9/15/01] Wheelhouse "believes IT FLEW DIRECTLY ABOVE THE AMERICAN AIRLINES (AS AT THE NORTH TOWER!), as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon." As Flight 77 descends toward the Pentagon, the second plane veers off west. [Daily
Press, 9/14/01]
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timelin...ress091401.html
[NOTE: WHEELHOUSE JUST MAY BE FULL OF **(] I DEFER TO MERC AND RUSSEL.
5) USA Today reporter Vin Narayanan, who saw the Pentagon explosion, says,
"I hopped out of my car after the jet exploded, nearly oblivious to a second
jet hovering in the skies." [USA Today, 9/17/01]
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/0...irst-person.htm
6) USA Today Editor Joel Sucherman sees a second plane. [eWeek, 9/13/01].
Within a minute another plane started veering up and to the side. At that
point it wasn’t clear if that plane was trying to manouver out of the air
space or if that plane was coming round for another hit. (Audio)
http://play.rbn.com/?url=usat/usat/g2deman...1sucherman.ra&v
7) An unnamed worker at Arlington national cemetery "said a mysterious
second plane was circling the area when the first one attacked the
Pentagon." [Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 12/20/01]
http://www.s-t.com/daily/12-01/12-20-01/a02wn018.htm
Youtube video -
The White Jet E-4B filmed near the White House at Washington
Why Did the World’s Most Advanced Electronics Warfare Plane Circle Over The White House on 9/11?
Mark H. Gaffney
Volume 13 - July 2007
Journal of 9/11 Studies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHOx5_rBM0
(inside this article is the link to the original CNN website were the first sequence was found).
Hey, tell this bright guy Alex Jones and the clever Loose Change crew to help us disclosing the high aerial technology et al used on 9/11, tell them to fight with us against the Black Programs, please:
http://blog.myspace.com/alex_infowarrior
A white jet was also circling around the WTC, it was reported by CNN, by Diane Sawyer, mentioned as seen by hero Will Jimeno and Camera-woman Jennifer Spell as well as by the military covering the space at that day. This is one shot of it, see the classified vehicles near to it and no report whatsoever of them:
NOT reporting all that Classified, BlackOps, Top Secret, Covert Operations aircraft flying around it, ’cause it was "in it", and most important, its presence there at WTC and at the Pentagon. That’s similar to the silence of the NYPD chopper passing near a BlackOps monitor at our:
, minute 3.47. Those "NYPD" choppers were also "in it".
"Truth Will Prevail"
For the cointels trying to deceive the flock, here is the CNN information that shows exactly the White House Evacuation and the E-4B flying very low and circling it:
Title:WH EVACUATION
Date:11-Sep-2001
Length:00:09:03
Source:R/CNN WX
Form:RAW
Abstract:
Video Log:01:16:25;00 [Employees evacuate the White House & the Old Executive Building in wake of terrorist attacks earlier that hit the World Trade Center & the Pentagon]--- 11:05:36 10:56:34 people evacuating the WH, many running/ 10:58:34 people, cars leaving the WH gate/ 10:59:05 police tell people the sidewalk in front of the WH is close, people cross street/11:00:24 fire trucks w sirens blaringdrive up to the WH gate, cars leave the WH gate/11:01:58 plane flying above the WH/ 11:02:13 people run across street, down sidewalk, sirens are heard/ 11:03:35 ambulance w siren going driving down street/11:03:39 WH security (secret se rvice?)w telescope on WH roof/ 11:05:06 police place yellow police tape aroundposts on sidewalk infront of WH.
The full video showing secret service pointing at it before the attack to Pentagon, at:
Title: White House Evacuation
Rec : 18
Date: 09/11/2001
Slug: White House Evacuation
Dateline: US; DC
Type: RAW
Reporter:
Length: 00:18:09:28
Source: R/CNN WX, R/CNN WX
Tape : B24141002
Record ID: 2001011004966
Collection : Atlanta
CNN ID : 91040709
Video Config: Audio Config: Tape Format: BETA Offsite Box: Description:
00:09:05:27 [B-roll employees evacuate White House & the Old Executive Building after terrorist attacks
in NY & DC and Sen Warner comments on the attacks]---LS people running down steps away from Old
Executive Bldg/ LS people walking out of Old Exec bldg/ MS security tells people to get off Wht Hse
grounds/ QS media set up as they announce "explosion at the Pentagon"/ MS people file out of Wht Hse
gate/ LS limos paused/ WS lrg group walking away from the Wht Hse/ MS men waiting in st/ MS fire truck
w sirens GOOD AUDIO/ PB fire engine passes Old Exec bldg/ VS police cars pass (tinted windows) as
fire trucks etc arrive on scene/ LS plane flying above/ MS people running across st/ VS people walking w
bags etc/ WS people running on sidewalk/ MS ambulance arriving GOOD AUDIO/ LS sharp shooters
walking on roof of Wht Hse/ PAN people looking as security blocks off Lafayette Park in front of N faade
of the Wht Hse/ VS people walking/ LS fighter plane flying above/ MS woman asking people to disperse/
Break/ RRAX/ SOT Sen John Warner (R-VA) "Capitol hill has responded w the right precautions & closed
our bldgs"/ RRAX/ SOT Warner "Another Pearl Harbor for this country" (0:00) / _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: Two more mystery aircraft over the Pentagon on 9/11
Here is my latest blog entry, which is about two previously unknown military jet aircraft that were flying near the Pentagon around the time it was attacked on 9/11. What were these aircraft and what were they doing? You can read my original blog posting, with links to the source articles, here:
http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2009/09/bobcats-over-washington-on-9 11-what.html
Bobcats Over Washington on 9/11: What Were Two Mystery Aircraft Doing Overhead at the Time of the Pentagon Attack?
Two military aircraft were flying at high altitude near the Pentagon around the time it was hit on 9/11, but the identities of these aircraft and what they were doing over the Pentagon are unknown.
The planes had the call signs "Bobcat 14" and "Bobcat 17." A partial transcript of air traffic controller communications reveals they were communicating with the control tower at Washington's Reagan National Airport, which is less than a mile from the Pentagon, between at least 9:31 a.m. and 9:40 a.m. on September 11. [1] (The attack on the Pentagon took place at 9:37 a.m. [2]) Radar data has shown that the two aircraft flew "in trail" (in single file, with one directly behind the other) at an altitude of 21,000 feet, and were overhead in the few minutes before the Pentagon was hit. [3]
LAUNCHED FROM DOVER AIR BASE
It would seem essential to establish the exact identities of these aircraft and find out what they were doing in the vicinity of the Pentagon at such a critical time. Yet, eight years after the attacks took place, we still do not have this information. (The fact that these aircraft were near the Pentagon at the time it was hit is itself virtually unknown.)
According to a 9/11 Commission memorandum, "flight strips and other information" indicate that the two aircraft, Bobcat 14 and Bobcat 17, "originated out of Dover Air Force Base in Delaware." The memorandum added, "It is possible, but not confirmed, that they were Air Force corporate passenger jets." When questioned by the 9/11 Commission, Bob Lazar, the acting operations manager at Reagan Airport on September 11, said he "did not remember any aircraft with the call sign 'Bobcat' that hung out over the National airspace" that day. All he could say was that he did remember two aircraft "coming from the north, but he did not think that they entered National's airspace." [4]
OTHER AIRCRAFT NEAR THE PENTAGON
Furthermore, there were at least two other military aircraft near the Pentagon at the time it was hit. A C-130 cargo plane that took off from Andrews Air Force Base, which is 10 miles from the Pentagon, was airborne by 9:33 a.m., and was seen by numerous witnesses above the Pentagon just after the attack there. [5] Its pilot reportedly witnessed the explosion from the Pentagon crash. [6]
And television news reporters described a "white jet" plane that was "circling the White House" a few minutes after the Pentagon was hit. [7] (The White House is about three miles from the Pentagon.) Two government sources familiar with the incident later told CNN that the plane was a military aircraft, but its details were classified. An analysis by CNN suggested the aircraft was an E-4B, which is a militarized version of a Boeing 747 that is used as a flying command post. [8] One such aircraft is known to have taken off from an airfield outside Washington, DC, shortly before the Pentagon was hit. [9]
Considering the historical significance of the 9/11 attacks, which have had devastating consequences that affect us to this day, it is essential that important details surrounding those attacks be thoroughly investigated. We therefore need to know exactly what the two aircraft--Bobcat 14 and Bobcat 17--were, and why they were flying above the Pentagon around the time it was attacked on September 11.
NOTES
[1] "Partial Transcript; Aircraft Accident; AAL77; Washington, DC; September 11, 2001." Federal Aviation Administration, September 20, 2001.
[2] 9/11 Commission, The 9/11 Commission Report: Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (Authorized Edition). New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 2004, p. 10.
[3] "Memorandum for the Record: Visit to Reagan National Airport Control Tower in Alexandria, VA and Andrews Air Force Base Control Tower." 9/11 Commission, July 28, 2003.
[4] Ibid.
[5] "AA 77 Radar-Based Timeline and Maps." 9/11 Commission, n.d.; "9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001: Witnesses See Military Cargo Plane Near Flight 77; Pilot Later Implies he is Far Away." Complete 9/11 Timeline.
[6] "The Secret History of 9/11: The U.S. Government Reacts." CBC, September 10, 2006.
[7] "Planes Crash Into World Trade Center." ABC News, September 11, 2001; "The White House Has Been Evacuated." Breaking News, CNN, September 11, 2001.
[8] "Tropical Storm Humberto Heads for Texas; Democrats Blast Petraeus Timeline for Troop Withdrawal; Interview With General David Petraeus." Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees, CNN, September 12, 2007.
[9] Dan Verton, Black Ice: The Invisible Threat of Cyber-Terrorism. Emeryville, CA: McGraw-Hill/Osborne, 2003, pp. 143-144. According to former 9/11 Commission staff member Miles Kara, this E-4B aircraft took off from Andrews Air Force Base and was airborne at 9:27 a.m. See Miles Kara, "9/11: The Mystery Plane; Not so Mysterious." 9/11 Revisited, June 30, 2009. _________________ http://www.shoestring911.blogspot.com
E4-B communicating with AWACS, satellite systems, other air vehicles and the pentagon. So you need AWACS... and here's evidence that AWACS were flying on 9/11.
Major General Larry Arnold, Commander, 1st Air Force, Tyndall AFB, Florida "...An AWACS flying a training mission nearby (to DC) arrived. The AWACS could talk to the Northeast Sector and provide a better picture to them. Another AWACS was flying a training mission off the coast of Florida."
So how come this information isn't common knowledge? So while FAA may have blinded by the transponder switch off in the hijacked aircraft, the AWACS would not have been. Since the DoD were misdirecting fighters over the atlantic, this was sheer madness since the AWACS giving a near-perfect aerial picture of the situation!
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