US 'releases 9/11 Pentagon tape'

flamesong · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: US 'releases 9/11 Pentagon tape'

US 'releases 9/11 Pentagon tape'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4987716.stm

Pikey · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject:

Yep Alf this should be interesting.

Will they also release the video footage confiscated by the FBI agents at the hotel and vehicle filling station opposite?

Peace & truth

Bouncy Castle · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject:

Loose Change, Edition 3 anyone?

jason67 · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject:

Anybody got an idea when we can see it?

flamesong · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject:

Dunno how long you will have to wait.

I only know that as a graphic designer, if I kept a client waiting nearly five years whilst I rearranged the pixels on a handful of poor quality, low resolution video stills, I would have got the sack.

Licenced2chill · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: oh dear...

Ive seen it on bbc news,its the same damn video as the famous three frames...thanks pentagon,we all believe you now(someone should really tell these guys that their "new video" is the same bit that people are using to prove the inside job,ie:there is no plane on yer new video suckers.
I was at least hoping that they would have made an effort and released some faked scene or something.
Rolling Eyes

Licenced2chill · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: link

heres what the gaurdian say(same video we`ve all seen)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,,1776224,00.html

jason67 · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject:

Hey, Licenced2chill, are you sure it was the new video that has been released and not the pics of the old one?

Licenced2chill · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject:

Well,i couldn`t believe it ,but i think it is!
"The video has not been officially released before but it has been leaked and publicly circulated on the internet."
The guardian,today 7pm.
News 24 were showing it a bit ago saying"pentagon decided to release the footage to finally put to rest the conspiracy theories"

PUKE

I could be wrong,they may yet show us a nice cut n paste job...

Licenced2chill · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: news 24 now!

quick watch news 24 now-merseyside detonation of ww2 bomb in 5 mins!!! quick

brian · Same video still showing Sep 12 2001 date.

Same video still showing Sep 12 2001 date.

Licenced2chill · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject:

AAArgh dont bother ,its tony teaching us about how hes going to poison us all with nuclear plants.

Ian · Editor Joined: 26 Jul 2005 Posts: 68 Location: Oxford

from the last line of the Guardian article...

"Most journalists, scientists and military experts have dismissed the conspiracy theories, but a minority of experts support them."

Is the the first 'nod' towards Scholars for 9/11 Truth (and other such groups) we've seen in the Guardian?

jason67 · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject:

I really cant understand why they would release this video which is exactly the same shot as the still photos. Whats the point? I thought that it would be brand new footage from at least another angle.
And how about those media reports on how it will prove that all of the conspiracy theories are now proved incorrect? I dont think so.
With desperate attempts like this the future is only going to get better!

TimmyG · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject:

ahh. didn't see this thread.
posted about the bbc news just on in another thread i made in general.

yeah.. still no sign of a 747. few more frames than we had already seen

alkmyst · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: Flight 77

www.edition.cnn.com/2006/US/05/16/pentagon.video/index.html

I have just spent the past two hours repeatedly running this newly released footage... and do you know what?

I still can't see anything that resembles a 757!

What I do see...is a white vapour trail ... at ground level?

It seems to me that the Emperor still ain't wearin' no clothes!!

Any suggestions?

Al K Myst

jason67 · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject:

Your just not looking hard enough Alkmyst, it must be there...

gypsum · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject:

I've done the same alkmyst, and I still see no evidence of a plane. They were dribbling the same nonsense on sky -
http://www.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,30000-pentagon_160506, 00.html
At least the guy admits he can't see a plane even though he's been assured by others that there's a plane there.

I got really exited when i saw the link on msn 'US releases 9/11 Pentagon video', but i was disappointed to see the same 5 frames as before with a few more at the end. Typical Rolling Eyes

Justin · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject:

The Dam is breaking - just seen News at Ten. Did anyone record and can we have a transcript? These 'new' images are what we have known about for years - there is nothing new. Certainly no proof of a 757. And what about all the other security cameras, especially at the filling station and hotel which were confiscated?

True that the alternative viewpoints concerning the Pentagon strike were described as 'outlandish conspiracy theories' by ITN, but tonight the British 9/11 Truth Movement has been given one hell of a boost - we must all knuckle down and work even harder! The cracks are definitely appearing!

Pikey · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:03 pm Post subject:

Just seen it on the BBC News at Ten.

In the words of Victor Meldrew "I dont believe it" its the same footage as appears on DVK's "In Plane site". You see no Boeing 757!

The BBC reporter stated that this should silence the very small minority of
Conspiracy theorists!

A totally dysfunctional and non independent media in terms of reporting the truth.

Sleep well but if you happen to wake up in a cold sweat dont be surprised!.

Peace & Truth

flamesong · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject:

You are all looking at the wrong video! And so is the BBC!

The newly released video, from two separate cameras, is here:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml

I'm not saying that there is any sign of Flight 77 but this is not the footage we have all seen before.

flamesong · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:21 pm Post subject:

By the way, the 'aircraft' appears a few frames after the car passes the barrier. At 1:26 on the first video and 0:24 on the second.

gypsum · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject:

Pikey · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject:

Thanx Alf.

Its as clear as mud, and its not recognisable as a civilian aircraft to me.

A couple of things struck me as being odd:- the taxi in video 1 and the car in video 2 are obviously very near to the camera yet you cannot read the reg plates and also after the impact there is no movement or anyone to be seen in the foreground.

flamesong · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject:

For a size comparison between the flying object and a car in the same area, look at the following frames:

1:26 'Aircraft'
2:41 Car

flamesong · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject:

And, though I never thought it was down to anything other than an incompetent technician who couldn't set the clock properly, it's interesting that the timestamp which showed 'Sep. 12, 2001 17:37:19' has been removed. Furthermore, this video is of a far more inferior quality than the one which has been pored over for years.

But remaining level-headed, there is still nothing conclusive here and the point is strongly made by Paul Watson, that we could all be being had - in pretty much the same way that I believe the missile/pod theory has the potential to destroy the credibility of the 9/11 Truth Movement:

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/may2006/160506giantpsyop.htm

is · Minor Poster Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 43

know people think this is a double bluff, but im starting to think that the gov'munt really have nothing left to pull out of the bag.

I mean, that video DOESNT SHOW A PLANE. If it were a plane, it would fill the entire screen.

Now, I know some are concerned that the no-planers will be the death of us and that the pentagon will produce new tapes showing an undeniable commercial jet hitting, but if this 'new' footage is in fact genuine, I dont see how a commercial het could have hit it. What it shows is a small jet or a missile.

What if theyre not * with us? What if weve actually got em on the ropes, and this is a desperate attempt to solidify support for the offical version, by producing doesnts of headline repetitions of 'new footage proves conspircy theorists wrong' and lies of that nature.

Could be. I still don't know what to think on the pentagon. Just seems to me that if a commercial airliner did hit it we would have seen a STILL IMAGE of the plane NEAR the building by now. The fact that we havnt is sheer insanity.

flamesong · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:55 am Post subject:

What both fascinates and confuses me is that Judicial Watch seem to be motivated by the belief that the release of this video would shut the 'conspiracy theorists' up. A quick scan through the comments left on the videos clearly shows that it has done anything but shut up the doubters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L75Gga92WO8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAaP4Z3zls8

If anything it has fueled even more doubt.

And whilst I have my own suspiscions about what might or might not have hit the Pentagon, I share the concern that we may succeed in waking a lot of people up only to have them hit the snooze button when concrete proof is either discovered or manufactured.

I liken this in many ways to the way that some, possible astroturf, organisations build their objections to ID cards on the argument that it will cost the tax payer a lot of money.

'We aren't going to pay £300 for an ID card'

'Well how about £75'

'Sounds very reasonable, don't mind if I do!'

A not too distant cousin of Problem, Reaction, Solution which is nothing more sophisticated than souk bartering - but also illustrates how easily and cynically the greater population can be manipulated.

Hazzard · Moderate Poster Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 368

Its actualy proving how hypnotised the world is.

By showing something they have already shown and then saying it shows something else. Is the equivalent of the hypnotist pouring ice water down your pants to make sure your still under his power.

Justin · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:09 am Post subject:

My own gut feeling is that we have them, the PTB, on the defensive and they are getting desperate. I'm personally convinced that no Boeing 757 went into the Pentagon - and the main reason why I believe this is what commercial airliner pilots have told me, especially a guy who actually flies 757s.

Yes, it is just possible we are being set up, but we are attacking on all fronts and with over three hundred significant smoking guns, what hit the Pentagon is just one of very many major problems we have with the official 9/11 story. What hit the Pentagon must still remain an important part of our investigation.

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