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paul wright Moderator
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scienceplease 2 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Quite interesting that WTC7 is not mentioned and only refers to "the three (sic) tower collapses"...
I'm not too sure whether "(sic)" is being used in the right context there.
I must go out and but an Independent today... |
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Jane Moderate Poster
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Well done Ian Henshall! _________________ Romans 12:2 Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Several of us were involved with Ian Henshall, his full page ad in the Indy, and in arranging two meetings on Monday Nov 2nd. The first is in parliament by invitation only, for MPs, peers and their researchers; the second is a public meeting at the School of Oriental and African Studies in London. Please come to this one.
The parliamentary meeting is the second such meeting for MPs and peers which Reinvestigate9/11 has held
Meeting details appear on the calendar and under Events on this website.
Thanks to those who have also publicised it on David Icke's website.
There is also still need for volunteers to support Reinvestigate9/11, either financially or by doing some work. |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Congratulations, Ian & Co.! GREAT AD!!
I only hope it gets the attention and response it deserves. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:31 am Post subject: |
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outsider wrote: | Congratulations, Ian & Co.! GREAT AD!!
I only hope it gets the attention and response it deserves. |
Yes, a very good ad. Hope it gets some traction somewhere
It struggles even on this forum
It certainly wont be discussed in the main media, including the Independent that hosted it
It'd be a guide to the price of everything, value of nothing freaks to know the cost of a full page advert in Britains least popular daily journal, if anyone could provide it. It might be a stimulus towards donations
I should have spread this further, though working a couple of nightshifts haven't had the time beyond the icke forum
Hope the ad goes viral
Well done, Ian, Ian, Noel and all |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Someone from the States can't open the PDF file; can someone please put complete ad on this Forum, so I can copy it to him? SAP, please! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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scienceplease 2 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:54 am Post subject: |
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PDF of advertisement?
Hmm - doesn't seem to want to load... |
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item7 Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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outsider wrote: | Someone from the States can't open the PDF file; can someone please put complete ad on this Forum, so I can copy it to him? SAP, please! |
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:59 am Post subject: |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Thanks scubadiver and item7 _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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TonyGosling Editor
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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TonyGosling wrote: | Well done all concerned, but has anybody got this PDF???
The reinvestigate one has been knobbled
Where else is it. |
Nobbled, already? Still in original place:
http://www.reinvestigate911.org/pages/advertisementfinal.pdf _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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@ Tony:
Must have nobbled your computer; still there at origianl site. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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fish5133 Site Admin
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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pdf works ok if you save it to your pc and then open it.
If youve got some reputed scottish or yorkshire ancestry and dont like giving money for nought then perhaps as way of support for the advert drop along to Ian Henshalls website and buy some coffee or tea.
http://www.coffee.uk.com/
p.s. i am not on commission. _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12 |
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:35 am Post subject: |
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TonyGosling wrote: | Well done all concerned, but has anybody got this PDF???
The reinvestigate one has been knobbled
Where else is it. |
I've only got a rough, unedited earlier version of it. You'd have to get the final version from Ian Henshall, but he and all of us directly involved in today's events are very busy today.
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scienceplease 2 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Pikey Banned
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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paul wright wrote: | It'd be a guide to the price of everything, value of nothing freaks to know the cost of a full page advert in Britains least popular daily journal, if anyone could provide it. It might be a stimulus towards donations
I should have spread this further, though working a couple of nightshifts haven't had the time beyond the icke forum
Hope the ad goes viral
Well done, Ian, Ian, Noel and all |
Hi
Ian Henshall thanks those who have given it publicity elsewhere and he writes:
"The price is confidential, but they gave us a
very good price compared to normal. If people
just send in £10 or £20 and recommend my coffee
beans (www.coffee.uk.com) to friends who drink
real coffee and even more to any coffee shops
they know, we will soon have paid for the ad. If
they just think about it than we won't.
Ian"
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Pikey wrote: | Its been a long time since 911 truth activism hit its peak in the UK in September 2007.
Well done to all those responsible for regenerating the campaign and I hope that you get a better/improved response from the MPs than has been obtained previously.
I still believe the advice provided to us by MP Michael Meacher that the only chanceyou have of ever getting the truth is by securing massive support at grassroots level.
Look forward to reading a report from Noel. |
We certainly need more grassroots activity to keep it in the public mind. Trouble is people get tired of repeating the same message to the public and move on to other activities. What we need is people who will stick to the central message and keep finding ways of communicating it to the public. Don't get discouraged. We are still in a "War on Terror" which resulted from the 9/11 massacre.
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Pikey Banned
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | What we need is people who will stick to the central message |
Which is Noel?
Problem in the UK now is there are no mechanisms in place to unite 911 truth campaign supporters. No national/regional gatherings etc to make an impression in the corporate media world.
On the front page of this site. It rolls out the annoucement:-
Quote: | One voice, One truth, One justice |
Quote: | The British 911 truth campaign |
followed by the link to the "official" site:-
Quote: | www.911truthcampaign.net |
Trouble is you cannot get connected to the site. Its dead.
So why on earth put it on the front page here?
What sort of an impression does that give those just embarking on their 911 truth journey who come here for support? _________________ Pikey
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blackbear Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps this might help:
Thus can one, very important motive for the 9/11 attacks be ascribed to an identifiable group of high-level, very, very well-connected zionist fanatics.
Is there a comparable motive for the Saudis to have driven them to carry out the 9/11 attacks? The opposite is true: as I said before, the Saudi rulers utterly depend on the continuous support and protection of the U.S. for their very survival. Unlike the zionists, however, they have no cadres of committed agents embedded at the highest levels within the American media, Congress, the White House, Pentagon and other powerful institutions to ensure an unquestioning, passionate attachment of the U.S. towards Saudi Arabia regardless of what it does. The Saudis know very well that American support is purely a function of their usefulness, and their continued willingness to do what they're told.
Second, but by no means secondary, there is an immense profit motive that points to the complicity of a number of specific, very well-placed zionist/Israeli agents in the 9/11 attacks. Unlike the Arab/Muslim patsies, and Arab/Muslim countries who have suffered catastrophic losses as the direct result of the attacks, these zionist/Israeli individuals, and their zionist entity, were pre-positioned to make out like bandits, and they did. I outlined some of this in my post on this page and elsewhere.
This brings us to our third important motive: the administration of a massive trauma to the public in Western countries as a means to impose the "us" and "them" paradigm that zionists so relentlessly peddle, with "us" being the civilized, rational, human Whites and "them" being the savage, crazy, inhuman Darkies, the two sides locked in an epic struggle between Good and Evil, against whom all means, no matter how cruel, even sadistic, are justified.
The "New Pearl Harbor" made it possible for an unprecedented escalation of the propaganda that has brainwashed even 'good' people in the West to become like "good" Israelis: to accept, even cheer, horrors beyond belief, crimes against humanity inflicted by their governments against helpless people that pose no danger to them. It has paved the way for the ongoing dismantling of human and civil rights legislation that took humanity centuries to develop. Moreover, the "New Pearl Harbor" has opened up opportunities for corruption, pillage and robbery on a scale never before seen, in broad daylight. And it has made dissent immeasurably more dangerous, even in the "freedom-loving countries of the West", all made possible by the War on Terror.
For each of these developments, there has been a remarkable correlation between those individuals and organizations who advocate and justify such terrible crimes, and the degree to which those individuals or organizations are committed to zionism and the state of Israel. It's kinda hard to miss, unless one is determined to miss it.
Finally, because this is way too long already, in addition to motive, suspects move higher or lower on the list depending on whether they also had the means to carry out the crime, and the opportunity. Is anyone seriously arguing that the Saudis [who had NO motive, unlike the powerful motive(s) of the Israelis], were better equipped and positioned to carry out the attacks than the Likudniks and their American agents?
Contrary to the official story, the 9/11 attacks were primarily a very high-tech crime comprising four levels:
1) the execution of the attacks themselves, which involved making two planes hit the WTC causing three buildings to collapse, one plane hit the Pentagon, hitting precisely where the Pentagon stored financial records about investigations into trillions of missing funds and other sensitive documents, etc.;
2) framing Arab/Muslim patsies, suppression of any investigations pre-9/11 that could have derailed the plan and confiscating, destroying and/or discrediting any information that exposes the many holes in the narrative (strong evidence of doubles, stolen passports, puzzling lack of any concrete evidence at all that any hijackers were even on the planes, the silly box-cutters story, records that show some of the patsies had received American military training -- these records could have been used to steal their identities; evidence that some were already dead at the time of the attacks and that others were alive after the attacks);
3) the deep infiltration and subversion of extremely sensitive and well-guarded security systems, at the airports, NORAD, WTC security and the Pentagon, all of which are accessible to Israeli firms;
4) reaping billions and billions of dollars, covering up the theft of trillions before that, not only via high-tech computer crimes and precisely-timed financial transactions, but through billions more in massive insurance pay-offs or "security contracts" related to the subsequent "War on Terror".
There's so much more, but I'll stop here.
Motive, means, opportunity. The idea that the Saudis collaborated with the Israelis to pull off this zionist fantasy bonanza that has caused them nothing but trouble, with no benefits at all, is laughable and not worthy of consideration. The belief that the Saudis carried out the attacks, whether alone or in collusion with the U.S. government, is a red herring useful for diverting those who see evidence of an inside job.
In contrast, mountains of well-documented evidence clearly point to certain specific individuals, linked to the Likud, Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon, who had ample motive, means and opportunity to plan and carry out the attacks, to ensure they were blamed on Arab/Muslims, to cover up or suppress any serious investigations, and to profit massively from them.
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fish5133 Site Admin
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Blackbear wrote
Quote: | In contrast, mountains of well-documented evidence clearly point to certain specific individuals, linked to the Likud, Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon, who had ample motive, means and opportunity to plan and carry out the attacks, to ensure they were blamed on Arab/Muslims, to cover up or suppress any serious investigations, and to profit massively from them. |
What means and what opportunity?
If we run with the "thermite or similar explosives view how did "they" plant them in the towers _________________ JO911B.
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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fish5133 wrote: |
If we run with the "thermite or similar explosives view how did "they" plant them in the towers |
That's the massively big question that is almost unanswerable. Did the whole edifices get painted with microthermite in the w/e shutdown prior to the event descibed by Scott Forbes
The mechanics question is what makes the demolition process almost indefensible, though it obviously happened
That's my last off topic comment on this thread, btw |
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TonyGosling Editor
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Do we know how the Commons meeting went? _________________ Currently working on a new website |
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Pikey Banned
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Quote: | The central message does not include any of the highly contentious unproven theories that you push. |
I dont push anything Tony but like anyone I do use my right to have an opinion and try to influence others to check out the evidence. BTW I do appreciate evidence based objective and scientific research.
As far I am aware the "thermite" collapse explanation for WTC 1,2 and 7 is an unproven theory and conspiracy theory as well as contentious in the eyes of the authorities.
As Andrew Johnson correctly states those pushing this theory are yet to test in the courts. Why ever not?
Quote: | You never contribute anything but unforgiving criticism of other truthers now do you Pikey? |
I take exception to your disrespectful comment which is untrue.
I have made financial donations to the campaign as past Treasurers should be able to confirm, as well as my limited time in supporting and promoting events at grassroots level and undertaking some high risk 911 truth activism projects.
I believe expending limited resources on politicians and the MSM is madness when this has been flogged to death by others in the past.
Scubie wrote:
Quote: | Do we know how the Commons meeting went? |
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