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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Museum finds astronomer Galileo's lost body parts! Reply with quote

Museum finds astronomer Galileo's lost body parts!

The parts were taken from Galileo when he was reburied in 1737

Two fingers and a tooth belonging to famed astronomer Galileo Galilei have been found more than 100 years after going missing, a museum in Italy says.


A collector bought the items, lost since 1905, at auction and gave them to Florence's History of Science Museum.

The museum said it had no doubt about the authenticity of the items.

Scientists cut the parts - plus another finger and a vertebrae - from Galileo's body in 1737, almost 100 years after he died.

Galileo, who lived from 1564 to 1642, was a hugely influential physicist and astronomer who helped develop the telescope.

He was branded a heretic by Italian authorities for supporting Copernicus's discovery that the Earth rotated around the Sun.

This is Galileo's middle finger, kept in a museum since its 1737 removal.

The body parts were removed from him 95 years after his death, when Church authorities decreed he could be reburied in consecrated ground.

One finger and the vertebrae have been conserved in museums since then, but the other parts were passed between collectors until they went missing in 1905.

The museum said that the discovery meant that everything taken from Galileo's body was now back "in responsible hands".

"On the basis of considerable historical documentation, there are no doubts about the authenticity of the items," it said in a statement.

The items will go on display at the museum in 2010, once renovation work is completed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8371521.stm


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How macabre!

Do you think the Roman Catholic Church, having confessed the error of its ways in forcing him to recant his view that the sun is the centre of the universe, should now canonise him and place his fingers and tooth as holy relics in significant cathedrals for the faithful to pray at and to confess their sins of arrogance, as the church has now done?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

There's a lot to be learnt from the case of Galileo such as:

1 Scientists and church people alike have a way of denouncing new scientific ideas when they are first expounded

2 The persecution and denunciation of Galileo sent out a message to scientists in Catholic lands, that serious examination of evidence which leads to theories which are contrary to received wisdom of the age, will face the full rigour of the inquisition. This stifled serious scientific inquiry in Catholic lands for the next 150 years, during which ground breaking scientists such as Newton could only flourish in Protestant northern Europe.

3 By the time Darwin came along with his theory of evolution the Catholic church had sufficiently learnt the error of its ways not to denounce and oppose him. That cause was taken up by Protestant Biblical literalists. I shall never forget the way that at the born-again Protestant school I attended until the age of 12, we were read bits of Darwinian theory by teachers and encouraged to jeer at salient points. Their message was that naughty old Darwin obvioulsy hadn't read his Bible or he would have known that his theory was bunkum.

4 In the 21st century we now face a similar "received wisdom of the age" that evidence which suggests we have been lied to about 9/11 and other things should be ignored.

5 Old Copperknickers, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus, a Catholic cleric and Galileo's predecessor to advance the heliocentric theory of the universe, craftily managed to get away with his "heresy" by dying the day his book on the theory was published.

6 Actually, according to modern astronomers, both Galileo and Copernicus were wrong, though the church with their theory that the earth was the centre of the universe was even more wrong. The sun is not the centre of the universe, merely the centre of the solar system.

All of which teaches me to be sceptical and open-minded about everything and to respect evidence. Einstein's maxim that dismissal without investigation is the highest form of ignorance rings true for me. It also reminds me that human beings love certainties and cling on to old ideas even to the extent of deliberately suppressing new ones.

Plus ca change...
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copernicus's theory was not exactly correct, but it was a conceptual advance.

Galileo's theory was basically correct and was also a conceptual advance.

The planets in teh solar system revolve around the collective center of gravity, which is beneath the suns surface, hence to say the earth revolves around the sun is literally and technically correct, no matter how much nitpicking the modern day enemies of Galileo do.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Help Galileo give NIST the finger! Reply with quote

Help Galileo give NIST the finger!

Facebook users: sign the petition to help Galileo give NIST the finger here.

http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/11/help-galileo-give-nist-finger.h tml

The recent discovery of Galileo's middle finger, chopped rudely from his corpse in 1737 and presumed lost since 1905, raises a thorny question: What should be done with the historic digit? Some say rebury it; some say put it in a museum. But I think that if Galileo were alive today, he would want to give it to the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) -- by flipping it to them in the form of the digitus impudicus.

NIST hasn't declared that the Sun revolves around the earth (not yet, anyway). But the NIST report on the Twin Towers, and the even more ludicrous one on World Trade Center Building 7, may be the most egregious examples of scientific fraud in history, dwarfing such cases as the phony stem cell research of a guy named Suk and his more than 15 accomplices. (If you think Suk's research sucks, wait till you see NIST's!)

Galileo was endlessly annoyed by opponents who fallaciously argued from authority, refusing even to look through his telescope, while denying the existence of the moons of Jupiter. Likewise, NIST's case rests on authority ("would our leaders deceive us? we're scientists, believe us!") and the refusal to look at any of the overwhelming evidence for controlled demolition, including molten metal, unexploded nanothermite in the WTC dust, explosive ejections of multi-ton steel beams, and much more.

One-upping Galileo's opponents, NIST even had the gall to claim that it had found no evidence for controlled demolition because -- it later admitted -- it didn't look for it! The only conceivable response to that argument is to give NIST Galileo's middle finger. Help give NIST the finger -- sign the petition!

http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/11/help-galileo-give-nist-finger.h tml
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1: Agreed


2: Galileo Galilei (15 February 1564[4] – 8 January 1642) As late as that and after 1492.


3: Darwin, who knows what he really did say. But as taught it really is bunkum. The Bible does say there is Evolution but not from one blob and at only one time. Just as the Bible says if organic life can happen at all then it can happen at different times and places here.


4: Agreed


5: Typical


6: According to the Prophet and book of Enoch more that 3000 years ago this was known and all explained how it works to help keep track of time. (taken out by the church)(People will only find this book in one place, the choice is theirs to see what it really says and relate it to all other Scripture)

And Stonehenge could not work as a calendar without this Knowledge.
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