David Rose Validated Poster
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 125 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:21 pm Post subject: UK University exposed in Climate Change data fraud |
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The email hack into UEA climate research department is a huge event and will cause many to re-think their attitudes to the global warming consensus established by the IPCC / UN and universities over the last 10 years or so. The UEA emails show top scientists engaging in fraud and deception when it comes to establishing a causal link between the emissions of CO2 by human agency and rising global temperature. The emails also show essentially unscientific behavior by scientists (ie: withholding data) and deliberately misrepresentation data.
The focus on carbon dioxide seems misplaced but the reality of environmental degradation and destruction remains. Even with the exposure of the whole Al Gore/Goldman Sachs/UN carbon tax scam, can we honestly look at the health of our planet and human beings on the planet and say that all is well and we can go on consuming what is left of the natural resources? The oceans are being polluted. Fish stocks decline. Glaciers melt. Water supplies reduce. Forests are destroyed. Eco-systems cease to function and species become extinct in the name of global capitalism and the consumer society.
Human beings and the environment are out of balance. The regime of the NWO is part of that imbalanced relationship as it wants human beings to live their lives in the consumerist illusion and not in any kind of real, truthful existence.
Surely we cannot let a scientific fraud stop us searching for a way to live in balance with the planet and the bio-sphere? There are not infinite resources for us to consume and industrial production produces pollution that threatens the systems of life itself. To deny this is surely self and collective delusion?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/emergency-viral-climategate-fraud-exposes- dirty-tricks-agenda-for-global-government.html
Emergency Viral: ClimateGate Fraud Exposes Dirty Tricks Agenda For Global Government
Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet.com
Monday, November 23, 2009
Globalist minion Al Gore and the United Nations climate change shysters led by Phil Jones are in trouble. Last week hackers uncovered a pile of email and documents revealing what many of us already knew — the climate change agenda is based not only on easily debunked junk science, but outright lies and deception.
In the wake of the damning revelations exposed by these anonymous hackers, the climate change snake oil salesmen Gore and his complaisant entourage of now discredited scientists are in full retreat. Even the corporate media — guilty of peddling the fabrication of man-made climate change for years with the best propaganda money can buy — are desperately scrambling to put the best spin possible on the emerging travesty.
Alex Jones examines the startling revelations of the CRU files and spells out what it means for the global elite who have planned to use the ruse to impose crippling carbon taxes and put the finishing touches on their global totalitarian super-state and its accompanying control and slave grid.
Infowars and Prison Planet are now feverishly going through the documents and will post the result in the hours and days ahead. In the meantime, here are a few quotes from the perpetrators:
The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate.
Kevin Trenberth <trenbert@ucar.edu>
I seem to be getting an email a week from skeptics saying where’s the warming gone. I know the warming is on the decadal scale, but it would be nice to wear their smug grins away.
Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
In any case, if the sulfate hypothesis is right, then your prediction of warming might end up being wrong. I think we have been too readily explaining the slow changes over past decade as a result of variability–that explanation is wearing thin. I would just suggest, as a backup to your prediction, that you also do some checking on the sulfate issue, just so you might have a quantified explanation in case the prediction is wrong. Otherwise, the Skeptics will be all over us–the world is really cooling, the models are no good, etc. And all this just as the US is about ready to get serious on the issue.
Mike MacCracken <mmaccrac@comcast.net>
Ironically, the E1-IMAGE scenario runs, although much cooler in the long term of course, are considerably warmer than A1B-AR4 for several decades! Also – relevant to your statement – A1B-AR4 runs show potential for a distinct lack of warming in the early 21st C, which I’m sure skeptics would love to see replicated in the real world… (See the attached plot for illustration but please don’t circulate this any further as these are results in progress, not yet shared with other ENSEMBLES partners let alone published).
Tim Johns <tim.johns@metoffice.gov.uk>
Your final sentence though about improvements in reviewing and traceability is a bit of a hostage to fortune. The skeptics will try to hang on to something, but I don’t want to give them something clearly tangible.
Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
Looks pretty good to me. Only one issue. In our discussion of possible participants in Bern, I think (someone correct me if I’m wrong) we concluded that the last two on the list (w/ question marks) would be unwise choices because they are likely to cause conflict than to contribute to concensus [sic] and progress.
Christoph Kull <christoph.kull@pages.unibe.ch>
Mike, I agree very much with the above sentiment. My concern was motivated by the possibility of expressing an impression of more concensus than might actually exist . I suppose the earlier talk implying that we should not ‘muddy the waters’ by including contradictory evidence worried me. IPCC is supposed to represent concensus but also areas of uncertainty in the evidence. Of course where there are good reasons for the differences in series (such as different seasonal responses or geographic bias) it is equally important not to overstress the discrepancies or suggest contradiction where it does not exist.
Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk>
The key thing is making sure the series are vertically aligned in a reasonable way. I had been using the entire 20th century, but in the case of Keith’s, we need to align the first half of the 20th century w/ the corresponding mean values of the other series, due to the late 20th century decline. So, if we show Keith’s series in this plot, we have to comment that “something else” is responsible for the discrepancies in this case. Otherwise, the skeptics have an field day casting doubt on our ability to understand the factors that influence these estimates and, thus, can undermine faith in the paleoestimates.
Michael E. Mann <mann@multiproxy.evsc.virginia.edu> |
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