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James Madison Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: Chief 9/11 Commission lawyer - Government Lied |
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9/11 Commission Counsel: Government Agreed to Lie About 9/11
New book from man tasked by government to help investigate attacks unveils how “official story is almost entirely untrue”
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
The senior counsel to the 9/11 Commission - John Farmer - says that the government agreed not to tell the truth about 9/11, echoing the assertions of fellow 9/11 Commission members who concluded that the Pentagon were engaged in deliberate deception about their response to the attack.
Farmer served as Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (officially known as the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States), and is also a former New Jersey Attorney General.
Farmer’s book about his experiences working for the Commission is entitled The Ground Truth: The Story Behind America’s Defense on 9/11, and is set to be released in September.
The book unveils how “the public had been seriously misled about what occurred during the morning of the attacks,” and Farmer himself states that “at some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened.”
Only the very naive would dispute that an agreement not to tell the truth is an agreement to lie. Farmer’s contention is that the government agreed to create a phony official version of events to cover-up the real story behind 9/11.
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http://www.prisonplanet.com/911-commission-counsel-government-agreed-t o-lie-about-911.html |
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James Madison Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: In a related topic: |
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In a related topic:
The real story of Columbine
Much of what the public has been told about the 1999 shootings is wrong.
10 years later, the real story behind Columbine
By Greg Toppo, USA TODAY
They weren't goths or loners.
The two teenagers who killed 13 people and themselves at suburban Denver's Columbine High School 10 years ago next week weren't in the "Trenchcoat Mafia," disaffected videogamers who wore cowboy dusters. The killings ignited a national debate over bullying, but the record now shows Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold hadn't been bullied — in fact, they had bragged in diaries about picking on freshmen and "fags."
Their rampage put schools on alert for "enemies lists" made by troubled students, but the enemies on their list had graduated from Columbine a year earlier. Contrary to early reports, Harris and Klebold weren't on antidepressant medication and didn't target jocks, blacks or Christians, police now say, citing the killers' journals and witness accounts. That story about a student being shot in the head after she said she believed in God? Never happened, the FBI says now.
A decade after Harris and Klebold made Columbine a synonym for rage, new information — including several books that analyze the tragedy through diaries, e-mails, appointment books, videotape, police affidavits and interviews with witnesses, friends and survivors — indicate that much of what the public has been told about the shootings is wrong.
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-04-13-columbine-myths_N.htm?s e=yahoorefer |
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TonyGosling Editor
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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As a glass half empty kinda guy this sounds to good to be true. If so its excellent stuff . keep praying for more big stuff to come out. Lets hope for some whistleblowing leaks to emerge. _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12 |
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Thermate911 Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Why has Farmer chosen to publish now? He had ample opportunity when Kean & Hamilton spoke out (www.patriotsquestion911.com) in 'Without Precedent'.
There's far more to this than meets the eye - my gut feeling (FWIW) is 'controlled exposure' as an arm-twister for Netanyahu to 'get with the [Fascist] program'. Farmer is no angel...check his relationship to Zelikow, DHS & Chrissie Tod Whitman, and the Cheney Energy Group, for example.
As a side issue, the wriggling going on over at JREF on this would be hilarious if the subject matter were not so dire...They're even arguing about who posted first - what a wunch.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=140141 _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
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redadare Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thermate911 wrote: | Why has Farmer chosen to publish now? He had ample opportunity when Kean & Hamilton spoke out (www.patriotsquestion911.com) in 'Without Precedent'.
There's far more to this than meets the eye - my gut feeling (FWIW) is 'controlled exposure' as an arm-twister for Netanyahu to 'get with the [Fascist] program'. Farmer is no angel...check his relationship to Zelikow, DHS & Chrissie Tod Whitman, and the Cheney Energy Group, for example.
As a side issue, the wriggling going on over at JREF on this would be hilarious if the subject matter were not so dire...They're even arguing about who posted first - what a wunch.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=140141 |
If one takes it at face value, he must surely be guilty of conspiracy. He sat on the commission, listened to the evidence (such as it was) presented, knows it was lies, but went ahead with the 9/11 Commission report saying nothing about the lies. At face value, he seems to me to be admitting to conspiracy.
I agree with Thermate, 'there is more to this than meets the eye'. _________________ In the end, it's not the words of your enemies you will remember, but the silence of your friends. Martin Luther King |
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Thermate911 Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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TonyGosling wrote: | This guy is becoming a whistleblower and you're taking potshots at him.
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As suggested, Tony, check his connections... The relevent insider term would probably be 'limited hang-out' or maybe even that delicious semiotic 'plausible deniability'; my bet is for State-sponsored revisionist whitewash.
I'm not holding my breath on this one. _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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John J. Farmer Jr. Appointed Dean of Rutgers School of Law-Newark
http://news.rutgers.edu/medrel/news-releases/2009/04/john-j-farmer-jr- app-20090416
Quote: | In the 23 years since completing his law degree at Georgetown University, Farmer has had a high profile career in government and in legal practice. As attorney general for the State of New Jersey from 1999-2002, Farmer supervised more than 600 attorneys and 8,000 employees in 10 divisions, and managed an annual budget of approximately $1 billion.
Among his noteworthy accomplishments as attorney general, he argued school funding and criminal justice matters before the New Jersey Supreme Court and the Third Circuit Court of Appeals; moved forward with reform of the New Jersey State Police, from eliminating racial profiling to increasing diversity in recruitment and promotion; created the Office of Inspector General to investigate allegations of official impropriety and/or corruption; and served as the first chairman of the New Jersey Domestic Preparedness Task Force, leading the coordination of New Jersey’s law enforcement and victim/witness response to the terror attacks on September ll, 2001.
From 2003-2004 Farmer served as senior counsel and team leader in New York City and Washington, D.C. for the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. In that position he supervised and conducted the investigations of the nation’s preparedness for and immediate response to the 9/11 attacks.
In 2005-2007 he became a partner of the law firm of K & L Gates in Newark, New Jersey, and in 2007 became a founding partner of the law firm Arseneault, Whipple, Farmer, Fassett and Azzarello in Chatham, New Jersey. He has been given the highest peer-review rating by Martindale-Hubbell and has been rated a New Jersey Superlawyer, one of New York Magazine’s Top Lawyers in the New York area, and one of the Best Lawyers in America. |
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Let's read the book, then come to a conclusion. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: Farmers book |
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has anyone read Farmers book yet? if so can you put a review on here.
ta _________________ "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" Martin Luther king |
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Comment by David Aaronovitch:
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No one from the FAA told the military that American 77 — eventually headed for the Pentagon — was a suspected hijack. At 9.21am Boston Centre Military reported that it had just been told that American 11 was “still in the air ... heading towards Washington”. American 11 had hit the WTC half an hour earlier.
Farmer concludes that the Administration’s version of events, of bad luck, near misses yet clear decision making, was a fantasy. In truth, “the military officers charged with leading the air defence mission did not receive notice from the FAA of any of the four hijacked flights in time to enable them to respond to the threat before the planes crashed”. Although, says Farmer, national leaders “honestly believed their actions in those critical moments made a difference; the records of the day say otherwise”.
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Thermate911 Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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From 911blogger comment:-
Appearing October 4 2009 on the Pacifica program "Background Briefing," Farmer defendedthe official 911myth chapter and verse at the urging of interviewer and official story apologist Ian Masters.
http://archive.kpfk.org/parchive/mp3/kpfk_091004_110030bbriefing.MP3
Beginning at 2:12:47 into the 3-hour program, Masters invites Farmer to "lay to rest Building 7." Farmer obliges by stating that the destruction of Building 7 was "not a demolition," but the result of a "large stockpile of emergency fuel" in that building that ignited.
Follow up here:-
http://www.911blogger.com/node/21603 _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:12 am Post subject: |
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David Ray Griffin reviews John Farmer's book "The Ground Truth"
http://www.amazon.com/review/R744LFV6PFZ3E/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R744LF V6PFZ3E
Check yer infallibility status, Tony...? _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
"Timely Demise to All Oppressors - at their Convenience!" - 'Interesting Times', Terry Pratchett |
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