Fri26-Sun28Mar - HEATHROW - Alternative View 4

[ianrcrane]

The Alternative View 4 (AV4)

Pre-Election Special

Before the 'Facts'... there is always the 'theory'.

Shifting the Paradigm

Fri 26th/Sat 27th/Sun 28th March 2010

Thistle Hotel - London Heathrow

David Bellamy
Tales from a 'Fallen' Icon

Johnny Ball
Politicised Science - Brainwashing Our Young

Peter Taylor
Climate Change in an Age of Deception

F. William Engdahl (2 Presentations)
Seeds of Destruction
Totalitarian Democracy

Daniel Estulin (2 Presentations)
The Bilderbergers
The Shadow Masters - Real Global Terrorists

Scott Tips
Corporate Controlled 'Health'

Dr Manjir Samanta-Laughton
Punk Science - What's Really Going On with Planet Earth

Brian Gerrish
Political Ponerology - Confronting Evil - Turning the Tide

Deek Jackson
Making a Difference - The Landless Peasants Party

Evening Entertainment:

Music from Gareth Icke

Comedy with FKN Newz

Earlybird Tickets from £99

3 Night Accommodation Packages from £105

www.alternativeview.co.uk

[ianrcrane]

Robert Green - gagged by the Scottish Judiciary… but not be Silenced!

Sunday 28th March at The Alternative View 4

Exposing Paedophilia Rings within the Scottish Establishment.

As a result of discovering high-level fraud in the travel industry Robert Green became involved in other investigative work. In 2008 was asked to address a conference in Scotland regarding his investigations.

As a result of that presentation, Robert was asked by Stuart Usher, chairman and founder of SACL (Scotland Against Crooked Lawyers), if he would be prepared to assist two women living in England. One of these women was, Hollie Greig, a sufferer of Down’s syndrome who had to flee Scotland due to the systematic rape and abuse perpetrated on her and other children, by a gang containing members of influential organisations. These crimes were being ruthlessly and blatantly covered up by the Scottish establishment, with apparent connivance from the Scottish Police.

Having researched this truly horrific case and its wider implications, Robert Green decided that he would indeed help Hollie and her mother Anne.

Robert Green discusses his investigation into the Holly Grieg case but by necessity, has to take of account his bail conditions. Robert also discusses the latest developments following his arrest, exposing further crimes, the strict control of the Scottish media, the injustice of the Scottish National Party attempt to block his standing as a parliamentary candidate in Aberdeen South and the astonishing world-wide support for Hollie that has developed following his arrest.

In addition Robert will expose evidence of threats made against the media and the outrageous dismissal of a senior officer from the Down’s syndrome Association.

Truth cannot be suppressed!


Tickets available on the Door (Concessions available for Students & Unemployed)

[blackbear]

AV4 Premium Ticket
£169.00

AV4 Standard Ticket
£109.00

Sad.!

[911troof]

Money making scam?

I've been reliably informed that a lot of money was made on the first conference.

Maybe this event isn't so well attended and that's why we get this advert.

Is it still using gold, silver and bronze tickets? Where the gold elite have to stay in a specific hotel and get to dine with the guest speakers.

Don't get me wrong, it's an excellent idea to have a regular conference. AV4 has some great guests but it's hardly inclusive. There are many who work tirelessly in this movement who could never afford to go.

I'm sure that with the resources and contacts of the many thousands of people in this movement today we could swing a cheap or even free venue. It could be donations only with good vegan grub!

[TonyGosling]

Wel Mr 'Troof'. 'New kid' on the block and slinging mud about already. Criticising one of the only people who's organising 9/11 Truth inclusive events ... as a scammer.
If you could be bothered to look before you sling you'd know that single lecture and day tickets are considerably cheaper close to the event.
So most of your assertions of 'fact' below are just plain wrong.
In case you don't know it costs money to hire the best venues.
Or did that one pass you by?

[ianrcrane]

[911troof]

So my reliable informer may have been wrong.

I only suggested it may be a scam, denoted by the question mark after 'money making scam'.

It's certainly not 'inclusive' as many in the movement couldnt possibly afford to go, even at the reduced day/lecture rates. Many who have reduced their support for a system which continues to profit from genocide. A system which gets it's mandate from tax payers who live comfortably within the status quo. It's only when people take full responsibility for their actions and make a stand that anything will change.

If it's not making money for the organiser(s) then it's certainly making money for the venue. Why does it need to be one of the best venues? It's obviously not working if it's 'losing' money.

I'd have thought people would be trying to move away from reliance on supporting the fake money system.

I've been to several excellent conferences at fairly humble venues where the organisers make enough from donations to cover their costs.

[TonyGosling]

Okay, let's go over this all again for you.
You are suggesting a scam.
Which is pure mud slinging.
Exactly what one would expect from pro 9/11 lie con men in the run up to this event.
Followed by more drivel.
What 'troofer' can't afford twenty quid?

[911troof]

I don't really care if it's a scam or not.

It's not for me to judge. If people want to keep the wagon rolling with only three wheels then that's up to them. I'm getting off and sooner or later, even if 9/11, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. had never happened, it's going to crash.

The sooner more people get off the daily grind treadmill the less damage it will do. Like a rabbit stuck in the head lights, it knows something is wrong yet doesn't know which way to run.

Are you suggesting that the current globalist system is sustainable? And I mean sustainable in the true permaculture sense of the word, not that of the faux environmental bureaucracy.

For the record, I know plenty of hardened truthers who couldn't afford £20.
Maybe £20-30 for the whole weekend, not for one lecture.

PS. Tony, Ian and anyone else who's listening, I love you unconditionally, nothing can change that. And I know that's the only truth.

[TonyGosling]

Of course not.

[911troof]

Good, well at least we agree on something and probably a lot more besides.

I've been hanging around at the fringe of the system to help clear a path for those that wish to follow. I feel blessed that I've had the luxury of being able to step in and out of my comfort zone. At times it has seemed hopeless with even those awakening unable to grasp the magnitude of the challenges ahead.

When I occasionally dip my head back into the 'news' even I'm shocked at the pace of it all. Eg. home education is illegal in Germany, Spain and Sweden and there are moves to require home-schoolers and tutors to register in the UK.

Does this mean that if a UK home-schooler were to move to one of these countries that they would be unable to continue their lifestyle choice?

With prince cameron about to take over it's time that people took more responsibility for their own lives and stood up for what they believe in. A freeman/common law perspective is almost essential. The master asks the questions and the servant answers. This is amazingly empowering when dealing with any official. Just don't answer their silly questions. There's no lawful obligation to comply. Just keep asking questions that they won't be able to answer. Eg. Official: Can I take your details? [Or] Are you mr/mrs ....? Human: Who are you? What is your role and authority? Do you have proof of claim that I need such a thing? Is there any lawful obligation on me to have such a thing?

You can even do deals with them. Eg. If I am to provide you with the service that you require, then I require some remuneration, how does £x sound to you? If I ask any tradesman for a particular service then they will likely ask me to provide a fee, would you agree? Some require provision of certain paperwork, do you have such paperwork?

If it ever gets to court, once you get in there with your inalienable rights intact (see 'The Anti-Terrorist-Standing In Court'), asking the judge 'Sir, do you have an oath of office?' will often see them leave the court. If that happens then it's likely that he's impersonating a judge and you should ask the bailiff or police to arrest him.

This really works, I've tried parts of it and seen other parts used. It can be quite daunting, you need a strong will, good notes and some moral support is extremely useful. It's vitally important to remain calm, polite and reasonable, even under extreme pressure. You want the judge to be the one who loses it. The more people that do this for victimless crimes the easier it'll get.

Again, projecting unconditional love on all those you encounter, whatever they may do to you, will normally make it an easier ride.

[Disco_Destroyer]

[satya]

http://www.avfour.co.uk/

Anyone ever been to one of their meets of seen their dvds?
Thinking about buying the av boxsets

[Daniel Elliott]

I was double booked for AV4 but would love to see any DVD's if anyone is lending them out.

[Hagbard Celine]

It was a great conference. I saw a few of you there. It was nice to see you.