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F11killerbeing
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 Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:45 pm Post subject: What happened to the 9/11 pilots |
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How did the terrorists on September 11 deal with the airplane pilots once they had made their way to the cockpit? Did they force them to the rear of the planes, because I think that was reported on at least one aircraft?
And if they forced them back or held them as hostages, why didn't the pilots report the hijackings? It's just a 4-dial number or something?  It's strange, if you think about it |
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scienceplease 2
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: What happened to the 9/11 pilots |
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| F11killerbeing wrote: | How did the terrorists on September 11 deal with the airplane pilots once they had made their way to the cockpit? Did they force them to the rear of the planes, because I think that was reported on at least one aircraft?
And if they forced them back or held them as hostages, why didn't the pilots report the hijackings? It's just a 4-dial number or something? It's strange, if you think about it |
The takeover over of all four aircraft without any of pilots sending out an alert or changing the transponder code to 7500 (to say "hijack") is totally bizarre rather than just strange.
Even if the first hijack was a complete surprise and multiple hijackings are extremely rare. After the second hijack then all aircraft must have been warned and yet the third and fourth aircraft were also mysteriously taken over. All four hijacks all instantly disabled the aircraft transponders - you would have thought the hijackers would have taken some time to get familiar with the aircraft controls - they'd never flown an airliner before - but no.
Strangely enough - if the aircraft were being monitored by say, AWACS, then switching off the transponders would be exactly the thing to do in order to be highlighted on the AWACS display (which are designed to spot aircraft with no transponder signals...)
Must run... happy posting
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An easy one for the NPTers !
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Operation Northwoods suggested using un manned Drone airliners painted in the correct livery , shoot them down or blow them up and blame it on Cuba, stage mock funerals , use worlds media to report the matter.
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Lone Gunman scenario. take over real planes by remote control and perhaps at same time disable transponder codes
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hijackings were reported but those in control didnt want fighter jets in the air too soon
or as one official version says it all got lost in the fog of war
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F11killerbeing
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| Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Also found it strange that on Flight 93, they thought about bringing back a pilot to get him to do something. |
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scienceplease 2
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| F11killerbeing wrote: | | Also found it strange that on Flight 93, they thought about bringing back a pilot to get him to do something. |
Not too sure what you mean. Flight 93 has a huge mythology associated with it - I thought on the day of the disaster that it was pure Hollywood - and that's what it has turned out to be (in every sense) - can you reference your source? |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:33 am Post subject: Re: What happened to the 9/11 pilots |
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| scienceplease 2 wrote: | | ...if the aircraft were being monitored by say, AWACS, then switching off the transponders would be exactly the thing to do in order to be highlighted on the AWACS display (which are designed to spot aircraft with no transponder signals...) |
Concerning AWACS - these are flying radar - these aircraft can provide a separate radar picture to the rest of FAA and NORAD. Display features include being able to switch off all "Known Friendly" aircraft and concentrate on "Possible Hostile" craft. Therefore by switching off the transponder the aircraft become indivisible to the FAA but show up like a beacon on the AWACS. Neat trick, huh?
This would be particularly useful if the aircraft were being remote controlled...
Incidentally just after the Pentagon crash an E4B flew overhead. An E4B is an airborne command center that receives data from AWACS. Training flights for AWACS on 9/11 have been confirmed but not from official sources. The flight crew in the AWACS may not even have been aware of their role in collecting the hijack aircraft data...
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=18443
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I've just noticed that diagrams showing the relationship between AWACS and E4B aircraft have been removed from Google search. |
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Noted my Awacs flyover a few days after pointing my cloudbuster up in 2002
There was some very heavy rain and then an AWACS plane flew over
Sorry no photograph
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